[VS] Adult Hinata vs Kakashi

[Belserion]

Restriction: Kakashi has no Sharingan.

Range: 20m

Who wins?

 

[MightGai]

Kakashi. Even without sharingan he still has a shitload of jutsus that Hinata can't defend against.

 

[Mori Jin]

Strictly Taijutsu? Hinata hands down.

Everything goes? Kakashi Mid to High difficulty though IMO.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Hinata reflexes/taijutsu are on par with Naruto's/Sasuke's as shown in The Last. Don't know about Kakashi's base reflexes/taijutsu.

Her Six Paths Chakra would allow her to utilize Bijuu-sized Air Palms to negate whatever Lightening Kakashi has in use. And I know some people will deny this as valid even though she already combined her Six Paths Chakra with A-rank Twin Lion Fists :lol

Any Earth and Water techs can also be negated through this way, or destroyed by Gentle Fist depending on their nature.

Not to mention Hinata's Byakugan would allow her to see Kakashi's elemental abilities by reading his hand signs, his chakra flow, and simple precognition.

Neji vs Naruto should tell you that the Byakugan can't keep track of which is the original and which Is the clone.

Kakashi outsmarts her. But just let it move it to the Versus Section. I posted the thread.

Not the same case since Kakashi only makes one lightening clone at a time iirc. There's also the fact that Naruto made much, much more and was deliberate attempting to confuse Neji wth sheer neumbers, which Kakashi can't do with just one.

Kakashi outsmarting is as valid an argument as saying Shikamaru can outsmart her. Meaningless until shown otherwise.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Kakashi he also has 8 gates(from memory) access(can't say his upper limit with them) for thaijutsu. I don't see Hinata making it past replacement jutsu (e rank) to be honest

 

[Made in Heaven]

Kakashi he also has 8 gates(from memory) access(can't say his upper limit with them) for thaijutsu. I don't see Hinata making it past replacement jutsu (e rank) to be honest

Kakashi has 1 Gate.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Kakashi has 1 Gate.

Kakashi has used 1 gate or has 1 gate?

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Kakashi has 1 Gate.

Hinata reflexes/taijutsu are on par with Naruto's/Sasuke's as shown in The Last. Don't know about Kakashi's base reflexes/taijutsu.

Her Six Paths Chakra would allow her to utilize Bijuu-sized Air Palms to negate whatever Lightening Kakashi has in use. And I know some people will deny this as valid even though she already combined her Six Paths Chakra with A-rank Twin Lion Fists :lol

Any Earth and Water techs can also be negated through this way, or destroyed by Gentle Fist depending on their nature.

Not to mention Hinata's Byakugan would allow her to see Kakashi's elemental abilities by reading his hand signs, his chakra flow, and simple precognition.



Not the same case since Kakashi only makes one lightening clone at a time iirc. There's also the fact that Naruto made much, much more and was deliberate attempting to confuse Neji wth sheer neumbers, which Kakashi can't do with just one.

Kakashi outsmarting is as valid an argument as saying Shikamaru can outsmart her. Meaningless until shown otherwise.

This literally applies to most of what your claiming for Hinata. One has been considered a genius his entire run on the manga, and one has never been even called smart or tactical her entire run on the manga, but there’s no way kakashi could outsmart her right? I just wanna understand, your fine with hinatas only feat being punching and kicking a couple puppets, and using twin lion fist to not destroy the altar as enough to prove she can beat kakashi, but we need proof kakashi can outsmart her? And when the f ck have narutos reflexes EVER been close to sasukes in base when naruto constantly had to spam clones to stay in the fight? Like seriously dude

 

[salamander uchiha]

This literally applies to most of what your claiming for Hinata. One has been considered a genius his entire run on the manga, and one has never been even called smart or tactical her entire run on the manga, but there’s no way kakashi could outsmart her right? I just wanna understand, your fine with hinatas only feat being punching and kicking a couple puppets, and using twin lion fist to not destroy the altar as enough to prove she can beat kakashi, but we need proof kakashi can outsmart her?

