Is Himawari's Byakugan a Kekkei Mōra? Questions about Hima's eyes.

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Himawari's Kekkei Mora probably is stronger than Kaguya's. And it makes sense considering she the child of Naruto and Hinata who possess rikudo chakra.
 

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Himawari's Kekkei Mora probably is stronger than Kaguya's. And it makes sense considering she the child of Naruto and Hinata who possess rikudo chakra.

Pretty much this.
 

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So is anybody ready to define Kekkei Mora from manga or canon sources yet?

No one knows what KKM (Kekkei mora) is it was never explained. And this term comes from databook.

Kaguya ,Hagoromo have KKM dojutsus.

When JJ Madara gained Rinne Sharingan 2 jutsus he used were stated to be KKM in databook
 

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No one knows what KKM (Kekkei mora) is it was never explained. And this term comes from databook.

Kaguya ,Hagoromo have KKM dojutsus.

When JJ Madara gained Rinne Sharingan 2 jutsus he used were stated to be KKM in databook

We know what Kekkei Mora is and what it's users are connected to and it's likely origin. We dont know all the details of kekkei Mora. What I don't understand is why OP is claiming kekkei Mora for Hima's Byakugan when OP can't define or rationalise kekkei Mora. If OP could he'd know how stupid the claim is.
 
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We know what Kekkei Mora is and what it's users are connected to and it's likely origin. We dont know all the fetails of kekkei Mora. What I don't understand is why OP is claiming kekkei Mora when OP can't define or rationalise kekkei Mora. If OP could he'd know how stupid the claim is.

Maddy is only confirmed Uchiha who had KKM dojutsu :cool::cool: .
 

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Honestly, I'm guessing it's as simple as looking at the colour of the non-activated eyes. All Hyuga (Otsutsuki) have a lavender hue to their eyes when byakugan is not activated. Both Boruto and Hima have blue eyes, which I'm guessing contributes to the blue hue. We've never seen byakugan (or variants of it) from people with "normal" eyes, so it's very possible it's just as simple as whatever your normal eyes look like is what the byakugan will reflect. So lets say if they had green eyes, it would have a green hue. Black eyes it would be a grey hue. Red eyes and it would be a pink hue. Can it just be that simple as far as why the colour is different?

Now as far as her abilities and the way she awakened the byakugan.. I have no explanation. I don't know if it was due to a clever way to show she has it and was also used as a comedic relief.. or if it is foreshadowing some exceptionally strong eyes unlike any pure Hyuga has ever seen before?
 

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Honestly, I'm guessing it's as simple as looking at the colour of the non-activated eyes. All Hyuga (Otsutsuki) have a lavender hue to their eyes when byakugan is not activated. Both Boruto and Hima have blue eyes, which I'm guessing contributes to the blue hue. We've never seen byakugan (or variants of it) from people with "normal" eyes, so it's very possible it's just as simple as whatever your normal eyes look like is what the byakugan will reflect. So lets say if they had green eyes, it would have a green hue. Black eyes it would be a grey hue. Red eyes and it would be a pink hue. Can it just be that simple as far as why the colour is different?

Now as far as her abilities and the way she awakened the byakugan.. I have no explanation. I don't know if it was due to a clever way to show she has it and was also used as a comedic relief.. or if it is foreshadowing some exceptionally strong eyes unlike any pure Hyuga has ever seen before?

Don't forget Momoshiki's and Zetsu's orange Byakugan.
 

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again MR. Salt

Is Himawari's byakugan normal

can you look at how Neji and Hinata trained with theirs and how their eyes looked and say


Yup same thig.

You can't argue with me when even characters in the series implied that she was different.



Kaguya's KKM is unique comapred to everyone else in the Narutoverse. Hima's byakugan so far is unique compared to other byakugan's seen in the universe.


You cant try and say something else but it isn't a normal byakugan.


Hence why they sealed it away.

I think you are kind of missing their point. As of now it is Kekkei genkai. Does Himawari’s eye possess the capability of becoming Kekkei Mora?

Absolutely. Both mother and father possesses genes that ties directly into Kaguya’s lineage. And we know Kaguya’s Byakugan is Kekkei Mora.

But that doesn’t mean Himawari is or will be because the coloration is different. That could simply be a mutation from not being a full blood Hyuga...

......or you could be right and it could be signs of a developming Kekkei Mora. But as of now it is simply the Hyuga Kekkei genkai.
 

