Powerup needed to beat Indra?

[HENI]

No one knows what went down with Ashura and Indra and what powers they used. So nice fanfic on that one.

Madara had the his brothers eyes and the Kyuubi, then later onwards stole Hashirama's chakra to get Rinnegan and then became the Jinchuuriki for the Juubi. That's 2 outside power sources against Hashirama. Sage Mode is something you can learn.

Sasuke has had curse mark, Itachi's eyes, sage chakra, Rinnegan, Bijuu cloak, Bijuus as outside power source. Naruto had Bijuu chakra and RSM. That's 6 power sources for Sasuke to Naruto's 2.

But of course being a biased uchiha fanboy wouldn't let actually see who relied/used outside power sources the most.

Sasuke is getting power from his own body. Naruto has a monster inside of him telling him how to fight

 

[HENI]

Naruto relied on kyuubi chakra, six path senjutsu, all the tailed beasts chakra, TSB while all Sasuke got just one freaking rinnegan, 8.5 bijuu chakra and had zero killing intent as he was making naruto go all out by taunting him with words like "You cant kill me with that level of power"..., "are you finally prepared to kill me..." etc etc. These words, Sasuke used to taunt naruto into using his full power, like it's said to save someone so powerful, go with the intent to kill, like what kakashi said in the bell test mission. Sasuke made naruto go all out, no excuses, since otherwise Sasuke could've killed him easily in the start where naruto was holding back. Sasuke is far faster than naruto by feats and speed hype so there's no way naruto can survive a killing intent Sasuke.

You're right. Sasuke could have killed Naruto from the start. Heck, he could have killed Naruto during the talk with Hagoromo and the kage

 

[HENI]

No he didn't, he had Juubi chakra dormant within him and awakened through hard training., a.k.a by learning how to use Sage Mode. RSM is his natural version of SM.

Hagoromo clearly said Ashura didn't inherit any power. He had to entrust him with power

 

[salamander uchiha]

Hagoromo clearly said Ashura didn't inherit any power. He had to entrust him with power

And he says that while giving Sasuke and Naruto a power up yet people still deny Ashura got a power up.

 

[sayian]

Indra is ass cheeks.

 

[Exaar]

Obvious bait but i'll bite

Madara only had EMS. Hashirama needed to learn SM.

Madara needed his brother to get EMS and still needed the kyuubi and still lost.

Sasuke only had MS. Naruto needed Kurama.

Naruto said he only needed kurama because he sensed Indra inside of him, This was explained when naruto was talking to the sage. Sm naruto > Blind MS sasuke

Sasuke only had Rinnegan. Naruto needed Bijuu RSM.

Sasuke rinnegan comes from Indra's chakra mixing with Ashura's (hashirama's) chakra which he got from Kabuto
Rinnegan sasuke has EMS which he needed his brothers eyes for.
Oh and sasuke needed 9 Bijuu at VOTE 2, Still lost.

 

[nk07ki30]

Extreme logic no human can obtain.

 

[chaos control]

It seems like these Body people Ashura, Hashirama and Naruto needed massive power ups to deal with the eye people Indra, Madara and Sasuke.

Indra only has MS. Ashura needed Primal RSM

Madara only had EMS. Hashirama needed to learn SM.

Sasuke only had MS. Naruto needed Kurama.

Sasuke only had Rinnegan. Naruto needed Bijuu RSM.

It seems like the people with the eyes have very little power levels but still can fight toe to toe with people who have massive colossal power levels.

It's kind of like me using spending one bitcoin against 18 people with $1,000 each

So biased.

1. EMS itself is an outside power up since you have to transplant someone else's eyes to get it. Meanwhile, the gathering of senjutsu is simply a learned technique. Data books even list it as a jutsu.
Also, Madara actually tracked down Kurama and brought him to the VOTE fight. Therefore, you've got it backwards. When it comes to Hashirama vs Madara, Madara brought two massive outside powerups (Izuna's eyes and Kurama) to the fight, while Hashirama brought none.

2. You are flat out lying when you say Sasuke only had MS or Sasuke only had rinnegan. Sasuke had EMS, rinnegan and 8.5 bijuus. Now let's see exactly how many massive outside powerups that entails.

Itachi's eyes
Hagoromo's chakara (which was what led to Sasuke awakening 6T rinnegan)
Hashirama's cells/chakara (which led to Sasuke meeting Hagoromo in the first place)
8.5 bijuus.

The only battle on this list that you were right about was Indra vs Asura


Honestly, some of you hard core Uchiha fans are some of the pettiest, most delusional and most deceitful people on this forum (and this is coming from a Madara fan who agrees with Madara's ideology and wishes we could have the infinite tsukuyomi in real life).

Madara and Sasuke are not featless fodder! You people have tons of actual feats from them that you can draw from! Why then, do you people have to make up crap, distort the truth, or deny/omit details just to undermine anyone related to Naruto in some way?

If I were a hard core Uchiha fan, I would bring up stuff such as how Sasuke has won most of his battles with Naruto (which can be backed up by actual manga scans of that spar in the academy, of VOTE 1, and of that meeting in Orochimaru's lair), instead of making up crap!

