Chakra Enhanced Strength Isn't Unique to Tsunade, Sakura and Sarada

[Imp]

[Sub]If Narutopedia is anything to go by:

A technique that uses the refine chakra control and concentration required in medical ninjutsu to enhance one's strength to monstrous levels. This is done by storing chakra into one's hands or feet, and releasing it onto the target with pinpoint timing.

If a character like Naruto used CES to its max... Well, let's just say the effects will rival the Shinra Tensei Deva used on Konoha. Anyone with a large chakra pool and some type of chakra mastery is capable of, in theory, using it.

Question is, is anything unique to Sakura? Most of the characters have a technique unique to them, except for Sakura it seems. Or maybe I'm forgetting...[/Sub]​

 

[Ansatsuken]

Sakura is nothing unique. But its unique that someone like her exist.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Yeah we know this, anyone with good chakra control can do it if they wanted to... Heck I wouldn't be shocked if Sasuke or Kakashi can too but just don't.

A bunch of people can do a bunch of certain moves it is just that Kishi focused those characters on their certain power traits or clan customs instead of expanding them in character.

What Sakura has is her byakugou and her medical skills. Also Katsuyu.

Madara wasn't impressed about CES but rather Tsunade's byakugou being similar to Hashi's self healing.

 

[Joon]

What makes this Jutsu unique to them is their chakra control. Everyone else strength is usually boosted by Modes such as Sage Mode or Kyuubi's Chakra Mode.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

What makes this Jutsu unique to them is their chakra control. Everyone else strength is usually boosted by Modes such as Sage Mode or Kyuubi's Chakra Mode.

Which is basically powered by chakra and chakra control.

Just more fancy.

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Frog Kata is pretty much CES but with the added boost of Natural energy so that unlanded hits still hit and their opponents (or sometimes if they lack control themselves) will change into frogs.

 

[Ōkami]

It's a really basic technique in all seriousness.

 

[Joon]

Which is basically powered by chakra and chakra control.

Just more fancy.

Frog Kata is pretty much CES but with the added boost of Natural energy so that unlanded hits still hit and their opponents (or sometimes if they lack control themselves) will change into frogs.

That's not Frog Kata. And Naruto is taking in Nature Energy while Chakra Enhance Strength is using Tsunade or Sakura's own chakra control to produce monstrous level attacks.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

That's not Frog Kata. And Naruto is taking in Nature Energy while Chakra Enhance Strength is using Tsunade or Sakura's own chakra control to produce monstrous level attacks.

CES is still using chakra to make enhanced strength

Using natural energy instead of your own doesn't matter it is the same input and output scenario found in Naruto

same input and output scenario found in a ton of other modes and moves


Instead of CES Frog Kata is NES

Natural Enhanced Strength

 

[Joon]

CES is still using chakra to make enhanced strength

Using natural energy instead of your own doesn't matter it is the same input and output scenario found in Naruto

same input and output scenario found in a ton of other modes and moves


Instead of CES Frog Kata is NES

Natural Enhanced Strength

I don't think you understand. Sakura/Tsunade doesn't need a Mode to boost their strength.

 

[Imp]

[Sub]At this point, I'm struggling to find anything unique to her save her appearance. Her repertoire is almost a carbon-copy of Tsunade's. Her thirst for Sasuke's D? Nope, she shares that with Karin. Uselessness? We have a bunch of characters for that aspect. Maybe the fact that nothing is unique about her is actually what is unique about her? Damn, that Kishi.[/Sub]​

 

[Reviewing Logic]

I don't think you understand. Sakura/Tsunade doesn't need a Mode to boost their strength.

If Naruto can do that mode he can easily do CES
he has better chakra control

and he did CES in the LAST

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Using what is likely Kuruma's chakra (even though Kuruma got seperated him in that scene) to do CES

Chakra enhanced strength like the OP stated just needs good chakra control and some chakra pool to use it




It isn't even shocking since that is why Sakura a non clan ninja went ahead and learnt it

I am not saying some fodders can learn CES but I am saying it isn't some unique ability...

What is Sakura's and Tsunade's main trump card and unique ability is the byakugou.

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Who cares, they all suck, except Tsunade, i like her actually

 

[Joon]

If Naruto can do that mode he can easily do CES
he has better chakra control

and he did CES in the LAST

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Using what is likely Kuruma's chakra (even though Kuruma got separated him in that scene) to do CES

Chakra enhanced strength like the OP stated just needs good chakra control and some chakra pool to use it




It isn't even shocking since that is why Sakura a non clan ninja went ahead and learnt it

I am not saying some fodders can learn CES but I am saying it isn't some unique ability

That's the movie, I'm not going to get into, but what I am saying gets at the OP point. No one else is shown utilizing CES on the level and scale of Tsunade and Sakura which what makes them unique.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

That's the movie, I'm not going to get into, but what I am saying gets at the OP point. No one else is shown utilizing CES on the level and scale of Tsunade and Sakura which what makes them unique.

and again I said other modes do the same

and that Naruto in the CANON last was shown to do it.

