SM naruto negging Hashi? WTF

[HashiraMadara]

Hashi looked at 100% kurama chakra + BM Minato + BSM Naruto and guessed that it's almost equal to his

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[Guardian of the Rain]

No need to make a thread about this. No one in their right mind actually believes that SM Naruto defeats Hashirama, let alone negs him.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

:wut: did you watch naruto: the last? naruto almost low diff'd toneri who's more powerful than sm hashirama and he barely used his powers. think about that for a second.

adult sm naruto > sm hashirama. :bdpf: y'all overrate hashirama too much.

 

[Jiren]

:wut: did you watch naruto: the last? naruto almost low diff'd toneri who's more powerful than sm hashirama and he barely used his powers. think about that for a second.

adult sm naruto > sm hashirama. :bdpf: y'all overrate hashirama too much.

Naruto didn't defeat Toneri without kuramas aid. Naruto won't have enough power to defeat Hashirama without it. You're underestimating HASHIRAMA.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Naruto didn't defeat Toneri without kuramas aid. Naruto won't have enough power to defeat Hashirama without it. You're underestimating HASHIRAMA.

*sigh* this is base naruto.

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adult naruto is just faster and stronger. this doesn't even need to be debated over. unless you can prove base hashirama could take on momoshiki for a second even with his sm?

 

[Jiren]

*sigh* this is base naruto.

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adult naruto is just faster and stronger. this doesn't even need to be debated over. unless you can prove base hashirama could take on momoshiki for a second even with his sm?

Naruto blocked 1 hit before getting kicked. NAruto needs Kurama for any high level opponent.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Naruto blocked 1 hit before getting kicked. NAruto needs Kurama for any high level opponent.

Momoshiki was VASTLY faster and stronger than JJ Obito who practically ripped SM Hashirama in half and BASE NARUTO REACTED TO HIM and even had a spare second to access his mode. and as seen in the pain fight Naruto's overall strength is supplemented by at leas two-fold when in sm. that alone puts him tiers above Hashirama in speed/strength.

the fight doesn't go further than a cqc battle in which hashirama terribly loses imo.

 

[Jiren]

Momoshiki was VASTLY faster and stronger than JJ Obito who practically ripped SM Hashirama in half and BASE NARUTO REACTED TO HIM and even had a spare second to access his mode. and as seen in the pain fight Naruto's overall strength is supplemented by at leas two-fold when in sm. that alone puts him tiers above Hashirama in speed/strength.

the fight doesn't go further than a cqc battle in which hashirama terribly loses imo.

I disagree. JJ Obito had the juubis chakra and rsm so he was vastly superior in speed to base naruto. Naruto blocked 1 hit but the outcome would have been the same if he didnt access Kuramas chakra. Hashirama did not use SM against Juubito but he still would have gotten owned either way.


Hashiramas has self healing, wide scale Mokuton and power that rivals Perfect Susanoo and the Kyuubi. SM Naruto doesn't have any of that.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

*sigh* this is base naruto.

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adult naruto is just faster and stronger. this doesn't even need to be debated over. unless you can prove base hashirama could take on momoshiki for a second even with his sm?

This could be true, but still Hashirama never got power up from Hagoromo like Naruto did

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On the other hand Naruto is also not be underestimated for someone who can make 1000 clones and rasengan just like in the movie

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[Jiren]

This could be true, but still Hashirama never got power up from Hagoromo like Naruto did

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On the other hand Naruto is also not be underestimated for someone who can make 1000 clones and rasengan just like in the movie

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Hashirama can contain Naruto's clones and Rasengan using his mokuton. Mokuton has already tanked Tailed Beast bombs and Perfect Susanoo. Landscape changing abilties. NAruto might have the sages power but Hashirama far outweighs Narutos own power if he's holding back Kurama and RSM.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

I disagree. JJ Obito had the juubis chakra and rsm so he was vastly superior in speed to base naruto. Naruto blocked 1 hit but the outcome would have been the same if he didnt access Kuramas chakra. Hashirama did not use SM against Juubito.

He still openly admitted inferiority to him. even tobirama and hiruzen noted that. and that's irrelevant since that's not naruto after receiving rikudou chakra or even adult naruto for that matter.

He still REACTED and BLOCKED a hit from him, or are we just going to forget that? and wasn't sm hashirama outperformed by sm madara who's waaaay weaker than momoshiki?

i don't know why you're ignoring that scan since it already points towards BASE NARUTO being FASTER/STRONGER than war arc hashirama, even with sm.

 

[lImmortal Regis]

Hashirama can contain Naruto's clones and Rasengan using his mokuton. Mokuton has already tanked Tailed Beast bombs and Perfect Susanoo. Landscape changing abilties. NAruto might have the sages power but Hashirama far outweighs Narutos own power if he's holding back Kurama and RSM.

True , also dont forget that even Hashirama have SageMode, but its still unknown what kind of abilities it grants, while i think about it i just wonder what could Naruto do against someone like Madara who had Kurama and PS without Kurama's power. Hashirama did it alone with his own power.

 

[Edogawa]

Hashirama doesn't have more Chakra than Kurama or any Tailed Beast. Not even close. Not a single character has Chakra comparable to Tailed Beast outside of Kaguya's lineage. His Chakra is only equal to Naruto. But the premise of your thread is correct; Hashirama does shit on Naruto, but his Chakra is equal to Naruto's, not bigger than Kurama's.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Hashirama can contain Naruto's clones and Rasengan using his mokuton. Mokuton has already tanked Tailed Beast bombs and Perfect Susanoo. Landscape changing abilties. NAruto might have the sages power but Hashirama far outweighs Narutos own power if he's holding back Kurama and RSM.

No he can't. His Mokuton is slow af and naruto's rsn's cuts through it. and his fire-power doesn't help when the opponent is just faster and stronger. case in point: JJ obito. he can produce Spirit bombs with ease now lmao. hashirama's wood definitely isn't touching him, and he can just dodge it and walk over it lol.

also, you still haven't proved that sm hashirama could react to or block a hit from momoshiki.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Hashi looked at 100% kurama chakra + BM Minato + BSM Naruto and guessed that it's almost equal to his

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Don't be silly bro he was looking at Kurama's(yang) chakra mixed with Narutos. That in no way means that Kurama was fully charged at 50%, having said that Hashirama low diffs SM Naruto.

 

[Jiren]

He still openly admitted inferiority to him. even tobirama and hiruzen noted that. and that's irrelevant since that's not naruto after receiving rikudou chakra or even adult naruto for that matter.

He still REACTED and BLOCKED a hit from him, or are we just going to forget that? and wasn't sm hashirama outperformed by sm madara who's waaaay weaker than momoshiki?

i don't know why you're ignoring that scan since it already points towards BASE NARUTO being FASTER/STRONGER than war arc hashirama, even with sm.

Dude it don't mean shit. Jubito was using the gudodama so how was Hashirama going to react to that or block it. Juubito is faster than base naruto that's a proven fact

 

[take it easy]

This was 17 years old Naruto before sage power up and adult Hashirama. See the main difference ?

 

[123fire]

what kind of faanfic is this

 

[LeviAckerman]

Alive Madara beat Hashirmama. After gaining more power and becoming he 10 tailed host, Base Naruto was pushing him.
Adult Naruto or Sasuke in base > Hashirma.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

:lol minato’s chakra is no where to be sensed because he never gave his chakra to the alliance. All he said was that he sensed naruto’s chakra with the kyubi mixed in it. He was talking about the chakra that naruto gave to the alliance was comparable to his chakra. Hashirama beats Sm naruto but Bm naruto and above beats him.