Can Naruto theoretically do "Four Red Yang Formation" and why didn't he against Momo?

[Reviewing Logic]

Can Naruto theoretically do "Four Red Yang Formation" and why didn't he against Momo?

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A powerful barrier formation noted to only be usable by those of Kage calibre, whereby four shinobi, standing in a square formation, erect a large barrier that is red in colour. It was stated to be several times stronger than the Four Violet Flames Formation, and is highly malleable. When assaulted by a Tailed Beast Ball from the Ten-Tails, the barrier simply distorted its shape, forcing the brunt of the attack upwards while it was left completely intact. Its users can create openings within the barrier to allow passage.

This barrier is apparently very chakra-taxing since at least two of its users are limited in the usage of other techniques, such as clone techniques, while maintaining the barrier at the same time.

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Naruto summoning clones and defending Konoha citizens against Momoshiki Otsutsuki's barrage.

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Four Clones all with Bijuu mode intact.

Eventually Naruto used the Nine Tail's tails to wrap Momo's last explosion and

The Question here is, if Naruto is even capable of learning and doing such a technique and if he can then do you think Naruto would not have been captured/ have any need to sacrifice himself in the presence of Momoshiki?

 

[Calpal]

Re: Can Naruto theoretically do "Four Red Yang Formation" and why didn't he against M

if he had a means of learning it, i think the problem is that no one is alive able to teach him.

 

[Joshutsu]

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if he had a means of learning it, i think the problem is that no one is alive able to teach him.

He literally has access to all jutsu known to konoha now lol it's just not something they care for him to learn.

He did just fine defending the village. I think they pretty much just lost a stadium and maybe a couple near by buildings. Not bad..

 

[Reviewing Logic]

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if he had a means of learning it, i think the problem is that no one is alive able to teach him.

He literally has access to all jutsu known to konoha now lol it's just not something they care for him to learn.

He did just fine defending the village. I think they pretty much just lost a stadium and maybe a couple near by buildings. Not bad..

yes he is Hokage so he has access to all of these top secret Hokage scrolls

plus him replicating it isn't hard either since he has massive reserves of chakra

I believe if he did have that under his belt he could've not have been kidnapped by Momo or would've any need to tank that Momo attack

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

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O gosh yes if he really wanted to create a death match cage he prolly could. But its a double edge sword cause of all the aoe clash.

 

[Edogawa]

Re: Can Naruto theoretically do "Four Red Yang Formation" and why didn't he against M

No, he can't. The technique entry itself says it requires 4 high-level Shinobis, meaning it's a collaboration technique and not something an individual can do. Shadow Clones aren't cutting it since Naruto's Bunshin couldn't even supply Obito with Chakra to open portals and instead used Sakura's. So he can't do it at all.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Re: Can Naruto theoretically do "Four Red Yang Formation" and why didn't he against M

No, he can't. The technique entry itself says it requires 4 high-level Shinobis, meaning it's a collaboration technique and not something an individual can do. Shadow Clones aren't cutting it since Naruto's Bunshin couldn't even supply Obito with Chakra to open portals and instead used Sakura's. So he can't do it at all.

Naruto was busy fighting Kaguya and was drained via the war

nowhere does it say unique individuals

it just says

four shinobi, standing in a square formation

and another requirement

This barrier is apparently very chakra-taxing

Also you can't compare opening a Kaguya dimension to this technique since they are TWO separate abilities that require two separate scenarios


also Naruto has more chakra reserves then Sakura, let us not kid ourselves

 

[Edogawa]

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Naruto was busy fighting Kaguya and was drained via the war

Hagoromo rejuvenated him so that's irrelevant.

nowhere does it say unique individuals

I didn't say it's unique to certain people. Four Shinobi standing in each corner is a collaboration and not an individual thing is a requirement.

Also you can't compare opening a Kaguya dimension to this technique since they are TWO separate abilities that require two separate scenarios

I don't even know what you're talking about here. The barrier needs different Shinobi to collaborate in creating it is a requirement. Naruto needs other 4 powerful characters to do this, otherwise he cannot even with Shadow Clones.

also Naruto has more chakra reserves then Sakura, let us not kid ourselves

Naruto's Chakra > Sakura's Chakra > Shadow Clone as explicitly stated by Obito.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

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Hagoromo rejuvenated him so that's irrelevant.

Regardless he didn't transfer chakra to Obito for that particular scenario due to him (the original) being preoccupied with engaging Kaguya.


And even if he did send a specific clone. (Unlike the one that was with Obito).

a)Unlike in the Boruto movie (against Momo) he wouldn't have the luxury to send a clone with a massive divided amount of chakra away from him and his battle with Kaguya (A 10 tail host).

b) We can't compare penetrating into a Kaguya dimension to the barrier move as we don't know their chakra requirements/relations of either, relative to each other.

c) Even with that clone that doesn't have a split amount of chakra compared to the original, it still used a S06 move to revive Obito, prior to that Obito statement.

I didn't say it's unique to certain people. Four Shinobi standing in each corner is a collaboration and not an individual thing is a requirement.

And nowhere again does it say it can't be an individual with clones...

