Chakra Enhanced Strength Isn't Unique to Tsunade, Sakura and Sarada

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

If Narutopedia is anything to go by:

A technique that uses the refine chakra
control and concentration required in
medical ninjutsu to enhance one's strength
to monstrous levels. This is done by storing
chakra into one's hands or feet, and
releasing it onto the target with pinpoint
timing. With this strength, the user can
decimate the ground or even kill opponents
with a single strike. The training for
this application is quite arduous, as Tsunade
repeatedly came at Sakura with full force to
help her learn.

uttahere:

 

[Reviewing Logic]

According to Wikipedia:

Near the end of the fight, Naruto grasps the last remaining shred of the scarf Hinata had made for him and seemingly redirects and channels his chakra shroud into his the scrap in his right fist and delivers a devastating punch

No, Naruto did not use CES in the Last Movie. Again, what makes Sakura and Tsunade unique is their chakra control and not requiring a Mode to boost their strength.

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A technique that uses the refine chakra control and concentration required in medical ninjutsu to enhance one's strength to monstrous levels. This is done by storing chakra into one's hands or feet, and releasing it onto the target with pinpoint timing.

he literally put his chakra into his fist

exactly like CES

him holding on to a thread scrap or him not holding on to it doesn't matter since that was symbolic and a piece of thread does not add or minus one's chakra

Of course he wouldn't be impressed, its a C-rank technique lol it's not that difficult

CES does take refined chakra control which is an application of their medical skill (Sakura and Tsunade)

If you have good chakra control, being that you are probably a high chunin at least. You should be able to pull it off with some practice. Though I don't think most could apply it at monstrous levels like that easily as it's not been done in the manga

Jiraya did hype Tsunade's techniques to have yet to be duplicated before Sakura appeared though. So idk if there is more to it. I don't think so.

pretty much my thoughts in all of this as well

 

[sayian]

[Sub]If Narutopedia is anything to go by:


A technique that uses the refine chakra control and concentration required in medical ninjutsu to enhance one's strength to monstrous levels. This is done by storing chakra into one's hands or feet, and releasing it onto the target with pinpoint timing.

If a character like Naruto used CES to its max... Well, let's just say the effects will rival the Shinra Tensei Deva used on Konoha. Anyone with a large chakra pool and some type of chakra mastery is capable of, in theory, using it.

Question is, is anything unique to Sakura? Most of the characters have a technique unique to them, except for Sakura it seems. Or maybe I'm forgetting...[/Sub]​

Bold is from a notorious inaccurate site relying on a early inaccurate translation. There is no release, you rapidly build the chakra up around the fist to maximize their strength. That's it. It's unique because it can be done in base while others rely on modes which at the sametime require more amount of chakra just to mimic ces for some. It's also impressive that because it can be done in base then stacking it with mode buffs would be broken asf. If Sarada ever gets some form of spd mode buff like the raikage stacked with ces she'll pretty much one shot anyone who isn't using some crazy defense.(space-time, avatar, levitation. etc)

 

[Dreckerplayer]

[Sub]If Narutopedia is anything to go by:

A technique that uses the refine chakra control and concentration required in medical ninjutsu to enhance one's strength to monstrous levels. This is done by storing chakra into one's hands or feet, and releasing it onto the target with pinpoint timing.

If a character like Naruto used CES to its max... Well, let's just say the effects will rival the Shinra Tensei Deva used on Konoha. Anyone with a large chakra pool and some type of chakra mastery is capable of, in theory, using it.

Question is, is anything unique to Sakura? Most of the characters have a technique unique to them, except for Sakura it seems. Or maybe I'm forgetting...[/Sub]​

But that's just you jumping to conclusions.No one said it was exclusive to them. They were the only ones shown to use CES.

 

[Joshutsu]

If Narutopedia is anything to go by:

A technique that uses the refine chakra
control and concentration required in
medical ninjutsu to enhance one's strength
to monstrous levels. This is done by storing
chakra into one's hands or feet, and
releasing it onto the target with pinpoint
timing. With this strength, the user can
decimate the ground or even kill opponents
with a single strike. The training for
this application is quite arduous, as Tsunade
repeatedly came at Sakura with full force to
help her learn.

uttahere:

I think it's just that using a technique like that in the midst of battle is difficult since it's quick. It's just like how Tsunade was impressed Kabuto could use chakra scalpel so well in the midst of battle.

Which is why i'm not excluding people with above average chakra control from being able to learn it. I am excluding them from using it on monstrous levels like Tsunade/Sakura can and now that you brought it up.

