1 Tomoe Misconceptions

[Brady]

People seem to have this idea that with each tomoe, a new ability is prescribed to the Sharingan, despite the fact that this has never been shown in the series to be true. People usually reference Sasuke's lack of genjutsu use before his Sharingan's maturity, or a lack of any genjutsu/copying use with 1 tomoe.

The Sharingan is something that matures, meaning that it gets better over time, not that it earns new abilities as time goes on. The Sharingan has prescribed abilities, and their pristine and best use is shown in the 3 Tomoe, but these abilities are not *restricted* to the 3 Tomoe.

The Sharingan has been prescribed abilities by the manga and has never been said to not be capable of genjutsu, copying, movement reading, or any of that shit until it's third stage. All of the abilities are there, and merely require training.

When Sasuke first awoke *HIS* Sharingan, his accuracy with Shuriken improved, forcing Itachi to turn around and deflect the kunai, which failed as one knocked his headband off. All of the Sharingan's abilities are provided since it's awakening, but they won't be as proficient as someone who has their third tomoe.

Merely assuming that they aren't available at 1 Tomoe out of your own convenience is just childish. The Sharingan merely becomes more precise and powerful, abilities aren't added as time goes on, merely improved.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Funny thread coming from a guy who was denying Byakugan precognition stated in same anime.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Don't you consider this stuff filler even though it isn't? Denying Byakugan having precognition, but now that 1T has all these feats....

Anyways, I agree.

 

[Vulpini]

Great thread.

It was never stated that only 2t and 3t sharingan can copy jutsus/precog/cast genjutsu. Actually, we never really got much info on that. Saying it's a retcon is dumb and stupid.

Just because there is a lack of information on what 1t Sharingan can do, doesn't mean it can't do the stuff that were shown in today's episode. Especially with Sarada, who said that she was training her sharingan and is showing herself to be a Sharingan prodigy.

 

[Mori Jin]

It's okay if it suits your narrative right? Hypocrite much?

 

[Brady]

Don't you consider this stuff filler even though it isn't? Denying Byakugan having precognition, but now that 1T has all these feats....

Anyways, I agree.

1 Tomoe Sharingan is still Sharingan, and has never been stated to lack any of the abilities of it's other forms besides MS, and Rinne-Sharingan.

The Byakugan is stated to have precognition and then actually fails to show it. Hinata is in an evenly paced fight with Neji, but still get's decimated, and Neji fails to dodge something he can apparently "anticipate". In their 360 view, they can sense, not anticipate.

 

[Vulpini]

I mean, even a normal sharinganless person can cast a damn genjutsu, what's up with the people who say 1T Sharingan can't cast genjutsu? lmao 1t Sharingan > normal eyes.

This is stupid af.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Comes here to see facts, sees nothing but speculations and fanfics....leaves.

 

[Brady]

It's okay if it suits your narrative right? Hypocrite much?

Fine, the Byakugan has "precognition".

It's not comparable to the Sharingan at all though.

 

[Melanin]

Funny thread coming from a guy who was denying Byakugan precognition stated in same anime.

Lmao got em'

 

[Brady]

Comes here to see facts, sees nothing but speculations and fanfics....leaves.

Point to a page in the manga saying the Sharingan in it's first stage cannot copy or use illusions.

 

[Brady]

Funny thread coming from a guy who was denying Byakugan precognition stated in same anime.

This has nothing to do with the anime, I'm just talking about manga facts. We have no manga evidence that the 1 Tomoe has a restriction of abilities. You're just making it up out of convenience.

 

[Mori Jin]

Point to a page in the manga saying the Sharingan in it's first stage cannot copy or use illusions.

Point to were it says it can?

 

[Made in Heaven]

1 Tomoe Sharingan is still Sharingan, and has never been stated to lack any of the abilities of it's other forms besides MS, and Rinne-Sharingan.

Still not the same, yet here you are trying to defend what you consider fillers while a for months you've been crying about Byakugan precognition even though that fact was stated in the same episodes Kishimoto worked on so much that he forced them to split it into two episodes.

The Byakugan is stated to have precognition and then actually fails to show it.

We also haven't seen Byakugan's 360 vision, does that mean it doesn't exist?

Hinata is in an evenly paced fight with Neji, but still get's decimated

I can't believe an inferior Byakugan user lost to a superior Byakugan user

So now Shisui losing to Madara means Sharingan has no precognition? The logic of this kid, good god.

and Neji fails to dodge something he can apparently "anticipate".
In their 360 view, they can sense, not anticipate.

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I hope you know enough about English to realize "and" separates clauses. Do take a class in English if a sentence as simple as this is too much for you to comprehend.

Tenten says Byakugan can see in a full circle AND anticipate attacks, not Byakugan can anticipate attacks BY seeing in a full circle Honestly, what is it with you people and failing to properly read the most basic, simpe, straightforward of sentences just to deny facts?

Whether Neji failed to react or not is irrelevant, as this has no baring on Byakugan having precognition. To show how off this logic is, it is like claiming Sharingan doesn't have precondition just because Kakashi failed to predict Pains movements.

Ultimately, Byakugan is already said to have precognition as stated even further in the Bolt anime.

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[Darth AniCetuS]

Point to a page in the manga saying the Sharingan in it's first stage cannot copy or use illusions.

Yeah an Indra transmigrant couldn't do any of it and yet fanboys believe that their offspring with diluted genes could.
Anyway since you made this thread the burden of proof lies with you. All I see is opinions with a mix of fanfics.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Lmao got em'

Now fanboys must accept Byakugan precognition because if they don't everything Sarada did with her Sharingan would be filler, lol.

 

[Brady]

Point to were it says it can?

So God doesn't exist because I can't see him? Do you see the bullshit here?

The manga never restricted the abilities to specific stages at all. When the Sharingan was first introduced and Sasuke spoke about it's abilities, he never states that it's restricted to particular stages, just that the eye is capable of all of those abilities.

 

[Brady]

Yeah an Indra transmigrant couldn't do any of it and yet fanboys believe that their offspring with diluted genes could.
Anyway since you made this thread the burden of proof lies with you. All I see is opinions with a mix of fanfics.

Because Sasuke didn't do it doesn't mean he can't. The Sharingan grants genjutsu. If a Sharingan user avoids using it, it doesn't mean they can't.

 

[Imp]

[Sub]So you've created a thread based entirely on speculations to correct misconceptions. The real question is, how stupid are you?[/Sub]​

 

[Mori Jin]

So God doesn't exist because I can't see him? Do you see the bullshit here?

The manga never restricted the abilities to specific stages at all. When the Sharingan was first introduced and Sasuke spoke about it's abilities, he never states that it's restricted to particular stages, just that the eye is capable of all of those abilities.

The burden of proof is on you. Where in the Manga does it say it can? Not once has an uchiha (more powerful uchiha then her), done the things she did with 1t in today's episode. Yet you're going to sit here and try to say "prove to me blah blah blah". Where in the Manga does it say 1T grants all these abilities that every other uchiha got in 2 or 3T.

This ain't about god stick to the topic.