We saw Naruto divide his chakra equally with his clones before... it was how he fooled Neji's byakugan in the Chunin exams.

And like Stated above, the Kaguya fight didn't give Naruto the luxury to evenly split his reserves or give his clones a large amount of chakra.

I don't even know what you're talking about here. The barrier needs different Shinobi to collaborate in creating it is a requirement. Naruto needs other 4 powerful characters to do this, otherwise he cannot even with Shadow Clones.

Again the description doesn't say it needs different shinobi just

four shinobi, standing in a square formation

and that is just a description explaining the how the event unfolded in the manga

No were does it say it has to be four different people.

Or that you can't do it with 4 clones that have immense chakra control and chakra reserves.

Not only does Naruto have immense chakra reserves now he also has kage level control.

Naruto's Chakra > Sakura's Chakra > Shadow Clone as explicitly stated by Obito.

Obito is talking about that Naruto clone.

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Were...

a) We don't know how much chakra Naruto gave to that clone and like I stated above Naruto wouldn't sacrifirce too much chakra to a clone when his MAIN is fighting against a 10 tail host.

b)The Clone used a Sage of Sixth Move prior to revive Obito from a poor state

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c) Like stated above, again Naruto can evenly distribute his chakra equally to each clone, thus he could do so to 3 clones to make a even Barrier.

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Note that the Hokage's aren't jinjuriki, besides Minato.

Let alone IF Naruto divided his clone equally one of those 3 clones would have more chakra then Sakura. Sakura in the Last had to use her byakugou for 3 days and nights in order to restore Naruto, just remember that.

Which means that unlike the exhausted Sakura we saw in the Kaguya fight, the Sakura in the last was fully refreshed and had her full stockpile but had to push herself for 3 days and nights to replenish Naruto to some extent.

Compare that analogy and Naruto equally diving those reserves into 4 parts.


Nevertheless your comparison to the Obito scenario is fruitless since your comparing TWO separate abilities.

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Who knows how much more the wormhole requires compared to a Four Red Yang Formation.

 

[SenseiSama]

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There's no such thing as ""theoretically"it's a fact he can replicate any feat the Kages did. One clone of his has more reserves than a Kage

 

[Warlocks]

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Naruto was busy fighting Kaguya and was drained via the war

nowhere does it say unique individuals

it just says


and another requirement



Also you can't compare opening a Kaguya dimension to this technique since they are TWO separate abilities that require two separate scenarios


also Naruto has more chakra reserves then Sakura, let us not kid ourselves

Sakura has more chakra reserves then Clone Naruto it BS, as-pull etc
cuz sakura was almost exhausted her chakra she even said that when she was saving naruto

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and naruto reserves compare to half kurama
yellow/gold =naruto
red =kurama

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mangafact

 

[Oblivionx]

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i don't think he can do it alone. If that was the case, hashirama would have done it alone too. That way other kages could have been more useful, but that wasn't the case. So 4 different people are required.

 

[Scryed]

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I believe 4 people are required otherwise Hashi Rama would've done it on his own with his clones. Especially with Sage Mode. Even it it limits the amount of clones, he was still able to make enough to have set up the barrier.

 

[123fire]

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No, he can't. The technique entry itself says it requires 4 high-level Shinobis, meaning it's a collaboration technique and not something an individual can do. Shadow Clones aren't cutting it since Naruto's Bunshin couldn't even supply Obito with Chakra to open portals and instead used Sakura's. So he can't do it at all.

Obito did it by himself

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

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Obito did it by himself

Does that mean Obito = 4 kage level shinobi?

 

[salamander uchiha]

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Red yang barrier not even Hashirama could do it alone with his more durable moku bunshin and he was revived near full power. It requires 4 kage level shinobi not shadow clones even the more. I think them being a B rank jutsu is what negates the possibility of that happening. I know multiple shadow clone is classed as A rank but thays to do with risks it poses to the user.

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Guy makes clear the condition for its use.

 

[lndra]

Re: Can Naruto theoretically do "Four Red Yang Formation" and why didn't he against M

Naruto, a Rikudou user, can probably do the impossible.

 

[SenseiSama]

Re: Can Naruto theoretically do "Four Red Yang Formation" and why didn't he against M

Naruto can use any feat he wants that isn't dojutsu, he didn't use Red Yang for the same reason him and Sasuke have not used 6Path jutsu.

 

[123fire]

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Does that mean Obito = 4 kage level shinobi?

Yes

 

[salamander uchiha]

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Naruto can use any feat he wants that isn't dojutsu, he didn't use Red Yang for the same reason him and Sasuke have not used 6Path jutsu.

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Not even Hashirama can use it alone even with mokuton Bunshin. Neither can Naruto anyway here are the conditions for its use.

As for Nauto and sasuke not using 6 paths powers, Naruto still having them is debatable and Sasuke using them qould end matches too fast. In the Boruto ero Naruto and sasuke have been heavily down graded otherwise Boruto and the others would be overshadowed by them. So in Kodachi's era we can't use their kishi era feats to establish their level. Unless Kodachi goes back to am ping them to kishi era levels.