Powerup needed to beat Indra?

[HENI]

It seems like these Body people Ashura, Hashirama and Naruto needed massive power ups to deal with the eye people Indra, Madara and Sasuke.

Indra only has MS. Ashura needed Primal RSM

Madara only had EMS. Hashirama needed to learn SM.

Sasuke only had MS. Naruto needed Kurama.

Sasuke only had Rinnegan. Naruto needed Bijuu RSM.

It seems like the people with the eyes have very little power levels but still can fight toe to toe with people who have massive colossal power levels.

It's kind of like me using spending one bitcoin against 18 people with $1,000 each

 

[A$AP Wap]

massive power ups?
Sasuke stole all Bijuu with killing intent and still failed to beat a Naruto who wasn't even going all out.

 

[Styles]

Only with Madara and Hashirama did Madara need Kurama(was his summoning but still).

Ashura needed RSM or whatever that avatar was to fight Indra.

And Naruto said he needed Kurama to fight Sauce.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

It seems like these Body people Ashura, Hashirama and Naruto needed massive power ups to deal with the eye people Indra, Madara and Sasuke.

Indra only has MS. Ashura needed Primal RSM

Madara only had EMS. Hashirama needed to learn SM.

Sasuke only had MS. Naruto needed Kurama.

Sasuke only had Rinnegan. Naruto needed Bijuu RSM.

It seems like the people with the eyes have very little power levels but still can fight toe to toe with people who have massive colossal power levels.

It's kind of like me using spending one bitcoin against 18 people with $1,000 each

Propaganda.

Thread ruined.

What a painted picture, we have here.

 

[lndra]

IMo both reincarnations probably minus the original, used power ups and other sources of power to fight their "equals"

 

[HENI]

IMo both reincarnations probably minus the original, used power ups and other sources of power to fight their "equals"

Ashura received rikudo safe mode

 

[iConquer]

Indra should be the one who needs power ups. Imagine, centuries and centuries he didn't even won a single match, even by accident?

 

[HENI]

Indra should be the one who needs power ups. Imagine, centuries and centuries he didn't even won a single match, even by accident?

I'm certain he killed Ashura and Ashura killed him

 

[lndra]

Ashura received rikudo safe mode

I mean bar the original two

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

This debate is old and has been discussed so many times...

 

[Styles]

Indra should be the one who needs power ups. Imagine, centuries and centuries he didn't even won a single match, even by accident?

Indra and Ashura killed each other.

Madara and Hashirama. Hashirama "won" but Madara used that fight to get his DNA and fake his death.

Sasuke vs Naruto VOTE 1. Sasuke won.

Sasuke vs Naruto VOTE 2 was a draw.

 

[Prince Badman]

Ummm why is SM or RSM for Ashura considered external power...these were their inherent techniques....its not like every other person can master Sage mode..........handful of people were actually able to do it....Madara used Kyubi against Hashi and still got his ass kicked....Sasuke on the face of it is alright but his cursed seal was SM augmentation of a kind...plus do you honestly think that just because it wasn't stated Orochi didn't augment Sasuke with experimental medications?????????

 

[salamander uchiha]

They always needed a significant power boost to counter the Indra power. What makes no sense is Tobirama suggested Sasuke was compatible with sage mode and why the uchiha didn't learn it. They'd low diff the senju with super amped up powers


People are being silly Kurama was more detrimental than beneficial to Madara, he had to summon it(cost chakra), maintain its summoning(constantly fuel it with chakra), keep it under genjutsu, use perfect susanoo and concentrate on Hashirama to counter him. After all of that let's not forget Madara also had an ulterior motive and disappearing was part of his plan.

 

[Nick01]

massive power ups?
Sasuke stole all Bijuu with killing intent and still failed to beat a Naruto who wasn't even going all out.

This.

Also Ashura matched Indra when his power bloomed.

Hashi > Madara.

Vote 1 : Sasuke was the one to walk away after Naruto pulled his attack and instead scratched his headband.(Proving Sasuke wrong on an earlier statement)
Vote 2 : Sasuke conceded.

 

[take it easy]

massive power ups?
Sasuke stole all Bijuu with killing intent and still failed to beat a Naruto who wasn't even going all out.

This. Funny that Sasuke fans always deny this.

 

[SenseiSama]

That's because Indra's Sharingan power comes directly from Kaguya, he wasn't some basic Uchiha smfh. He had Six Path chakra as well, and most importantly he was an unrivalled genius, by unrivalled I mean Itachi level, he was the first to learn how to weaponize chakra and he did it self-taught.

 

[SenseiSama]

Ashura received rikudo safe mode

No he didn't, he had Juubi chakra dormant within him and awakened through hard training., a.k.a by learning how to use Sage Mode. RSM is his natural version of SM.

 

[Mori Jin]

No one knows what went down with Ashura and Indra and what powers they used. So nice fanfic on that one.

Madara had the his brothers eyes and the Kyuubi, then later onwards stole Hashirama's chakra to get Rinnegan and then became the Jinchuuriki for the Juubi. That's 2 outside power sources against Hashirama. Sage Mode is something you can learn.

Sasuke has had curse mark, Itachi's eyes, sage chakra, Rinnegan, Bijuu cloak, Bijuus as outside power source. Naruto had Bijuu chakra and RSM. That's 6 power sources for Sasuke to Naruto's 2.

But of course being a biased uchiha fanboy wouldn't let actually see who relied/used outside power sources the most.

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

Naruto relied on kyuubi chakra, six path senjutsu, all the tailed beasts chakra, TSB while all Sasuke got just one freaking rinnegan, 8.5 bijuu chakra and had zero killing intent as he was making naruto go all out by taunting him with words like "You cant kill me with that level of power"..., "are you finally prepared to kill me..." etc etc. These words, Sasuke used to taunt naruto into using his full power, like it's said to save someone so powerful, go with the intent to kill, like what kakashi said in the bell test mission. Sasuke made naruto go all out, no excuses, since otherwise Sasuke could've killed him easily in the start where naruto was holding back. Sasuke is far faster than naruto by feats and speed hype so there's no way naruto can survive a killing intent Sasuke.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

massive power ups?
Sasuke stole all Bijuu with killing intent and still failed to beat a Naruto who wasn't even going all out.

Naruto alrdy had all the bijuus chakra, Kurama as a jinchuriki,SM + he got power ups from Hagoromo. RSM

Sasuke just got Rinnegan, and used the bijuus chakra into Susano'o to make Indra's arrow