They would probably fumble and fail it's execution in a battle scenario without proper practice.

 

[Melanin]

Tsunade lifted the object, Sakura threw a object at the same capacity to what Tsunade lifted but both we're excuted with CES.

 

[Ansatsuken]

What kind of Object she threw?

 

[Urda]

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he literally put his chakra into his fist

exactly like CES

him holding on to a thread scrap or him not holding on to it doesn't matter since that was symbolic and a piece of thread does not add or minus one's chakra


pretty much my thoughts in all of this as well

Umm. You laughing, but I don't think you read it correctly. I should have bolded "chakra shroud" which translate to Kyuubi Mode. Anyway, I'm not going to continue debate over something so small like this.

 

[Melanin]

A stone pillar, it was thrown at the capacity to Tsunade lifting the that giant sword (CES)..)

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Translation: It would seem Tsunade’s “outrageous strength” completely ignores the laws of nature!! The challenge to common sense that is her power is due in no small part to her artful chakra control and fine-tuning. To give things a name, by instantly collecting chakra into her fist and fingers, she obtains a power of destruction bodily strength alone cannot achieve.

 

[Imp]

I don't understand how a normal girl who is only notable kunoichi to replicate a sannins movepool making her one of three people in the history of NV to perform a jutsu that grants temporary immortality, and perform mass remote healing and lead the frontlines in terms of defense not unique.

She may be a copy of Tsunade. But she is nowhere close to clan members, who all share the exact same techniques and abilities. I don't think she should be at the bottom of any list when it comes to uniqueness.

[Sub]Those are feats; nothing new and original, it's all been done before. Most, if not all, of the distinguished ninjas have a technique or two unique to them. I find it hard to believe that one of the main protagonists is unoriginal - both in combat style and personality.[/Sub]​

If Narutopedia is anything to go by:

A technique that uses the refine chakra
control and concentration required in
medical ninjutsu to enhance one's strength
to monstrous levels. This is done by storing
chakra into one's hands or feet, and
releasing it onto the target with pinpoint
timing. With this strength, the user can
decimate the ground or even kill opponents
with a single strike. The training for
this application is quite arduous, as Tsunade
repeatedly came at Sakura with full force to
help her learn.

uttahere:

[Sub]"Arduous" - as with any training.[/Sub]​

Bold is from a notorious inaccurate site relying on a early inaccurate translation. There is no release, you rapidly build the chakra up around the fist to maximize their strength. That's it. It's unique because it can be done in base while others rely on modes which at the sametime require more amount of chakra just to mimic ces for some. It's also impressive that because it can be done in base then stacking it with mode buffs would be broken asf. If Sarada ever gets some form of spd mode buff like the raikage stacked with ces she'll pretty much one shot anyone who isn't using some crazy defense.(space-time, avatar, levitation. etc)

[Sub]Scan?[/Sub]​

But that's just you jumping to conclusions.No one said it was exclusive to them. They were the only ones shown to use CES.

[Sub]Kishimoto went out of his way to make it seem like it is unique to them, when that isn't the case.[/Sub]​

 

[Ansatsuken]

That is Tsunade right? Where is the panel for Sakura?

 

[Dreckerplayer]

[Sub]Those are feats; nothing new and original, it's all been done before. Most, if not all, of the distinguished ninjas have a technique or two unique to them. I find it hard to believe that one of the main protagonists is unoriginal - both in combat style and personality.[/Sub]​

[Sub]"Arduous" - as with any training.[/Sub]​

[Sub]Scan?[/Sub]​

[Sub]Kishimoto went out of his way to make it seem like it is unique to them, when that isn't the case.[/Sub]​

So as far as the manga, is concerned, it IS currently unique to them. So is the byokugo seal, because it takes perfect chakra control to master. To which shizune, tsunades apprentice, could not learn. Sakura and Tsunade are the best at medical ninjutsu, because of their chakra control.Even IF they weren't the only ones to use CES, they'd still be the best at it...because of their talent in chakra control.

Consider that chakra control varies from person to person. Chakra control would be low to high...and perhaps theirs are the pinnacle of chakra control.So ofcourse, they'd naturally be more skilled in CES.

 

[Blackzoro]

Sakura is nothing unique. But its unique that someone like her exist.

dam

 

[sayian]

[Sub]Those are feats; nothing new and original, it's all been done before. Most, if not all, of the distinguished ninjas have a technique or two unique to them. I find it hard to believe that one of the main protagonists is unoriginal - both in combat style and personality.[/Sub]​

[Sub]"Arduous" - as with any training.[/Sub]​

[Sub]Scan?[/Sub]​

[Sub]Kishimoto went out of his way to make it seem like it is unique to them, when that isn't the case.[/Sub]​

Nothing about release even in the databook. Narutowiki/pedia is about as credible as watchmojo's top 10 whatever anime list.

