Why CES is unique to Sakura and Tsunade

[SenseiSama]

Anyone can enhance their power with chakra control BUT none can naturally produce the level of physical strength that Sakura and Tsunade do.

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Hashirama's reaction

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confirmed they wield feats comparable to his own

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The power of CES

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broke prime Madara's avatar

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Stronger magnitude than 6.0 earthquake

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That Senju blood

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As a copy paste of Tsunade she achieved the same level of power as the former Hokage and eventually surpassed it.

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Much like their healing feats, the only ones we know of that can naturally rival the physical strength of Byakogou users are Ashura incarnates and this goes to my next point.




All of Tsunade's feats were originally meant to be a showcase of the power she inherited from Hashirama, CES is unique to her and Sakura because it took 8Gates Gai and Rikudou Naruto for them to be outclassed in solo punches. They're literally the Himawari of their generations.

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P.S : honestly do you know how strong you have to be for Hashirama to fanboy and call you a monster ? CES is owned by SakuTsuna, everyone else is their sons

 

[Joshutsu]

Don't make a thread for the 4 people in this base who lack common sense. You know they are never going to see the truth no matter what lol Noone has ever and probably will ever in base use CES to the level of those two barring Sarada(maybe)if she chooses to continue using such a thing

 

[Ōkami]

So essentially if you naturally have a lot of physical strength and had perfect chakra control you could do CES.


It's a big world, doubt that they're the only two that fit the requirements.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

This beats any strength feat Tsunade and Sakura has ever shown...uttahere:

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[uhmusddy]

Nobody uses CES to that extent because they have actual other skills to spend chakra on


Also KCM Naruto reaches their strength, RSM Naruto surpasses

 

[Joshutsu]

This beats any strength feat Tsunade and Sakura has ever shown...uttahere:

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Which is a Senjutsu boosted Naruto, who could not naturally lift a stone frog.

Whereas Tsunade used her natural chakra to lift Bunta's sword with CES. There's nothing that limits Tsunade from lifting the Rhino other than you having not seen it either.

The Rhino is half the size if that much of a big 3 summon. It's horn is small enough to be gripped lol

 

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okay...

 

[Joshutsu]

Nobody uses CES to that extent because they have actual other skills to spend chakra on


Also KCM Naruto reaches their strength, RSM Naruto surpasses

All i'm seeing is buffs buffs buffs that are outside of their natural chakra applications in base lol In theory people with perfect chakra control, multiple chakra natures, and the ability to use large pool of chakra without wasting stamina can learn many high end jutsu.

It's just not the style of fighting Kishi designed either of them to utilize.

 

[Melanin]

Lmao like it's been previously stated, only 4 people in this place discredit their CES and it's feats.

Which is a Senjutsu boosted Naruto, who could not naturally lift a stone frog.

Whereas Tsunade used her natural chakra to lift Bunta's sword with CES. There's nothing that limits Tsunade from lifting the Rhino other than you having not seen it either.

The Rhino is half the size if that much of a big 3 summon. It's horn is small enough to be gripped lol

Those 4 fan boys don't here nor respond to sensible reason or logic.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Which is a Senjutsu boosted Naruto, who could not naturally lift a stone frog.

Whereas Tsunade used her natural chakra to lift Bunta's sword with CES. There's nothing that limits Tsunade from lifting the Rhino other than you having not seen it either.

The Rhino is half the size if that much of a big 3 summon. It's horn is small enough to be gripped lol

Senjutsu chakra is still chakra and thus chakra enhanced strength feat. Tsunade has her technique Naruto has his own. And Tsunade was having some trouble to lift Bunta's swrod whereas Naruto not only stopped a huge charging rhino but also managed to easily lift it and throw up high in the sky. So I doubt Tsunade could pull that feat.

As far as I know that Rhino summon is as big as the three great summons and horns become pointy at the tip no matter how big its in size overall and thus easy to grab at the tip and not because its horn is small enough to grip :lol

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[Made in Heaven]

And yet Sage Mode, Gates, Gentle Fist, Bijuu Mode, Boil Style, and even basic Chakra usage all use chakra to enhance the user's strength.

 

[Exaar]

But sakura never had alot of natural strength

 

[SenseiSama]

So essentially if you naturally have a lot of physical strength and had perfect chakra control you could do CES.


It's a big world, doubt that they're the only two that fit the requirements.

CES of Sakura and Tsunade's level can't be done by anybody just like learning SM or unlocking Byakogou. Ashura-type feats are extremely difficult to learn and only a handful of people in history are born with the body to do so

 

[Joshutsu]

Senjutsu chakra is still chakra and thus chakra enhanced strength feat. Tsunade has her technique Naruto has his own. And Tsunade was having some trouble to lift Bunta's swrod whereas Naruto not only stopped a huge charging rhino but also managed to easily lift it and throw up high in the sky. So I doubt Tsunade could pull that feat.

As far as I know that Rhino summon is as big as the three great summons and horns become pointy at the tip no matter how big its in size overall and thus easy to grab at the tip and not because its horn is small enough to grip :lol

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The OP is saying noone can naturally with their own chakra replicate anything comparable to their CES. Natural energy gives him the ability to list heavy things. Without it he can't. You know, with his own chakra.