Did you read the last post by LB "Her 6 Path chakra will allow her to use biuji sized air palms"

Featless chakra = biuji sized feats.

Hinata's Byakugan(since shes not Neji) having sharingan feats
OT: she won't make it past replacement jutsu (e rank)

 

[InfiniteMugen]

Did you read the last post by LB "Her 6 Path chakra will allow her to use biuji sized air palms"

Featless chakra = biuji sized feats.

Hinata's Byakugan(since shes not Neji) having sharingan feats
OT: she won't make it past replacement jutsu (e rank)

In all honesty if she has the chakra, it’s probably amped her jutsu a bit, but i don’t know about constant bijuu sized air palms. All this is kind of null tho when kakashi has already gone up against actual god tier opponents. He outsmarts her, kakashi would full well know he can’t fight a back and forth taijutsu match with a hyuga, but like I said in the earlier thread, he doesn’t have to

 

[Made in Heaven]

Kakashi has used 1 gate or has 1 gate?

He has only used 1 Gate.

This literally applies to most of what your claiming for Hinata. One has been considered a genius his entire run on the manga, and one has never been even called smart or tactical her entire run on the manga, but there’s no way kakashi could outsmart her right? I just wanna understand, your fine with hinatas only feat being punching and kicking a couple puppets, and using twin lion fist to not destroy the altar as enough to prove she can beat kakashi, but we need proof kakashi can outsmart her?

Well Hinata's score in the databook is 3.5 for intelligence, though of course, I tink we can ignore that since those scores are baseless.

Regardless, no matter how stupid you think Hinata is, saying Kakashi can win because "intelligence" means nothing until you can show feats of his intelligence being used to exploit/out smart Gentle Fist.

For example, saying Sakura can outsmart puppet users is a valid argument because we have seen her actually do this. Applying that same logic to Sakura VS a Kenjutsu user? Doesn't work.

Same applies to Kakashi here: Show me how he is going to exploit/trick/outsmart a Gentle Fist user with an all-seeing eye based on strategy/intelligence feats from him from the manga.

And when the f ck have narutos reflexes EVER been close to sasukes in base when naruto constantly had to spam clones to stay in the fight? Like seriously dude

lol when have Naruto's reflexes ever been close to Sasuke's in base?

Fam, forget base Naruto, even his CLONE ALONE intercepted Sasuke's Chidori, with his SHARINGAN ON MIND YOU.

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And the Last shows Hinata fighting the Black Puppet along with several White Puppets without her Byakugan, all the while the Black Puppet gave Naruto actual trouble in CQC.

So there you have it: Hinata's reflexes/taijutsu w/o Byakugan = Base Naruto's = Sharingan Sasuke's.

She's SSR for a reason

 

[MightGai]

He has only used 1 Gate.

And how many Bijuu sized air palms did she use?

 

[Made in Heaven]

And how many Bijuu sized air palms did she use?

1, in Chapter 616.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

He has only used 1 Gate.



Well Hinata's score in the databook is 3.5 for intelligence, though of course, I tink we can ignore that since those scores are baseless.

Regardless, no matter how stupid you think Hinata is, saying Kakashi can win because "intelligence" means nothing until you can show feats of his intelligence being used to exploit/out smart Gentle Fist.

For example, saying Sakura can outsmart puppet users is a valid argument because we have seen her actually do this. Applying that same logic to Sakura VS a Kenjutsu user? Doesn't work.

Same applies to Kakashi here: Show me how he is going to exploit/trick/outsmart a Gentle Fist user with an all-seeing eye.



lol when have Naruto's reflexes ever been close to Sasuke's in base?

Fam, forget base Naruto, even his CLONE ALONE intercepted Sasuke's Chidori, with his SHARINGAN ON MIND YOU.

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And the Last shows Hinata fighting the Black Puppet along with several White Puppets without her Byakugan, all the while the Black Puppet gave Naruto actual trouble in CQC.

So there you have it: Hinata's reflexes/taijutsu w/o Byakugan = Base Naruto's = Sharingan Sasuke's.

