1 Rinnegan SM Madara vs Healthy Nagato
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1 rinnegan SM madara. His gudodama cancels out preta path. Cancels out the orb of nagato. Or if the orb survives, madara makes a set of chibaku tensei and obliterates it. Madara wins. Wood element and six paths yin lightning storm obliterates preta path and every path which cannot absorb yin.
We have seen him level up while fighting all of the shinobi army. he can prob level up by taking Nagato's other eye or some other hax.
I think Madera was shown in a way that places him stronger then Nagato. when he was the one to obtain the rinnigan the natural way instead of having it implanted like Nagato did.
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Madara can't use pain techniques. The databook even says Asura path is a "hidden jutsu" instead of a rinnegan kekkei genkai jutsu. Madara nor Sasuke nor Any other rinnegan user has never shown the usage of the six paths except the seventh which is available to all rinnegan users.
Limbo would slaughter nagato's arsenal. Nagato can't sense it otherwise madara wouldnt be so surprised that Sasuke can see it with his unique rinnegan. Madara knows rinnegan can't see limbo, hence why he was surprised at Sasuke seeing it. Limbo hengoku is a wave of force which is invisible unlike the common belief that it was the limbo clones which slammed the tailed beasts. Limbo hengoku counters ST and BT. Hashirama's senjutsu gives him the ability to use danger sensing which with his speed enabled him to dodge tobirama's attack though it was not a fully powered one. Madara has struck Sasuke with sword which means he's equal to EMS Sasuke in reflex at least. Which immediately puts him above nagato in all levels of speed, since EMS Sasuke is faster than nagato who reacted to bee and cloaked bee but still the difference wouldnt be big in terms of reflex as bee at base is still equal to speed and reflex to A as seen when he intercepted a lariat of lightning A aimed at naruto. Wood element beats preta path, who can't absorb it since it's lifeforce not chakra. Fire style, black rods, speed, reflex(not by a big margin), wood element together beats nagato mid diff.
Limbo would slaughter nagato's arsenal. Nagato can't sense it otherwise madara wouldnt be so surprised that Sasuke can see it with his unique rinnegan. Madara knows rinnegan can't see limbo, hence why he was surprised at Sasuke seeing it. Limbo hengoku is a wave of force which is invisible unlike the common belief that it was the limbo clones which slammed the tailed beasts. Limbo hengoku counters ST and BT. Hashirama's senjutsu gives him the ability to use danger sensing which with his speed enabled him to dodge tobirama's attack though it was not a fully powered one. Madara has struck Sasuke with sword which means he's equal to EMS Sasuke in reflex at least. Which immediately puts him above nagato in all levels of speed, since EMS Sasuke is faster than nagato who reacted to bee and cloaked bee but still the difference wouldnt be big in terms of reflex as bee at base is still equal to speed and reflex to A as seen when he intercepted a lariat of lightning A aimed at naruto. Wood element beats preta path, who can't absorb it since it's lifeforce not chakra. Fire style, black rods, speed, reflex(not by a big margin), wood element together beats nagato mid diff.
Tendo wouldn't probably affect Limbo, since it exists in another dimension, and while Nagato can see it, he won't damage it due to lack of Six Paths Senjutsu Chakra needed to hurt it. Nagato was the better Rinnegan user, but Madara wins solely because of Limbo with extreme difficulty. Any other version of Madara gets destroyed.
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With only one Rinnegan he was shown to absorb chakra using preta and held sasuke in the air with limbo maybe?. Nevermind using susano'o without eyes when he first was resurrected, that was some major ass pull right there.
He stomps nagato with neg. There is nothing he can do that Madara doesn't know and cannot counter.
He stomps nagato with neg. There is nothing he can do that Madara doesn't know and cannot counter.
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That doesn’t matter. Madara is superior to Nagato in everything. From spiritual and physical energy to his mastery of visual powers. Not to mention that path techniques are rinnegan technique and are manifested because of rinnegan, which Madara awakened.
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Op: Madara because of limbo
Juubito couldn't phase it was never said he couldn't warp himself into the kamui dimension.
