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Oh wow, do you think that Hagoromo gave Ashura power? Like in abilities or special powers?

/facepalm

What he gave Ashura was the responsibility to lead the ninshuu creed, nothing else. Damn..

Oh dude, I have a lot of manga facts but I am not going to waste my time cutting them and uploading to imgur because of the likes of you. If you think the Uzumakis aren't blood related to the Senjus and that their origin is Indra, be my guest, I won't enter in arguments with people that can't even understand something so simple.



Take my advice, no point arguing anything with this guy.
If he didnt give ashura power , then how the hell are you basing uzumaki's abilities on ashura? Damn...
I can see some embarrassment in your writing lol shame. Uzumaki had powerful chakra and kushina had more powerful chakra than all the other uzumaki. Powerful chakra was given to indra. Uzumaki inherited it. Why do you think madara smiled when he heard about uzumaki? Because it's his direct relatives lmao , you cant understand such a simple fact , no point in arguing with you. You lose easily.
 

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Either you're genuinely stupid which I can tell from your grammar, or you just didn't do your study on ancestry. If the Uzumaki Clan as a whole is blood relative to the Senju, it means they're from the Senju lineage, because they share the same ancestor: Asura Ototusuki. That would in turn make Kushina and every single Uzumaki person cousin to the Senju. That's the reason why Asura can reincarnate to Naruto, who is an Uzumaki. And Rinnegan didn't put ''hella'' strain on his body, you and your dumb gibberish language.
Using shinra and chibaku puts strain on his body. He waa bleeding and coughing blood like a susanoo user
 

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Oh wow, do you think that Hagoromo gave Ashura power? Like in abilities or special powers?

/facepalm

What he gave Ashura was the responsibility to lead the ninshuu creed, nothing else. Damn..

Oh dude, I have a lot of manga facts but I am not going to waste my time cutting them and uploading to imgur because of the likes of you. If you think the Uzumakis aren't blood related to the Senjus and that their origin is Indra, be my guest, I won't enter in arguments with people that can't even understand something so simple.



Take my advice, no point arguing anything with this guy.
You can't read can you mate. Hagoromo says that giving Asura power messed things up the first time, and then giving power to Naruto and Indra's reincarnate Sasuke, still messed things up. If Hagoromo meant Ninshuu when he said power, then why didn't he give Naruto and Sasuke Ninshuu.

The facts are, he entrusted his actual powers and Ninshuu to Asura.

How Indra managed to stalemate with his brother isn't known.
 

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You can't read can you mate. Hagoromo says that giving Asura power messed things up the first time, and then giving power to Naruto and Indra's reincarnate Sasuke, still messed things up. If Hagoromo meant Ninshuu when he said power, then why didn't he give Naruto and Sasuke Ninshuu.

The facts are, he entrusted his actual powers and Ninshuu to Asura.

How Indra managed to stalemate with his brother isn't known.
It still messed things up because the cycle needed to end. There was nothing Hagoromo could do, this is present in the dialogue between Sasuke and Naruto when they are on the floor without arms and Sasuke says he will kill himself and put an end to this..

Hagoromo gave Sasuke and Naruto the possibility to cooperate by having a seal that just worked by being combined but the thing is that it was beyond that, thei transmigrants cycle needed to end, otherwise.. no matter what Hagoromo did, things would eventually end the same.

The meaning goes way beyond Databooks, Naruto wikia and all that BS you people like to post. The true meaning of the Manga is not explained by Sharingans, Kamuis or Gentle fists, it is present in the little things we tend to ignore.

So basically, screw you man and yes, Hagoromo made Ashura the leader of the Ninshu creed and that pissed Indra to death.
 

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Either you're genuinely stupid which I can tell from your grammar, or you just didn't do your study on ancestry. If the Uzumaki Clan as a whole is blood relative to the Senju, it means they're from the Senju lineage, because they share the same ancestor: Asura Ototusuki. That would in turn make Kushina and every single Uzumaki person cousin to the Senju. That's the reason why Asura can reincarnate to Naruto, who is an Uzumaki. And Rinnegan didn't put ''hella'' strain on his body, you and your dumb gibberish language.
You act like if Ashura created Senju and Uchiha alone, you should keep in mind that to make babies you need to mix 2 bloodlines, you need a woman and a man.
It' s funny how you say he didn' t study ancestry although you don' t understand its mecanism.
Have you got a cousin?Are his 2 parents descendants of your ancestors?If your answer is yes, there is incest in your family.If it is no, you have different ancestors than your cousin, making your claim a mistake.
Blood relatives doesn' t imply that you share the same ancestors.
 
