Curse Mark Vessel Theory

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

[FONT=&quot]Before I get into this I just want to clarify 2 terms I'll be using. When I say 'new curse mark', I'm talking about Borutos, Kawakis, and Karas. When I say 'old curse mark', I'm talking about the ones created by Orochimaru. For those that don't consider Borutos curse mark as just that,

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[FONT=&quot]Orochimaru is known for his strides towards Ohtsutsuki greatness. I believe there's even more proof of his efforts and motives are tied to those of the Ohtsutsuki clan, and it comes in the form of the old and new curse marks. I believe that the newly introduced curse marks that we see on the members of Kara, Kawaki and Boruto are Ohtsutsuki variants of a jutsu that was already introduced into the Naruto universe, and may even serve a similar purpose. Let's start with what they have in common. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Orchimaru's(old) curse mark allows those who have it to access

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This also seems to be the case for Kawaki and Boruto, based on

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of the anime(and manga). Once activated, they both draw on the curse mark's chakra(or energy) and the mark's pattern starts to glow, indicating the marks chakra/energy is being used. Also, the old curse mark has

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Same goes for the new cure marks, between

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all of them have curse marks, but with different patterns(and/or coloring). Another shared feature is that the old curse marks had

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From the display of

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to the display of what appears to be

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on boruto and kawaki arms during the opening scene, there appears to be various stages of the new curse marks. Although not exactly the same, the new and old curse marks even share similar drawbacks. A user of the old curse mark runs the risk of

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The new curse marks too causes

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Both marks have drawbacks that seem like contingencies for restraining or suppressing the user as a means of control.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]The way curse mark users were targeted is also comparable. While Orochimaru was developing his curse mark, he was searching for a fitting vessel to use it on, allowing him to achieve sage mode.

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Once he discovered Sasuke,

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and he gave Sasuke one of his strongest curse marks. Similarly, Momoshiki gained interest in Boruto after discovering

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Just by looking at Boruto,

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Toneri also sees huge potential in Boruto, and thinks he's to become

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something Toneri says was

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Now curretly in the manga,

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Their reason for doing this however, remains unknown. What plans does Kara have in store and why are they so invested in this new vessel. Does this person have a trait, ability, or bloodline that is coveted by and that could prove useful to Kara? I think so. I believe this vessel that Kara is trying to retrieve is a prime candidate for getting a curse mark or they already have one. I also believe this vessel has a great potential attached to it, and that kara knows of this great potential. I'd go as far to say that Kara's vessel has potential that's as great if not greater than borutos. Keep in mind that so far, none of the curse marks, old or new, were passed off as gifts or rewards. This isn't a repeat of the hagoromo situation where abilities are granted on the condition that a shinobi 'accepts their fate'. No instead, both Orochimarus and momoshikis curse marks were all forcefully placed. We don't exactly know how Kawaki or Kara got their marks, but we can assume it isn't far off from how Boruto or Sasuke got theirs. The old curse mark and the new curse marks in addition to storing chakra, both also harbor part of the spirit. As

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he encountered momoshiki as a 'chakra spirit', this was strikingly close to what hagoromo did when he spoke with Sasuke and Naruto. Momoshiki wasnt physically in front of boruto, so the energy he passed on through the curse mark had to be mostly if not entirely spiritual. Orochimaru himself stated

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[FONT=&quot]So while the new curse marks does remind me a lot of the the old curse mark, I still have to acknowledge a FEW obvious differences. As I said, the drawbacks are similar, but they aren't the same. Borutos curse mark shut down his body and immobilized him. This happened while in combat and stopped him from casting his jutsu. The old curse mark causes the user to overly exert their own chakra, to a lethal degree. And it's this one aspect of the old curse mark that goes against the core principles of the otsutsuki. Chakra usage is something the otsutsuki are very are strict about and even pride themselves on. The otsutsuki as a clan are to utilize chakra at peak efficiency. Another difference between the old and new mark is that Orochimaru only came up with this curse mark after several experiments, while momoshiki is far older than Orochimaru. His mark could potentially predate orochimarus by hundreds of years. The fact that momoshiki even used that jutsu must mean he felt it was effective. Therefore, you could say that the new curse mark is superior to the old curse mark because for one it treats the users chakra better in addition to the potential hundreds of years of testing and experimenting, further improving the efficiency of curse mark. Another difference is that Orochimaru eventually gave up on his pursuit of Sasuke as a vessel. Resolving to simply observing Sasukes journey as an 'unpredictable wind'(Orochimaru later went on to