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Nagato can't see limbo. Why should madara be surprised that Sasuke with rinnegan can see limbo then? Hilarious. That surprise of madara itself proves only some one with "a relationship beyond blood" according to madara himself can see it. In this context, madara and sasuke being indra avatars. There's no way a normal rinnegan can see it. Lack of reading comprehension.
But madara can't use the six paths of pain which are jutsus only nagato and the six paths sage can use according to the data book and the six paths are realms which are accessed by the rinnegan user just like the limbo, just because nagato accessed it with his rinnegan do not mean madara can, the only realm madara accessed is limbo realm, where no one of this world should be capable of seeing the user's other wordly shadows. Stated by madara. no one emphasized here. Madara knew obito with Rinnegan. He saw Sasuke with rinnegan. Yet thought it was impossible for Sasuke to see it. Thus he came to the conclusion, "Sasuke has a relationship greater than blood" with him. This is fact. Chibaku tensei and rinne tensei are rinnegan techniques. The other jutsu are not rinnegan techniques. They are realms accessed by the rinnegan user, like ameno is a space time realm accessed by Sasuke, jigokudo is a realm accessed by Nagato. The ö in jigokudo and limbo, means realm like edö tensei or impure world resurection, ressurecting people from the other specific world.
So six paths are not rinnegan jutsu, rather different realms accessed by the rinnegan user, every user won't get the same realm to access like seen in every rinnegan user's case. Otherwise konan would not say "nagato's rinnegan is a JutsU, which means the other six realms are of it's own type and not a rinnegan granted jutsu; just realms accessed with rinnegan as a medium.
Madara wins the fight with wood release which preta can't absorb, limbo hengoku can't be absorbed, limbo can't be seen with a generic rinnegan, senjutsu gives reflexes which dodged point blank FTG though from a nerfed tobirama, speed and reaction on par with EMS Sasuke who is way above KCM and Killer Bee's reaction or equal to killer bee's cloaked mode reaction, so nagato definitely loses this despite his OP abilities. Shinra tensei is a technique which pushes stationary objects, madara can focus his feet with chakra or if he uses chou shinra tensei, then madara counters with limbo hengoku force, bansho tenin can be reacted to with his rinnegan which sees chakra build up or countered with his physical energy amped body because of hashirama's cells.
But madara can't use the six paths of pain which are jutsus only nagato and the six paths sage can use according to the data book and the six paths are realms which are accessed by the rinnegan user just like the limbo, just because nagato accessed it with his rinnegan do not mean madara can, the only realm madara accessed is limbo realm, where no one of this world should be capable of seeing the user's other wordly shadows. Stated by madara. no one emphasized here. Madara knew obito with Rinnegan. He saw Sasuke with rinnegan. Yet thought it was impossible for Sasuke to see it. Thus he came to the conclusion, "Sasuke has a relationship greater than blood" with him. This is fact. Chibaku tensei and rinne tensei are rinnegan techniques. The other jutsu are not rinnegan techniques. They are realms accessed by the rinnegan user, like ameno is a space time realm accessed by Sasuke, jigokudo is a realm accessed by Nagato. The ö in jigokudo and limbo, means realm like edö tensei or impure world resurection, ressurecting people from the other specific world.
So six paths are not rinnegan jutsu, rather different realms accessed by the rinnegan user, every user won't get the same realm to access like seen in every rinnegan user's case. Otherwise konan would not say "nagato's rinnegan is a JutsU, which means the other six realms are of it's own type and not a rinnegan granted jutsu; just realms accessed with rinnegan as a medium.
Madara wins the fight with wood release which preta can't absorb, limbo hengoku can't be absorbed, limbo can't be seen with a generic rinnegan, senjutsu gives reflexes which dodged point blank FTG though from a nerfed tobirama, speed and reaction on par with EMS Sasuke who is way above KCM and Killer Bee's reaction or equal to killer bee's cloaked mode reaction, so nagato definitely loses this despite his OP abilities. Shinra tensei is a technique which pushes stationary objects, madara can focus his feet with chakra or if he uses chou shinra tensei, then madara counters with limbo hengoku force, bansho tenin can be reacted to with his rinnegan which sees chakra build up or countered with his physical energy amped body because of hashirama's cells.