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[FemmeFatale]

When Naruto was learning sage mode the road told him to lift the statue with his natural chakra , meaning that it's possible, but requires extreme skills , which naruto lacked. Even in part 1 Sasuke noted that lee had power chakra in his arm to stop him kick, meaning storing chakra = strength , l

 

[Melanin]

Sakuras CES = Tsunades CES, Sakura's could be considered better being that she doesn't have a 24/7 365 days of the year transforms jutsu active.

That's all, saying that Sakura's CES isn't as capable or her described as super strength isn't performed in accordance would be like me saying Lee's hidden lotus isn't the same as gais..

 

[Imp]

So as far as the manga, is concerned, it IS currently unique to them. So is the byokugo seal, because it takes perfect chakra control to master. To which shizune, tsunades apprentice, could not learn. Sakura and Tsunade are the best at medical ninjutsu, because of their chakra control.Even IF they weren't the only ones to use CES, they'd still be the best at it...because of their talent in chakra control.

Consider that chakra control varies from person to person. Chakra control would be low to high...and perhaps theirs are the pinnacle of chakra control.So ofcourse, they'd naturally be more skilled in CES.

[Sub]Except it isn't unique to them. As you've already said, others who are capable of using it just aren't shown to use it. Others aren't shown to use Amenotejikara. That's because they can't use as they don't have the means to. That's why it's unique to Sasuke.[/Sub]​

Nothing about release even in the databook. Narutowiki/pedia is about as credible as watchmojo's top 10 whatever anime list.

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[Sub]Even then, you mustn't ignore the physics. Your argument is that she only uses the pent-up chakra to harden her fist. If that was the case, there wouldn't be huge AOE. Instead, she'd drill an almost perfect mold of her arm into the ground. To achieve that kind of AOE she's demonstrated, she'd have to release that pent-up chakra. Furthermore, why would she show exhaustion if she wasn't expending any chakra at all? That line of logic makes no sense.[/Sub]​

When Naruto was learning sage mode the road told him to lift the statue with his natural chakra , meaning that it's possible, but requires extreme skills , which naruto lacked. Even in part 1 Sasuke noted that lee had power chakra in his arm to stop him kick, meaning storing chakra = strength , l

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[Belserion]

Sakuras CES = Tsunades CES, Sakura's could be considered better being that she doesn't have a 24/7 365 days of the year transforms jutsu active.

That's all, saying that Sakura's CES isn't as capable or her described as super strength isn't performed in accordance would be like me saying Lee's hidden lotus isn't the same as gais..

Actually Sakura's CES feats are far above Tsunade's. Even in Boruto The Movie she managed to cause a Shockwave without even fully touching the target.

 

[Joshutsu]

[Sub]Those are feats; nothing new and original, it's all been done before. Most, if not all, of the distinguished ninjas have a technique or two unique to them. I find it hard to believe that one of the main protagonists is unoriginal - both in combat style and personality.[/Sub]​

[/Sub][/Indent]

Ninja are unique through their abilities and abilities grant feats so there is not really a difference there in my opinion. In the grand scheme she is unique, not to Tsunade but to the rest of NV to date.

All clan members are below her in uniqueness. Naruto and Sasuke are much more gifted than she is and received more gifts than she ever did. The fact she could acquire such a movepool is good enough.

Tsunade and Sakura do not share the same personality to the core either. They are similar in being short tempered in the comedic sense but Sakura is much different than Tsunade.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

[Sub]Except it isn't unique to them. As you've already said, others who are capable of using it just aren't shown to use it. Others aren't shown to use Amenotejikara. That's because they can't use as they don't have the means to. That's why it's unique to Sasuke.[/Sub]​

[Sub]Even then, you mustn't ignore the physics. Your argument is that she only uses the pent-up chakra to harden her fist. If that was the case, there wouldn't be huge AOE. Instead, she'd drill an almost perfect mold of her arm into the ground. To achieve that kind of AOE she's demonstrated, she'd have to release that pent-up chakra. Furthermore, why would she show exhaustion if she wasn't expending any chakra at all? That line of logic makes no sense.[/Sub]​

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By fact, it is unique to them(currently). It doesn't have to be, but it is. Nice try.

You made an awful comparison, by the way. It was totally unnecessary.I'm speaking on a basis of substance...substance wise, CES has been shown to be unique to the 3.