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). For momoshiki, it seems to be the opposite, even after 'death' he remained confident in what the future holds for boruto. He sees boruto as a 'vessel' for an unavoidable destiny. Momoshiki warns boruto that his 'blues eyes [will] eventually take everything from [him]'.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]In short, Orochimarus use of the curse marks was to use it on a vessel to reach a power that he couldn't attain himself, I think the Ohtsutsuki are doing the same with theirs. I think those who bear the new curse mark are labelled as potential or future vessels for Ohtsutsuki members to attain power(s) they cant effectively gain otherwise. Even with those 3 differences I mentioned earlier, in my opinion the amount of supporting evidence and similarities it too much to ignore. It's for those reasons and more, that I do believe that the connection between the techniques exists(even if it isn't currently confirmed). If the 2 curse marks were confirmed to be connected, this would support my other theory that Orochimaru is irrefutably aligned with Ohtsutsuki clan. Link to that theory

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[Sagebee]

Yeah also think there will be alot of parallels with both seals

But don't think the seals will be used by okutsuki to obtain power they don't have, I think when an okutsuki loses there body they can seal themselves in a host. And I think there's an okutsuki Karas working for whose looking for a perfect host body.

Also from what we know momo picks boruto as his host not because of his eyes but he says because he defeated him.

Also don't think oro is working for or servants he might use Kara but thats it oros not the type to be anyone's lacky without having ulterior motives

 

[Tyrance sasuke]

I believe the vessel = Sakura. Not burrito.

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Because of this. That diamond marking tho.

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

Yeah also think there will be alot of parallels with both seals

But don't think the seals will be used by okutsuki to obtain power they don't have, I think when an okutsuki loses there body they can seal themselves in a host. And I think there's an okutsuki Karas working for whose looking for a perfect host body.

Also from what we know momo picks boruto as his host not because of his eyes but he says because he defeated him.

Also don't think oro is working for or servants he might use Kara but thats it oros not the type to be anyone's lacky without having ulterior motives

*Curse mark

So you think they aren't seeking power, but to be reborn? I thinks its equally plausible. I also think they can do both, seek new powers and resurrection. Still, the otsutsuki are beings of superiority, why would they select a generic vessel over one with more potential?

Before he was defeated momoshiki sensed something in boruto, it made him turn to boruto and thats when he noticed the blue eyes.

orochimaru has dealings with kara, or he has dealings with the otsutsuki. I've been convinced of that for a while now.

 

[Sagebee]

*Curse mark

So you think they aren't seeking power, but to be reborn? I thinks its equally plausible. I also think they can do both, seek new powers and resurrection. Still, the otsutsuki are beings of superiority, why would they select a generic vessel over one with more potential?

Before he was defeated momoshiki sensed something in boruto, it made him turn to boruto and thats when he noticed the blue eyes.

orochimaru has dealings with kara, or he has dealings with the otsutsuki. I've been convinced of that for a while now.

What other vessel options are there

It's unclear reason why he told him that but that's not the reason given for why he gave him the seal

 

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[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

I believe the vessel = Sakura. Not burrito.

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Because of this. That diamond marking tho.

They look the same, I give you that, but with enough context you'll understand that they're different. Also, kara said they lost the vessel, meaning at some point it was in their possession. Kara hasn't gone after sakura.

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

What other vessel options are there

It's unclear reason why he told him that but that's not the reason given for why he gave him the seal

*Curse mark

Look at mitsuki, he's a vessel. Look at boruto, in a sense, he's also a vessel. The term is used differently throughout the new and old story. Figuring out which meaning best fits is part of the fun.

 

[Hag0r0m0 0tsutsuki]

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