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You act like if Ashura created Senju and Uchiha alone, you should keep in mind that to make babies you need to mix 2 bloodlines, you need a woman and a man.
It' s funny how you say he didn' t study ancestry although you don' t understand its mecanism.
Have you got a cousin?Are his 2 parents descendants of your ancestors?If your answer is yes, there is incest in your family.If it is no, you have different ancestors than your cousin, making your claim a mistake.
Blood relatives doesn' t imply that you share the same ancestors.
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Lineage: direct descent from an ancestor; ancestry or pedigree. How Asura reproduced and who with is unknown, but the manga makes it clear Uzumaki are off-spring from Asura and would make them cousins to the Senju. Incest practice is a common in eastern culture, and the theme of Naruto World is from ancient-clan era of Japan, so it's not a surprise Asura reproduced with someone related to him, and his off-spring were later Uzumaki and Senju, making them share the same ancestor.
 

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Lineage: direct descent from an ancestor; ancestry or pedigree. How Asura reproduced and who with is unknown, but the manga makes it clear Uzumaki are off-spring from Asura and would make them cousins to the Senju. Incest practice is a common in eastern culture, and the theme of Naruto World is from ancient-clan era of Japan, so it's not a surprise Asura reproduced with someone related to him, and his off-spring were later Uzumaki and Senju, making them share the same ancestor.

Nagato has 2 parents, one is a Uzumaki, but the other? Nagato Uzumaki being from Senju lineage doesn' t prove that every Uzumaki are descendants of the Senju clan.
The fact that incest exists in this manga doesn' t prove anything.

If you could prove that Nagato' s non-Uzumaki parent wasn' t from Senju lineage, your claim would become truth.I didn' t find a way to prove that, if you find it, I will be happy if you post the scan.
Waiting for that moment, your claims are fanfics.
 
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That's why they didn't cover it in the original series as Naruto would be too OP.....:sigar:
yup kishi gave every uchiha power/jutsu(3t/ms/ems) to sasuke
but when come naruto he didn't gave almost nothing from his father/mother(excluding Life force and chakra)
he could've Uzumaki Chains,ftg,sealing jutsu
 

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The fact that Nagato is a Senju and a Uzumaki doesn' t imply that Uzumaki are descendants of Ashura.
The fact that Senju and Uzumaki are distant blood relatives doesn' t imply that Uzumaki are descendants of Ashura.
Senju are descendants of Ashura, Uzumakis are their distant blood relatives. Its factual that they both have the same ancestor that is Ashura.
 

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Nagato has 2 parents, one is a Uzumaki, but the other? Nagato Uzumaki being from Senju lineage doesn' t prove that every Uzumaki are descendants of the Senju clan.
The fact that incest exists in this manga doesn' t prove anything.

If you could prove that Nagato' s non-Uzumaki parent wasn' t from Senju lineage, your claim would become truth.I didn' t find a way to prove that, if you find it, I will be happy if you post the scan.
Waiting for that moment, your claims are fanfics.
His father is irrelevant, you idiot. If Nagato's Uzumaki/Senju lineage came from his mother, then that must mean every Uzumaki is also from a Senju linage, since they are stated to be related by blood to the Senju, who are Asura's descendants then that means Uzumaki are also related to Asura. There is no way Asura can reincarnate to Naruto, if the Uzumaki didn't descend from Asura like you're claiming. How you can't understand basic ancestry is beyond belief.
 

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His father is irrelevant, you idiot. If Nagato's Uzumaki/Senju lineage came from his mother, then that must mean every Uzumaki is also from a Senju linage, since they are stated to be related by blood to the Senju, who are Asura's descendants then that means Uzumaki are also related to Asura. There is no way Asura can reincarnate to Naruto, if the Uzumaki didn't descend from Asura like you're claiming. How you can't understand basic ancestry is beyond belief.
Insults?Interesting.You salty?

Can you post the scan where it says that Nagato's Uzumaki/Senju lineage came from his mother?
You can' t...

Senju are descendants of Ashura, Uzumakis are their distant blood relatives. Its factual that they both have the same ancestor that is Ashura.
Bold is true, the rest is wrong, it is an assumption that Uzumaki and Senju are descendants of Ashura.
The wife of your uncle has no blood link with you, but their descendants have a blood link with you.Even if you share blood with your cousin, you don' t have the same ancestors, except if your family practices incest.
 
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Insults?Interesting.You salty?

Can you post the scan where it says that Nagato's Uzumaki/Senju lineage came from his mother?
You can' t...



Bold is true, the rest is wrong, it is an assumption that Uzumaki and Senju are descendants of Ashura.
The wife of your uncle has no blood link with you, but their descendants have a blood link with you.Even if you share blood with your cousin, you don' t have the same ancestors, except if your family practices incest.
Indra reincarnated in Madara and Sasuke who are Uchiha. Ashura reincarnated in Hashirama(Senju) and Naruto(Uzumaki). You are looking at their relationship too realistically.
It's clear Kishi made Uzumaki relatives to Senju so the Ashura v. Indra and Senju v. Uchiha could still apply for Naruto and Sasuke
 

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It still messed things up because the cycle needed to end. There was nothing Hagoromo could do, this is present in the dialogue between Sasuke and Naruto when they are on the floor without arms and Sasuke says he will kill himself and put an end to this..