I would bring up how Sasuke's and Madara's solutions for peace are more realistic and closer to real life than Naruto's idealism.

The list goes on and on. Sasuke and the other Uchihas have feats!

You don't need to lie about crap!

 

[HENI]

So biased.

1. EMS itself is an outside power up since you have to transplant someone else's eyes to get it. Meanwhile, the gathering of senjutsu is simply a learned technique. Data books even list it as a jutsu.
Also, Madara actually tracked down Kurama and brought him to the VOTE fight. Therefore, you've got it backwards. When it comes to Hashirama vs Madara, Madara brought two massive outside powerups (Izuna's eyes and Kurama) to the fight, while Hashirama brought none.

2. You are flat out lying when you say Sasuke only had MS or Sasuke only had rinnegan. Sasuke had EMS, rinnegan and 8.5 bijuus. Now let's see exactly how many massive outside powerups that entails.

Itachi's eyes
Hagoromo's chakara (which was what led to Sasuke awakening 6T rinnegan)
Hashirama's cells/chakara (which led to Sasuke meeting Hagoromo in the first place)
8.5 bijuus.

The only battle on this list that you were right about was Indra vs Asura


Honestly, some of you hard core Uchiha fans are some of the pettiest, most delusional and most deceitful people on this forum (and this is coming from a Madara fan who agrees with Madara's ideology and wishes we could have the infinite tsukuyomi in real life).

Madara and Sasuke are not featless fodder! You people have tons of actual feats from them that you can draw from! Why then, do you people have to make up crap, distort the truth, or deny/omit details just to undermine anyone related to Naruto in some way?

If I were a hard core Uchiha fan, I would bring up stuff such as how Sasuke has won most of his battles with Naruto (which can be backed up by actual manga scans of that spar in the academy, of VOTE 1, and of that meeting in Orochimaru's lair), instead of making up crap!

I would bring up how Sasuke's and Madara's solutions for peace are more realistic and closer to real life than Naruto's idealism.

The list goes on and on. Sasuke and the other Uchihas have feats!

You don't need to lie about crap!

So if I implant someone's eyes so I can see again, it's outside power? So that means I'm perpetually getting energy from the person. Wow, wireless power. Amazing

 

[Exaar]

So if I implant someone's eyes so I can see again, it's outside power? So that means I'm perpetually getting energy from the person. Wow, wireless power. Amazing

Yep it's a wireless powerup alright

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[Styles]

The bias in this thread is sad.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Sasuke had powers but he was stronger than naruto as confirmed from kishi's statement.
Naruto = one arm Sasuke.

 

[UndyingFlame]

bait thread and people still agrue this...

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

People forget naruto had all the tailed beasts chakra in him.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

People forget naruto had all the tailed beasts chakra in him.

Chakra from all the beasts, Kurama as jinchuriki , SM and even Hagoromo power up RSM.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

While Sasuke had only 8.5 bijuu lmfao. As far as I know, no matter you've the live beasts in you or not, you only use thier chakra right? Of course naruto had the advantage there, considering Naruto had full kurama chakra and other beasts including understanding of all things power and TSB. Sasuke got a mere rinnegan and yet people are nitpicking over that lmfao. It's hilarious. People think Naruto was the one nerfed. Sasuke went out of his way and convinced naruto of going all out.

 

[Brady]

massive power ups?
Sasuke stole all Bijuu with killing intent and still failed to beat a Naruto who wasn't even going all out.

The same Naruto with instant comprehension of all of his abilities, going against a Sasuke who wasn't allowed to use the entirety of his Rinnegan? Give me a damned break. If Sasuke wasn't nerfed and wanted Naruto dead, he'd be dead.

 

[chaos control]

So if I implant someone's eyes so I can see again, it's outside power? So that means I'm perpetually getting energy from the person. Wow, wireless power. Amazing

EMS doesn't just make it so that you can see again. It allows you to use mangekyou techniques without the previously established consequences. It is a massive power up that literally makes the difference between barely surviving against Ay by using a susanoo ribcage (and suffering cellular pain from even using said ribcage), and soloing the 5 kage with a perfect susanoo without breaking a sweat.

Furthermore, yes it is an outside power. Benefits aside, they are still someone else's eyes.

The concept of outside power isn't just about getting unlimited chakara. Power can come in other forms too.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

While Sasuke had only 8.5 bijuu lmfao. As far as I know, no matter you've the live beasts in you or not, you only use thier chakra right? Of course naruto had the advantage there, considering Naruto had full kurama chakra and other beasts including understanding of all things power and TSB. Sasuke got a mere rinnegan and yet people are nitpicking over that lmfao. It's hilarious. People think Naruto was the one nerfed. Sasuke went out of his way and convinced naruto of going all out.

Not only he got chakra from Kurama, but the mode itself powers up the user.Strength,speed,power,even new abillity such as TBB.
Naruto lost abilities to use others tailed beast powers like different various of rasengan usage like magnet realease and other variants , but he got chakra from them and automaticaly increased his chakra.
Sasuke only got Sharinnegan and thats about it, and he didnt even had 8.5 beast power but just used a fraction of their chakra enough to make Susano'o.

 

[Megax Rocker7]

When people respond to a biased thread with biased posts.:lol