What made pein ark so intense?

[L O S T]

I think it's agreable that Pein arc is one of the most intense and epic arks in the manga other than the Sasuke retrival arc and ‎Tenchi Bridge Reconnaissance Mission.

But my second question is why war arc didn't have serious moments and felt like a combo between DBZ & power rangers episode? I mean seriously? Was Kishi that high or did he lost his touch? Because i feel like there were two different writers when made comparison between pein and war arc.

This scene alone would negg any war arc moments in terms of seriousness.

[video=youtube_share;J-gUS8Q_iHU]https://youtu.be/J-gUS8Q_iHU[/video]
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Another question is that do you feel the antogonist for war arc had that godly aura as pein had? Or any rinnegan users for that instance.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Pein's powers are that intense

 

[SixPathsMike101]

I think it's agreable that Pein ark is one of the most intense and epic arks in the manga other than the Sasuke retrival ark and ‎Tenchi Bridge Reconnaissance Mission.

But my second question is why war ark didn't have serious moments and felt like a combo between DBZ & power rangers episode? I mean seriously? Was Kishi that high or did he lost his touch? Because i feel like there were two different writers when made comparison between pein and war ark.

This scene alone would negg any war ark moments in terms of seriousness?

[video=youtube_share;J-gUS8Q_iHU]https://youtu.be/J-gUS8Q_iHU[/video]
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Another question is that do you feel the antogonist for war ark had that godly aura as pein had? Or any rinnegan users for that instance.

The fact that it was the hidden leaf being ransacked and people dying, and the fact that Pein was thought by the fanbase to be the leader of Akatsuki at the time, and at the time, he was one of the strongest people if not the strongest we had ever seen

 

[L O S T]

Pein's powers are that intense

But Madara had more powerful chakra then pain tho? My question was the seriousness of that whole arc feel, Pein had a godly aura, plot was well constructed and good level of intense scenes. Why couldn't war arc continue with that?

The fact that it was the hidden leaf being ransacked and people dying, and the fact that Pein was thought by the fanbase to be the leader of Akatsuki at the time, and at the time, he was one of the strongest people if not the strongest we had ever seen

Exactly, the continuation should feel as intense or more than that since its a full scale war but i don't see good devolopment, corny situations and plainly ass pull powerups.

In my opinion, Madara lost his godly presence after the meteorite jutsu. Pein had a more intense presence when he pulled out Chibaku tensei:

[video=youtube_share;6zdlZHytkjQ]https://youtu.be/6zdlZHytkjQ[/video]​

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

But Madara had more powerful chakra then pain tho? My question was the seriousness of that whole arc feel, Pein had a godly aura, plot was well constructed and good level of intense scenes. Why couldn't war arc continue with that?

As edo tensei or Jyubi jinchuriki, but pain was fighting like a god.

He blew away a village with a raise of his hand, assimilated a planetoid from like 12 mountains, manipulated 6 undead bodies, took people's souls from their body while reading their mind, and resurrected the dead after he finished killing them.

These are things gods do, everyone of these feats are something you would think a god is capable of doing in the real or comic book world. That's why he came off as a very intense character. He's creating and destroying ever time he fights somebody. What did Madara do during his time? Swung Susano'o swords around. He made a light construct out of a samurai that can cut 5 mountains, with all the power he was hyped to have he stuck to the stereotypical japanese chakra megazord power ranger thing. That's why he didn't seem so godly until he became Jyubi jinchuuriki.

 

[Jiren]

Because there was actual despair and peins powers were non debatably the strongest. In the war arc everything changed once naruto had the kyuubis powers and went semi super sayain. He had a strong ass plotshield and eventually the series lost its edge

 

[Melanin]

The way he just attacked the village directly was so savage but the way he single handily destroyed it was Aries God Of War type shit.

 

[L O S T]

As edo tensei or Jyubi jinchuriki, but pain was fighting like a god.

He blew away a village with a raise of his hand, assimilated a planetoid from like 12 mountains, manipulated 6 undead bodies, took people's souls from their body while reading their mind, and resurrected the dead after he finished killing them.

These are things gods do, everyone of these feats are something you would think a god is capable of doing in the real or comic book world. That's why he came off as a very intense character. He's creating and destroying ever time he fights somebody. What did Madara do during his time? Swung Susano'o swords around. He made a light construct out of a samurai that can cut 5 mountains, with all the power he was hyped to have he stuck to the stereotypical japanese chakra megazord power ranger thing. That's why he didn't seem so godly until he became Jyubi jinchuuriki.

Great points bro. Agreed

Because there was actual despair and peins powers were non debatably the strongest. In the war arc everything changed once naruto had the kyuubis powers and went semi super sayain. He had a strong ass plotshield and eventually the series lost its edge

I truly wish that Kishi would lay off that Kyuubi nice shit and brought the actual one that was hyped out to be lol. You guys seriously comfortable with how the kurama turned out to be?