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We don't really know the classifications of a Kekkei Mora, and Himawari having a different hue of her Byakugan proves nothing. We're just speculating at this point. Uniqueness is very vague, because the Sharingan is unique but is still a Kekkei Genkai. All Kekkei Genkai are unique, and Kaguya's Byakugan showed no observable difference from a normal Byakugan besides databook classification.

I don't know why Hyuga wanks believe that the Byakugan can't be affected by Itachi's Tsukuyomi, when we know that only an Uchiha with the Sharingan can counter Tsukuyomi.

The fact is, we don't now anything. The majority of Hyuga-wank threads are merely speculation and conjecture.
 

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We don't really know the classifications of a Kekkei Mora, and Himawari having a different hue of her Byakugan proves nothing. We're just speculating at this point. Uniqueness is very vague, because the Sharingan is unique but is still a Kekkei Genkai. All Kekkei Genkai are unique, and Kaguya's Byakugan showed no observable difference from a normal Byakugan besides databook classification.

I don't know why Hyuga wanks believe that the Byakugan can't be affected by Itachi's Tsukuyomi, when we know that only an Uchiha with the Sharingan can counter Tsukuyomi.


The fact is, we don't now anything. The majority of Hyuga-wank threads are merely speculation and conjecture.

Reply to me if you're going to say something like this. :lol

Byakugan will be affected by Tsukyomi if caught, I'm not denying that. But closing eyes and seeing through the lids will prevent that, just like what Kabuto did.
 

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That's is true

Insanely false. You need to be specific, and even then, given the circumstances, a Hyuga would have ten times less a chance of suppressing a Tailed Beast than an Uchiha.

Kurama can easily recover from Himawari's attack in a fight, unlike being under a genjutsu. Sasuke when suppressing Kurama hardly suppressed any of Kurama's chakra, and his Sharingan was only a three tomoe, combine that with the fact that Sasuke doesn't have his Sharingan active most of the time and you're left with a very weak suppression.

However, we both know that if Sasuke entered Naruto's mindscape and placed Naruto and Kurama under a genjutsu with his Mangekyo Sharingan, that suppression would be ten times more reliable than that of a Byakugan's. Before you say "If he could have done it, he would have", you should acknowledge that this Manga is called NARUTO, and how the hell would Naruto become Hokage and bring "peace" if he were to lose the fight?

The "If he could have, he would have" logic is ridiculously fallacious and a better argument needs to be used if you want to discredit the possibility of a feat.
 

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Insanely false. You need to be specific, and even then, given the circumstances, a Hyuga would have ten times less a chance of suppressing a Tailed Beast than an Uchiha.

Himawari suppressed Kurama inside Naruto for 24 hrs. Sasuke? Not even 1 second.

Kurama can easily recover from Himawari's attack in a fight,
Yet he and Naruto were knocked out for 24 hrs.

unlike being under a genjutsu.

Scan Sasuke doing this to Kurama within Naruto?

Sasuke when suppressing Kurama hardly suppressed any of Kurama's chakra

Agree, Sasuke barely suppressed any of Kurama's leaking chakra, it was so tiny Naruto's eyes didn't even turn red. Concession accepted.

Meanwhile, Himawari suppressed 100% Kurama like her grandmother Kushina.

and his Sharingan was only a three tomoe, combine that with the fact that Sasuke doesn't have his Sharingan active most of the time and you're left with a very weak suppression.

Agree, Sasuke's suppresion feat is weak compared to Himawari's.

However, we both know that if Sasuke entered Naruto's mindscape and placed Naruto and Kurama under a genjutsu with his Mangekyo Sharingan, that suppression would be ten times more reliable than that of a Byakugan's. Before you say "If he could have done it, he would have", you should acknowledge that this Manga is called NARUTO, and how the hell would Naruto become Hokage and bring "peace" if he were to lose the fight?

The "If he could have, he would have" logic is ridiculously fallacious and a better argument needs to be used if you want to discredit the possibility of a feat.

Nope, garbage logic tbh sorry to say. Again, same as saying Hyugas can open 8th Gate. It may make sense, it may be possible, it may be realistic, but since the characters never did it in situations where they could have done it (Neji didn't do it when dying, Sasuke didn't do it VS Naruto), it means they can't.
 

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Himawari is perfect in every way that's why she solos
 
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Himawari is perfect in every way that's why she solos

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