Show me where Tsunade was having trouble lifting Bunta's sword?

Weak fire back, that Rhino is tiny, Tsunade could knock that over clean if she couldn't lift it. Unfortunately noone here has proof that she can't lift it it seems.

I leave Sakura along since her only feat of lifting something particularly heavy is in the fillers -smirk-

But sakura never had alot of natural strength

Noone knows the limitations to Tsunade's natural strength or when she is using it vs when she is not. It's very hard to deduce whether or not Sakura can do lifting with CES based on a very early mention of Tsunade having some measure of natural strength.

 

[SenseiSama]

And yet Sage Mode, Gates, Gentle Fist, Bijuu Mode, Boil Style, and even basic Chakra usage all use chakra to enhance the user's strength.

You missed the first sentence of the thread, we're talking about natural strength not chakra modes. And the fact you're using Naruto's feats to compare to Sakura and Tsunade is proving my point of how no one can naturally reproduce their power unless it's an incarnate.

And the power of GF is to erase chakra using chakra, not the same thing as obliterating objects with raw physical energy.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

So essentially if you naturally have a lot of physical strength and had perfect chakra control you could do CES.


It's a big world, doubt that they're the only two that fit the requirements.

Not really. Considering Shizune forfeited learning it after years of trying, it's kind of an anomaly Sakura learned it within just a short amount of 3 years or less.

There's also this movie: Naruto The Movie: Guardian of the Crescent Moon, which is filler, but regardless, it shows Sakura learned it as a Genin. And Shizune was already Jonin-level at this point wasn't she. Yet she completely failed to learn it.

Senjutsu chakra is still chakra and thus chakra enhanced strength feat. Tsunade has her technique Naruto has his own. And Tsunade was having some trouble to lift Bunta's swrod whereas Naruto not only stopped a huge charging rhino but also managed to easily lift it and throw up high in the sky. So I doubt Tsunade could pull that feat.

As far as I know that Rhino summon is as big as the three great summons and horns become pointy at the tip no matter how big its in size overall and thus easy to grab at the tip and not because its horn is small enough to grip :lol

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Regardless, that's not Chakra Enhanced Strength. That's using SM to boost his strength.

SM Naruto doesn't mold any chakra into his fists. That's what only Sakura and Tsunade do to enhance their punch's strikes.

 

[Made in Heaven]

You missed the first sentence of the thread, we're talking about natural strength

Your title says CES :lol

not chakra modes.

Since when was Boil Release, Gentle Fist, and normal usage of Chakra modes?

And the fact you're using Naruto's feats to compare to Sakura and Tsunade is proving my point of how no one can naturally reproduce their power unless it's an incarnate.

Never said others good reproduce it, I'm saying CES is used by a lot of people.

And the power of GF is to erase chakra using chakra, not the same thing as obliterating objects with raw physical energy.

So Neji was able to break through a tree with mere pokes without using Chakra?
So Hinata was able to scar a Juubi Clones body and sending it flying notably far away with mere pokes without using Chakra?

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

CES is no easy feat evident by how only three people have achieved it.

But to use it to dismiss or discredit SM is also kinda messed up as SM is no easy feat and might even be harder to achieve than CES

I know it wasn't your intent to discredit how difficult it is to achieve SM, but once you said that SM is moot because it uses NE that door became open.

NE, like Natural Chakra, is just as legit as both use an external source to enhanced strength.

If you want to talk about real, actual strength look no further than Gai, Ay or Lee.

 

[Hagoromo sennin]

i can see all the Sakura faps are in attendance!

LMAO.....So weak! Sakura fans are so pathetic...

Basically Everyone in Naruto uses it subconciously or Knowingly....

Both Kisame and Suigetsu use it in a way to lift their big ass sword!

Maddy used it in taijutsu to fight against the armies.

Sasuke used it to contend against Kinshiki's monstrous strength.

its nothing special,everyone uses it beit subconciuosly or knowingly!
this is a world where basically everyone has chakra,you think they wouldn't know how to enhance their strenght with chakra? when others have gone on to re-animate corpses with chakra.


Some gather Chakra at the soles of their feet and releases with pinpoint timing to enable them move very fast,

Hell Hashirama has been known to use it subconciously via Maddy's statement!

Naruto used it in the last by gathering his Chakra/Kurama's/ Asura's and releasing it with pinpoint accuracy timing to an extent that it made a hole in the fu.cking moon,which dwarfs any show of CES foddera has ever and will ever replicate!

And shout out to the faps claiming CES is Naturally done,when in all actuality,you are being Enhanced by Chakra,the same chakra almost any Mode gives.

 

[Team7monaa]

CES is taijutsu/fighting style and is an adaption of medical ninjutsu, it requires training, precise chakra control and extensive knowledge, it was created so that medical ninja could fight in combat if the situation required and cause collateral damage. Also, Sakura and Tsunade’s CES increases all forms of strengths (lifting, throwing, etc) while the people being mentioned here have increased striking power by factors like doijutsu, tailed beast and senjutsu.

CES is based on the users chakra and chakra control alone no outside factors that’s why there are only three users.

At the end of the day the writer of the series classifies Sakura, Tsunade and Sarada as the only users of CES, it’s his word and anything beyond that is denial.

Comprehend?