what does it take for Byakugan to surpass sharingan???????

[Kakooli]

both eyes have their own unique powers which shud be respekted imo

byakugan powers: see thru walls!!!
Sharingan powers: immortality, precog, mastery of genjutsu, absolute defense, cheat death no jutsu, etc.....

 

[lndra]

It would probably need a A LOT Of ass pull because the Sharingan is heavy in ass pull powers too

 

[Umari Senju]

It would probably need a A LOT Of ass pull because the Sharingan is heavy in ass pull powers too

Lol omg this. Sharigan is just straight broken and has been. You’d need nothing short of this to have Byakugan match the Sharingan....and I do see this this coming sooner or later.

 

[lndra]

Lol omg this. Sharigan is just straight broken and has been. You’d need nothing short of this to have Byakugan match the Sharingan....and I do see this this coming sooner or later.

I'm saying. The Sharingan can:

copy ninjutsu and taijutsu
see through and counter genjutsu
can also use genjutsu
track movements before they happen

... and I'm not getting started on ass pulls from MS sharingna. we would be here all day

byakugan can:

see 360 vision
see tenketsu points
see through objects

.......that's all

 

[Solarmoth]

I'm saying. The Sharingan can:

copy ninjutsu and taijutsu
see through and counter genjutsu
can also use genjutsu
track movements before they happen

... and I'm not getting started on ass pulls from MS sharingna. we would be here all day

byakugan can:

see 360 vision
see tenketsu points
see through objects

.......that's all

Destroying chakra is OP, though. Some hyuga fans claimed Kaguya used gf the generic version of hyuga taijutsu. That's hilarious.

Another op factor of byakugan is it has chakra heightening and chakra lowering powers by manipulating the pressure points. Just looking at the eye power, byakugan is near the tower compared to sharingan. Theres absolutely zero asspull in sharingan powers. Maybe in MS but even that can be explained.

 

[Umari Senju]

I'm saying. The Sharingan can:

copy ninjutsu and taijutsu
see through and counter genjutsu
can also use genjutsu
track movements before they happen

... and I'm not getting started on ass pulls from MS sharingna. we would be here all day

byakugan can:

see 360 vision
see tenketsu points
see through objects

.......that's all

It’s a shame so much time went into developming the Sharingan at the detriment of any other doujutsu or technique. Writer’s biased I guess. I mean it got x10 more development than the main protagonists’s actual clan itself which is so very wrong.

I get the Uchiha we’re the enemy to beat and thus needed some level of detailed development to make it important but it took precedent and everything else seemed way too unbalanced in the long long run.

Had Kishi and his editors given some more development to said doujutsu like the Byakugan (seeing as how Hinata’s very lineage played a role in the whole thing) it may not have seemed so asspullish.

 

[Made in Heaven]

LB's confused if we go by her logic Hinata could see chakra points but couldn't see her points being shut down by Neji

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Show me a scan Hinata needs training to increase her Byakugan insight.

Proof is Neji's max range went from 50 m to 800 m in the time skip. Same applies to Hinata.

Your logic so flawed, do you know what the sharingan abilities are?

Yep.

1T = Genjutus, copying, precognition

2T = Enhanced preocgnition

3T = Enhanced precognition

MS = New powers

EMS = No stamina loss/eye strain, enhances MS powers.

Havent we already seen the progression of sharingan power increase from 1t-3t and then onto MS. Users chakra becomes more powerful, movements become more fluid, increase precognition. But now I need a manga scan to prove that sharingan genjutsu becomes more powerful at each stage. Jesus christ how dense are you.

Yep because not once was it said or shown that Genjutsu resistance is enhanced by these Sharingan evolutions.

 

[salamander uchiha]

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Proof is Neji's max range went from 50 m to 800 m in the time skip. Same applies to Hinata.



Yep.

1T = Genjutus, copying, precognition

2T = Enhanced preocgnition

3T = Enhanced precognition

MS = New powers

EMS = No stamina loss/eye strain, enhances MS powers.



Yep because not once was it said or shown that Genjutsu resistance is enhanced by these Sharingan evolutions.

Quoting a post partially doesn't prove anything you've just shown proof of what I said and not negated anything. It seems you haven't lost your selective quoting ability. And secondly you've made up powers for the sharingan or are mispresenting them.

 

[Solarmoth]

Byakugan and sharingan are all-seeing eyes. I think the dispute is whether they're more versatile. Is it the Byakugan? I think not. The only thing Byakugan has over the Sharingan is the X-ray and genjutsu insight. You really gotta've some screws loose to claim sharingan >>> byakugan overall. Can copy all jutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu. Without exception but takes the skill and experience of the eyes user in consideration.

Kakashi claimed he can copy Rasengan and A-rank techniques. The DB backs this up by claiming sharingan can copy chakra molding patterns of the enemy user and copy his/her jutsu.

But if by chance both a hyuga and uchiha encounter a genjutsu opponent, the hyuga clan member'd stand more of a chance because of the superior insight to see through genjutsu. Plus it can see through Chakra which the sharingan cant. Sharingan only sees the colour of chakra. Theyve thier pros and cons but overall versatility is obviously granted by the sharingan.

 

[Mori Jin]

Random plot powerups. Author wanking it for 700+ chapters.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Byakugan and sharingan are all-seeing eyes. I think the dispute is whether they're more versatile. Is it the Byakugan? I think not. The only thing Byakugan has over the Sharingan is the X-ray and genjutsu insight. You really gotta've some screws loose to claim sharingan >>> byakugan overall. Can copy all jutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu, taijutsu. Without exception but takes the skill and experience of the eyes user in consideration.