She's SSR for a reason

Use an full blown fight, not a scene when they’re exhausted and naruto still has to use clones, this has been a thing since pt 1, narutos Base taijutsu and reflexes are below sasukes, but sasukes is more linear, while narutos reflexes and sensing goes up greatly with sm, kcm/bsm, and rsm. They’ve shown this throughout the manga. And by your own logic, if we can’t say he outsmarts her cause he’s never fought a hyuga, how does she beat him if she’s never won an actual fight?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Use an full blown fight, not a scene when they’re exhausted

This doesn't matter since Naruto is more exhausted than Sasuke, as pointed out by Kurama. And I am comparing Hinata to Naruto, not to Sasuke. Not to mention the latter has his Sharingan on.

and naruto still has to use clones

this has been a thing since pt 1, narutos Base taijutsu and reflexes are below sasukes

And yet his clones are intercepting Chidoris to the face from Sharingan Sasuke not Base Sasuke. But yeah, base Naruto's reflexes aren't close to Sasuke's :lol

Can't believe we reach the point that people argue against Naruto = Sasuke just to demean Hinata. It's just like how people demean Hamura just because Hinata has his Chakra

And by your own logic, if we can’t say he outsmarts her cause he’s never fought a hyuga, how does she beat him if she’s never won an actual fight?

Actually, no, this is not the line of logic I am using. This line of logic is saying Kaguya can't win because she never won a fight.

Hinata has battle feats, which can be applied to any scenario. Intelligence feats are different from normal feats (durability, speed, taijutsu feats) as they vary depending on who the person is fighting (Shikamaru exploited Hidan, but there is no proof he can exploit, say, Orochimaru).

 

[MightGai]

1, in Chapter 616.

This?:

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That's bijuu sized? Something that clearly is barely two or three times Hinata's size? No sweetie, this is bijuu size:

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[InfiniteMugen]

This doesn't matter since Naruto is more exhausted than Sasuke, as pointed out by Kurama. And I am comparing Hinata to Naruto, not to Sasuke. Not to mention the latter has his Sharingan on.


And yet his clones are intercepting Chidoris to the face from Sharingan Sasuke not Base Sasuke. But yeah, base Naruto's reflexes aren't close to Sasuke's :lol

Can't believe we reach the point that people argue against Naruto = Sasuke just to demean Hinata. It's just like how people demean Hamura just because Hinata has his Chakra



Actually, no, this is not the line of logic I am using. This line of logic is saying Kaguya can't win because she never won a fight.

Hinata has battle feats, which can be applied to any scenario. Intelligence feats are different from normal feats (durability, speed, taijutsu feats) as they vary depending on who the person is fighting (Shikamaru exploited Hidan, but there is no proof he can exploit, say, Orochimaru).

Omg dude you are selective as all f ck when it comes to Hinata, YOUR the one that brought up naruto and sasuke in the first place
To use as a comparison, like holy f ck you have to be trolling, and if not, I’m sorry I bothered, I’m done think what you want, if 3 people in the world wanna believe Hinata can take out kakashi, cool. No ones demeaning Hamura and his chakra, some people would just rather see things done with it before making wild unproven theories on how much power it can give someone. And what battle feats? Being beaten in every actual fight against any actual shinobi she’s faced? Using an kyuubi amped up air palm? Bum rushing pain and losing? Fighting neji and losing? Fighting hanabi and losing? Literally all you got is a kyuubi air palm, and fighting some puppets who aren’t allowed to kill her ,touché, much battle feats compared to kakashi

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Kakashi shits, he was a jonin at 12, while Hinata can't quite make it beyond chunin.

 

[Made in Heaven]

This?:

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That's bijuu sized? Something that clearly is barely two or three times Hinata's size? No sweetie, this is bijuu size:

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Here's a comparison of the Juubi's palm (what Hinata hit) in comparison to Gyuki.

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So yes, Bijuu-sized Air Palm indeed.

 

[QuickNEasy]

Kakashi wins mid-high diff, if it's taijutsu only Hinata wins.