Hagoromo gave Sasuke and Naruto the possibility to cooperate by having a seal that just worked by being combined but the thing is that it was beyond that, thei transmigrants cycle needed to end, otherwise.. no matter what Hagoromo did, things would eventually end the same.

The meaning goes way beyond Databooks, Naruto wikia and all that BS you people like to post. The true meaning of the Manga is not explained by Sharingans, Kamuis or Gentle fists, it is present in the little things we tend to ignore.

So basically, screw you man and yes, Hagoromo made Ashura the leader of the Ninshu creed and that pissed Indra to death.
Ashura blossomed his power through intense training. Hagoromo stated this. He also gave him ninshuu authority . But thats not the only thing . Uzumaki has strong chakra which senju didnt naturally inherit so uzumaki is indra's lineage . Madara smiled when uzumaki was mentioned , as you know , madara only loves his own clan and is prideful of its status. Hence why he didnt like the konoha diplomacy , despite his clan members liking it . So someone who hates every clan , even the nicest senju clan bcuz of hashi , likes a particular clan , then there must be a deeper reason .
 

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Indra reincarnated in Madara and Sasuke who are Uchiha. Ashura reincarnated in Hashirama(Senju) and Naruto(Uzumaki). You are looking at their relationship too realistically.
It's clear Kishi made Uzumaki relatives to Senju so the Ashura v. Indra and Senju v. Uchiha could still apply for Naruto and Sasuke
I don' t like when people claim things although they can' t prove it.
For your point of transmigrants, it was never stated that Ashura and Indra choose descendants to transmigrate, although I like the idea that they choose descendants to transmigrate.
There is a way to make Naruto follow the transmigrant rule of descendance that I like.
An attractive theory of Minato being a Senju exists and has never been proven wrong, the similarities with Tobirama and the fact that Tobirama' s best student (Hiruzen) grew Minato to be a Hokage make this theory interesting.

Naruto is Yang, Kushina is Yin (although she is a senju????I will doubt it until someone brings me a proof), Minato is Yin/Yang, so Naruto did inherit his strong Yang from his father from an unknown clan although his mother is a Senju descendant?That doesn' t feel right.
 
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I don' t like when people claim things although they can' t prove it.
For your point of transmigrants, it was never stated that Ashura and Indra choose descendants to transmigrate, although I like the idea that they choose descendants to transmigrate.
There is a way to make Naruto follow the transmigrant rule of descendance that I like.
An attractive theory of Minato being a Senju exists and has never been proven wrong, the similarities with Tobirama and the fact that Tobirama' s best student (Hiruzen) grew Minato to be a Hokage make this theory interesting.

Naruto is Yang, Kushina is Yin (although she is a senju????I will doubt it until someone brings me a proof), Minato is Yin/Yang, so Naruto did inherit his strong Yang from his father from an unknown clan although his mother is a Senju descendant?That doesn' t feel right.
So you're saying Minato might be Senju because of reasons? And just because Kushina can use Yin release doesn't make her a "Yin character".

Black Zetsu stated that he went from Uchiha to Senju hoping one f the transmigrants would obtain the rinnegan. That means Indra and Ashura reincarnate to their descendants. Uzumaki are distant relatives to the Senju. Naruto is the new Ashura, so yes they have the same ancestor.
 

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So you're saying Minato might be Senju because of reasons? And just because Kushina can use Yin release doesn't make her a "Yin character".

Black Zetsu stated that he went from Uchiha to Senju hoping one f the transmigrants would obtain the rinnegan. That means Indra and Ashura reincarnate to their descendants. Uzumaki are distant relatives to the Senju. Naruto is the new Ashura, so yes they have the same ancestor.
Yes, a Minato Senju theory exists.
What makes her pure Yin is the databook.
 

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So you're saying Minato might be Senju because of reasons? And just because Kushina can use Yin release doesn't make her a "Yin character".

Black Zetsu stated that he went from Uchiha to Senju hoping one f the transmigrants would obtain the rinnegan. That means Indra and Ashura reincarnate to their descendants. Uzumaki are distant relatives to the Senju. Naruto is the new Ashura, so yes they have the same ancestor.
The fact that kushina has the yin nature, even though senju inherit yang predominantly, establishes the fact that uzumaki descended from indra, who had the higher proportion of yin. Minato might or might not be a senju, though he is from a ceratain clan which has been known, but never realized throughout part one and two.
 
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