Kakashi claimed he can copy Rasengan and A-rank techniques. The DB backs this up by claiming sharingan can copy chakra molding patterns of the enemy user and copy his/her jutsu.

But if by chance both a hyuga and uchiha encounter a genjutsu opponent, the hyuga clan member'd stand more of a chance because of the superior insight to see through genjutsu. Plus it can see through Chakra which the sharingan cant. Sharingan only sees the colour of chakra. Theyve thier pros and cons but overall versatility is obviously granted by the sharingan.

Sasuke had both X-ray vison and genjutsu insight

 

[HENI]

Juubi chakra

 

[davidou]

If you put one byakugan and one sharingan on a table, there will be no winner.

A master of the byakugan can fodderize a master of the sharingan, deal with it, it is a manga fact.

 

[Rovalez monstra]

If you put one byakugan and one sharingan on a table, there will be no winner.

A master of the byakugan can fodderize a master of the sharingan, deal with it, it is a manga fact.

Keep dreaming. One sharingan spits on the Hyuga clan

 

[lndra]

Destroying chakra is OP, though. Some hyuga fans claimed Kaguya used gf the generic version of hyuga taijutsu. That's hilarious.

Another op factor of byakugan is it has chakra heightening and chakra lowering powers by manipulating the pressure points. Just looking at the eye power, byakugan is near the tower compared to sharingan. Theres absolutely zero asspull in sharingan powers. Maybe in MS but even that can be explained.

Hyuuga Clan can't destory chakra like Kaguya, it's different

"Zero asspull Sharingan powers"

Welp.Sharingan can do anything and everything, the definition of asspull is too easy.

I'd love for someone to explain how Izanami and Izanagi aren't ass pull.

 

[Glad Of War]

Hyuuga Clan can't destory chakra like Kaguya, it's different

"Zero asspull Sharingan powers"

Welp.Sharingan can do anything and everything, the definition of asspull is too easy.

I'd love for someone to explain how Izanami and Izanagi aren't ass pull.

Izanagi dates back to Hagoromo. And Izanami is related to Izanagi in regards to mythology, so there was always a possibility Izanagi had a counterpart jutsu.

 

[lndra]

Izanagi dates back to Hagoromo. And Izanami is related to Izanagi in regards to mythology, so there was always a possibility Izanagi had a counterpart.

When did they state Izanagi goes back to Hagromo's time, and why include the Otsutski Clan when majority agree that they are ass pull too lol?

I don't really think adding mythology makes up for bad writing tbh. Sharingan powers have no restrictions lmao

 

[salamander uchiha]

When did they state Izanagi goes back to Hagromo's time, and why include the Otsutski Clan when majority agree that they are ass pull too lol?

I don't really think adding mythology makes up for bad writing tbh. Sharingan powers have no restrictions lmao

It works on the concept of yin yang release and Obito made reference to the power being based off of the powers of the sage of 6 paths. When he fought Konan she referred to it as Nagato's or a rinnegan power(from memory). There's no ass pull with it and it has consequences of loss of dojutsu. So for an Uchiha a max of 2 uses at best before they become blind.

Ps. Hogaromo isn't an ass pull.

 

[Glad Of War]

When did they state Izanagi goes back to Hagromo's time, and why include the Otsutski Clan when majority agree that they are ass pull too lol?

I don't really think adding mythology makes up for bad writing tbh. Sharingan powers have no restrictions lmao

Hagoromo was the first person to use Izanagi as stated by Obito. I didn't include the Otsutsuki clan.

The inclusion of mythology justified why Izanami was always going to be added as a counterpart to Izanagi. Furthermore, the Sharingan does have usage restrictions and elemental restrictions, the latter example being that it cannot copy Kekkai-Genkai.

 

[lndra]

How many alts do people need? Holy shit.

It works on the concept of yin yang release and Obito made reference to the power being based off of the powers of the sage of 6 paths. When he fought Konan she referred to it as Nagato's or a rinnegan power(from memory). There's no ass pull with it and it has consequences of loss of dojutsu. So for an Uchiha a max of 2 uses at best before they become blind.

> it's not asspull because "consequences", yet ignoring tje fact Kishimoto made it on the spot to TnJ Kabuto w/o TnJ.

Izanami was straight up ass pull, otherwise Itachi could have used it on Sasuke, instead of prepping Kotoamatsukami. But it wasn't a thing at that point in time. It was litetally setuo exactly the way Itachi needed to save Kabuto, for that very instance. And never used again.

I'm willing to be a lot less harsh on Izanagi, but that does not necessarily mean that it isn't as retarded as the former.

Almost ALL of the abilities used by the Sharingan have no consistent basis.

> Sasuke used Genjutsu with his Sharingan, only after the timeskip

- Sarada can use it easy (mind you this isn't about tomoes either)

> Obito can jump 2 tomoes of development and unlock MS in a few short hours

- Sasuke went through much worse and only unlocked a 1 tomoe Sharingan :lol

No consistency

> Sharingan literally gets new powers every other Arc

It can copy movements
It can copy jutsu
It can cast genjutsu
It can counter Genjutsu

^Basis

MS Sharingan usually have unique powers, this is okay to an extent.

Did I tell you that deapite having unique powers, you get a chakra avatar? Because that was known... until it became convenient.

> Did anyone mention Izanagi/Izanami until the very last moment until they were required for the plot, despite years of Sharinga exploration?

> Obito not being able to use Kamui while via Juubi Jinchuriki, but Madara can.

> Madara being able to produce Susano'o without any freaking eyes

I mean the shit is either not consistent, gets a new asspull power like recently when Sarada said she can see weaknesses via Sharingan now, or the logic changes per person..