[video=youtube_share;zYmjaqZu8Sk]https://youtu.be/zYmjaqZu8Sk?t=3m23s[/video]​

From that to a pokemon ?

The way he just attacked the village directly was so savage but the way he single handily destroyed it was Aries God Of War type shit.

God damn, Pein would've been a great final villain with a legit purpose of starting a fukin war unlike
some other pedo bear i know.

 

[SixPathsMike101]

But Madara had more powerful chakra then pain tho? My question was the seriousness of that whole arc feel, Pein had a godly aura, plot was well constructed and good level of intense scenes. Why couldn't war arc continue with that?



Exactly, the continuation should feel as intense or more than that since its a full scale war but i don't see good devolopment, corny situations and plainly ass pull powerups.

In my opinion, Madara lost his godly presence after the meteorite jutsu. Pein had a more intense presence when he pulled out Chibaku tensei:

[video=youtube_share;6zdlZHytkjQ]https://youtu.be/6zdlZHytkjQ[/video]​

You gotta remember that when pein arc came out in manga (I read it at that time,) we didn't know anything about madara, we had only heard whispers of him, he was still just a legend.

 

[L O S T]

You gotta remember that when pein arc came out in manga (I read it at that time,) we didn't know anything about madara, we had only heard whispers of him, he was still just a legend.

That the point bro, lots of build up for a character wasted. But he showed some of them in certain certain battles but untimatly lost that credit during the mid of war arc when a lot of asspulls were revealed at that moment.

 

[SixPathsMike101]

That the point bro, lots of build up for a character wasted. But he showed some of them in certain certain battles but untimatly lost that credit during the mid of war arc when a lot of asspulls were revealed at that moment.

When Kishi started rushing more than usual lol
Kishi Speedblitzed his own story

 

[L O S T]

When Kishi started rushing more than usual lol
Kishi Speedblitzed his own story

kisi could have waited a little bit tho. Rushing the series wasn't a good move and some of the parts of it were unnecessary.

 

[Styles]

All thanks to Itachi.

 

[L O S T]

All thanks to Itachi.

He died of AIDS, get over with it.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I'm not 100% sure but I think his editor left the team and then everything went down hill.

 

[Joshutsu]

The intro first of all showing them attacking the village hyped it way up for me. I had not followed the manga that much those days.

If only the fights highlighted in the intro happened lol whoever made it seems to have had no idea what was going to go down ;0

Pein's set up and demeanor of a god just set the tone for awesomeness. The fact he took out Jiraya, and I didn't know when Naruto was coming back which meant the village was literally in defense mode cuz noone could face him just made it cool.

It will probably always be my favorite arc of shippuden... It wasn't perfect but it was pretty close to that

 

[Edogawa]

It's regarded as best arc because it combined all elements of what makes a memorable arc.

-Important characters were killed savagely, like Jiraiya, Kakashi, Fukasaku, Hinata and Shizune; there was true despair and this affected Naruto's character development, who resorted to avenging his people which is rare in Naruto's characterization, who is against revenge in contrast Sasuke. Naruto started questioning his foolish ideals, when he saw his village destroyed.

-Teamwork was very important to Konoha's victory. Every character from important to non-important played a part in defeating Nagato, whether it was through intel gathering and etcetera. The War Arc had no teamwork whatsoever, and Naruto was pretty much doing everything which seemingly contradicted the element of teamwork that Kishimito put lot of emphasis throughout the series.

-Nagato was actually a threatening villain, not just in the godlike power he wielded but also his ideals and design, unlike those punks Obito, Madara and Kaguya. His goal of using Tailed Beasts as a weapon to wipe out a nation was far better than trapping world under a Genjutsu, because it actually has an evil vibe to it. The way the 6 Paths of Pain were designed was spot on; they were given a real mysterious appearance, unlike Obito, Madara and Kaguya whom all looked like each other.

War Arc was just a fan service; it lacked so many things to make it spectacular. Apart from Neji, no one died and it lacked despair vibe to it; spam of Edo Tensei ruined everything; Naruto becoming too powerful that teamwork and knowledge didn't matter anymore. The pathetic villains of War Arc. So many things as to why War Arc was just bad.

 

[Sigma 103]

I'd say it had to be Pein's character in general. No matter what, he also spoke in that calming-yet-terrifying way that was legitimately hard to pin down as being the voice of a bad guy or a good guy, especially when you know his backstory and can't help but see them as good people in a bad situation.

The Pein Arc was probably the ONLY arc we couldn't decide on who to side with. We knew that Nagato was a good guy all along, trying to survive with his only two friends. They just happened to fall onto the wrong side. Additionally, we had never seen the level of power Nagato/Pein displayed previously in the series. And it just seemed like a very real possibility that Naruto could fail.

 

[Styles]

He died of AIDS, get over with it.

:wut: what that gotta do with Itachi soloing?

 

[123fire]

It was good yes but nothing tops Obito the long awaited tobi reveal