It isn't that a certain amount of elites can't do it but rather a certain amount of elites that have the necessary chakra and chakra control choose not to do it since their style and overall other abilities are their priority.

Why do you think Sarada learnt it at a young age?

Byakugou though is another thing entirely.

 

[Joon]

and again I said other modes do the same

and Naruto in the CANON last was shown to do it

According to Wikipedia:

Near the end of the fight, Naruto grasps the last remaining shred of the scarf Hinata had made for him and seemingly redirects and channels his chakra shroud into his the scrap in his right fist and delivers a devastating punch

No, Naruto did not use CES in the Last Movie. Again, what makes Sakura and Tsunade unique is their chakra control and not requiring a Mode to boost their strength.

 

[Dantee]

Using CES at that level is what makes Sakura and Tsunade unique. Sakura doesnt have a particulary large chakra pool either or any special clan to them. Only characters we've seen use CES were ones who were trained to have there chakra control refined at advanced levels for advanced techniques.

 

[Joshutsu]

Yeah we know this, anyone with good chakra control can do it if they wanted to... Heck I wouldn't be shocked if Sasuke or Kakashi can too but just don't.

A bunch of people can do a bunch of certain moves it is just that Kishi focused those characters on their certain power traits or clan customs instead of expanding them in character.

What Sakura has is her byakugou and her medical skills. Also Katsuyu.

Madara wasn't impressed about CES but rather Tsunade's byakugou being similar to Hashi's self healing.

Of course he wouldn't be impressed, its a C-rank technique lol it's not that difficult

CES does take refined chakra control which is an application of their medical skill (Sakura and Tsunade)

If you have good chakra control, being that you are probably a high chunin at least. You should be able to pull it off with some practice. Though I don't think most could apply it at monstrous levels like that easily as it's not been done in the manga

Jiraya did hype Tsunade's techniques to have yet to be duplicated before Sakura appeared though. So idk if there is more to it. I don't think so.

 

[Joshutsu]

[Sub]At this point, I'm struggling to find anything unique to her save her appearance. Her repertoire is almost a carbon-copy of Tsunade's. Her thirst for Sasuke's D? Nope, she shares that with Karin. Uselessness? We have a bunch of characters for that aspect. Maybe the fact that nothing is unique about her is actually what is unique about her? Damn, that Kishi.[/Sub]​

I don't understand how a normal girl who is only notable kunoichi to replicate a sannins movepool making her one of three people in the history of NV to perform a jutsu that grants temporary immortality, and perform mass remote healing and lead the frontlines in terms of defense not unique.

She may be a copy of Tsunade. But she is nowhere close to clan members, who all share the exact same techniques and abilities. I don't think she should be at the bottom of any list when it comes to uniqueness.

 

[Melanin]

What makes this Jutsu unique to them is their chakra control. Everyone else strength is usually boosted by Modes such as Sage Mode or Kyuubi's Chakra Mode.

Exactly! Sakura & Tsunade can lift objects 5x their size and punch crarter sized holes into the ground based on chakra alone, their Flawless precise or perfect without flaw chakra control is there uniqueness. They don't need senjutsu, Rikudō chakra or bijū chakra to pull off super strength or ehnaced strength.

Yeah we know this, anyone with good chakra control can do it

Wrong!

Building up VAST amounts of chakra in seconds then releasing that same chakra within those same seconds doesn't require "good" chakra control it require precise and flawless chakra control.

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if they wanted to... Heck I wouldn't be shocked if Sasuke or Kakashi can too but just don't.

Yes they probably could enhance their strength with chakra but the question is how well can they do it? Can they naturally omit or collect vast amounts of chakra and release it in seconds without having to put forth a conscious effort... that's what makes Tsunade & Sakura's striking power OP l, becuase I its simply based on basic chakra control.

A bunch of people can do a bunch of certain moves it is just that Kishi focused those characters on their certain power traits or clan customs instead of expanding them in character.

That would be like me saying Sakura or Tsunade could master gentle fist just as easily as Hanabi or Neji if they had a byakugan which allowed them to see chakra points becuase they both have attained the highest form of Chakra Control no other Hyuga possesses.

That would be a non intellectual statement simply because there's a set method of technique and sophistication that goes behind learning how to not only use a byakugan but also hitting a Chakra Point/reading a person's chakra network.

What Sakura has is her byakugou and her medical skills. Also Katsuyu.

Byakugou amplifies ninjutsu, speed and strength all in one
so when he referenced her power her strength he was acknowlaging her strength in turn... plus the feat he was completing on contrast to AY's speed was the fact she cracked his susuanoo with her bare fist as AT couldn't do the same.

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Idk where you got the Katsuyu reference from, Madara wasn't present when Tsunade summoned Katsuyu to heal her comrades.

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[Ansatsuken]

Hmm...when actually Sakura lifting an object?