what does it take for Byakugan to surpass sharingan???????
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Mangekyo Sharingan isn't the same as Sharingan, unless Tenseigan counts as a Byakugan, which it doesn't. Byakugan is above 3T, and depending on what two MS powers the user has, Byakugan could easily be above MS as well. For example, an MS user with Tsukyomi and Amaterasu would prove futile against a Byakugan user thanks to their eyes to counter the former and chakra defenses and ability to absorb and destroy chakra against the latter, and Shin's MS power is a joke for a Hyuga in general.Sharingan feats :
copy jutsu , precog , Izanagi , Izanami , genjutsu , MS abilities(which includes 2 unique abilities + Susanoo) .
Byakugan feats :
X-Ray Vision , 360 Vision , precog (???)
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Rinnegan feats :
copy jutsu , 5 Natures , precog , anti visual genjutsu , 1 super unique jutsu (Ameno for Sasuke , Limbo for Madara) , travel through dimensions , Chibaque Tensei , Shinra Tensei , Rinne Tensei , Human Path , Ashura Path , Animal Path , eyes being linked, etc ...
Tenseigan feats :
Charkra mode , summoning , getting one's chakra by touching , truth seeking orbs , (Byakugan feats ???)
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RinneSharingan feats : cast IT , Sharingan feats , Rinnegan feats , one super unique ability (Kaguya could change dimensions) , Creating a new worldlmao
Jougan feats :
See through other dimensions , see evil chakra .
Byakugans feats, whether you agree or not, also include the Gentle Fist, as Gentle Fist techniques are a KKG tied to the Byakugan, hence why no non-Byakugan users use Gentle Fist, even someone like Madara who's Rennigan can see the Chakra points.
Rennigan can not do either of the bolded you claim it can. At the same time, Rennigan, like MS, varies form user to user, so equating it all as one eye makes no sense. Just as Sasuke's Tomoe Rennigan and Momoshiki's Red Rennigan can not use the 6 Paths unlike Madara's Purple Rennigan while Limbo, Ameno, and Chakra Edible Creation are all exclusive to the 3 Rennigan varients we have seen.
Again, RenniSharingan can not do any of those. And even with that eye, Kaguya's strongest attack is a Byakugan ability.
And of course you have the usual fanfiction-loving people making a joke of themselves when they praise Sziaee's use of alternative facts.
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Saradas genjutsu is so weak compared to the 3 tomor sharingan power your argument is moot.Try something better than the lame genjutsu argument
Should I remind you what happened in the Mirai episode? So much for the Sharingan :erm:
Doesn't seem like the Tenseigan can counter Itachi low diffs
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Can I get a scan of it being said 2T and 3T increase Genjutsu resistance potency?Saradas genjutsu is so weak compared to the 3 tomor sharingan power your argument is moot.
Doesn't seem like the Tenseigan can counter Itachi low diffs
The feats speak for Themselves. Sarada genjutsu is not on par with fully matured sharingan users like hebi Sasuke, Itachi, Madara and obito.
Her genjutsu couldn't even knock out a genin and your arguing that her genjutsu resistance is on par with Itachi. Lmao Hyuuga stans never change.
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That's not proof the Sharingan's Genjutsu resistance ITSELF increases with Tomoes being added, but that the user's Genjutsu resistance itself is increasing. Much like how a Byakugan user increasing their eyesight doesn't mean that the Byakugan ITSELF is granting that growth.
The only confirmed fact is that 2t and 3t enhance precognition, not Genjutsu resistance.
What a load of horse shit. Pretend to act oblviious to the fact Sarada is still a novice to the sharingan in that episode. It was completely apparent from what we witnessed in the last manga and this one that Sarada is still a noob in sharingan genjutsu. You can't have weak genjutsu and then expect strong genjutsu restiance coming from the same eyes.
Stop pretending like you dont have a bit of common sense.
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This thread isn't about the clans, but the eyes. As usual, you Sharingan fans resort to using this to save face.
Since this thread is about the eyes, Tenseigan beats EMS in this feat. Moon > Mountain.
So can Jougan, but that isn't Byakugan and Rennigan isn't Sharingan.
Itachi's hypberbole's mean nothing. E-rank techniques can beat Totsuka Blade and Amaterasu anyways.
Tell that to Ao and his Byakugan.
KA had two moments and one was countered by Byakugan and the other was done on purpose. You also fail to understand that KA issues one command, and one command only, and does not strictly control the user. Do you know what proves this? Itachi's Crow. That crow cast KA on Itachi, yet the even when the crow died, KA was still in affect, which means KA can only grant a command, like how Itachi commanded himself to "protect Konoha" and not absolute mind control.
At the same time, Itachi defied the order to "protect Konoha" when he A) left Anko for dead on the ground after defeating Kabuto and B) was okay with Sasuke doing whatever he wanted with Konoha, saying himself that "No matter what you do from now on, I will always love you". Meaning even then KA mind control isn't even absolute.
Again, Jougan ca already use S/T powers, but MS isn't Sharingan, just as Jougan isn't Byakugan.
Salad has shown skill in Genjutsu when Sasuke couldn't do it until part 2, we get confirmation that academy kids learn how to counter genjutsu, but you're still making excuses over 1T getting owned by Mirai's genjutsu.
I'm still waiting to see where Tomoe additions increases Genjutus resistance. And no, the Sharigan itself being stronger isn't the same thing. Adult Sasuke's 3T has better resistance to genjutsu than his 3T when he was 12. Same logic applies here.
Genjutsu resistance of Sharingan is increased by skill and training, like Kakashi's copying being superior to Salad's or Sasuke's or how Hinata has gradually increased her Byakugan eyesight or how Naruto has increased his efficienvy with Sage Mode, now I ask you to show me where the Tomoes are creditted with enhancing Genjutsu resistance.
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Show me a scan Hinata needs training to increase her Byakugan insight. Your logic so flawed, do you know what the sharingan abilities are? Havent we already seen the progression of sharingan power increase from 1t-3t and then onto MS. Users chakra becomes more powerful, movements become more fluid, increase precognition. But now I need a manga scan to prove that sharingan genjutsu becomes more powerful at each stage. Jesus christ how dense are you.
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Ass pulls for days.... jk it wouldn’t take much, the only issue is giving it useful abilities that aren’t already taken like precog, although that’s pretty minor and makes sense in the context of a dojutsu; it’s still something established as an important ability of the sharingan. I don’t think it would take much, I would just rather see them do it with all new abilities, not rehashed or slightly diff abilities already used, thats my opinion on it anyhow
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LB's confused if we go by her logic Hinata could see chakra points but couldn't see her points being shut down by Neji
It took Neji making her aware of it before she could even tell what had happened to her
but all Byakugan are at the same level right?
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But she could see his chakra points , clearly too.LB's confused if we go by her logic Hinata could see chakra points but couldn't see her points being shut down by Neji
It took Neji making her aware of it before she could even tell what had happened to her
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Hinata wouldn't be able to see Neji closing her own points , as she wasn't looking at/in herself but instead focused on Neji along with the fact that his attacks were too fast for her to even see which is why Kakashi made the extra notation of Neji's feat in the lower left panel of this page.
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Kakashi is basically saying that regardless of Byakugan/Sharingan , to be able percieve and hit chakra points so accurately mid-combat is no common feat. So no way would Hinata's eyes catch/see Neji's attacks because they were just too fast for her to see.