Madara's Physical capabilities.

[Mellanoma]

What feats does EMS madara have showing his physical prowess.

Keep in mind i stated EMS madara not Hashiroid buffed Madara. He did fight with base Hashirama but he never overpowered him nor matched his strength.

Hashirama effortlessly blocking Madara

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Can someone provide a scan of EMS Madara over-powering people as base EMS madara not Hashiroid Madara? If not then im definitely questioning Madara's physical strength

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

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Well that giant ass scroll on hash back is pretty beast. probably stacked with all kinds of SO6P weapons/ weapons. and godly summonings. madara only got the fan and sickle ...gg .

 

[BladelImmortal]

Base Hashirama or not he is still Ashura's transmigrant.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Calls a clash "effortlessly block," well this would be interesting to see what people say but if you pay attention to madara's hand you'll realize that his strike is not a underhand swipe but a over-hand.
This is just a simple clash at base form that reincarnates open up their fights like that. Same with Naruto and Sasuke when they clash fist at base.

Both of them are average strength at base, latent power senjus are naturally suppose to be physically stronger.

 

[Umari Senju]

Madara VS Shinobi alliance. Dude took on an army by himself before dropping a meteor on their heads and he didn’t even need to do that. He just wanted to crush their morale.

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

Madara VS Shinobi alliance. Dude took on an army by himself before dropping a meteor on their heads and he didn’t even need to do that. He just wanted to crush their morale.

Fighting to madara is like dancing or childs play if it isnt hash or 8 gates he solos anyone.

 

[tomer3x3]

First, Hashi cells have no influnce on Madara power (except of having mokuton of course).
We know that because, when Madara was resurrected, Hashi himself noted that Madara regaining his past strength (after fighting with him when they were both edo). So we also know after that statment that edo Madara is weaker than alive Madara (probably only weaker than EMS version) and that's make perfect sense, because we also know that edos are weaker than thier alive forms.

So any display of Madara before he got his Rinnegan back can be count as it were EMS Madara or slightly weaker but that still close enough.

The physical feats of Madara before he got his Rinngan:
1.Edo Madara reacting to v2 A without precog from any version of the Sharingan, while being distracted by Mei jutsu.
2. Edo Madara slaughtering dozens of shinobis with kenjustsu.
3. resurrected blind Madara biltz almost simultaneously SM Naruto and Sai.
4. SM blind Madara (comparable to EMS Madara to some extent) was able to dodge(for few moments) EMS Sasuke Attacks while not having any weapon.

That's pretty much covers his physical abilities that are shown. Maybe there are more that I forgot.

 

[jimbobbity]

Dunno but ill wank him anyway cos of his filler fight against the alliance and him being so strong that Kishi had to bullshit his way out of Madara winning.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Hashi's sword is coming from the upper angle having the advantage while in a superior grip Madara is holding his fan in an inferior grip. If anything this scan confirms Madara effortlessly blocking Hashirama while being in an inferior position. And it looks like Hahsis other hand is trying to hold the Gunbai meaning he's either weak or Madara is really strong.

 

[jimbobbity]

Hashi's sword is coming from the upper angle having the advantage while in a superior grip Madara is holding his fan in an inferior grip. If anything this scan confirms Madara effortlessly blocking Hashirama while being in an inferior position. And it looks like Hahsis other hand is trying to hold the Gunbai meaning he's either weak or Madara is really strong.

I always thought of it as more of a parry tbh.

 

[salamander uchiha]

I always thought of it as more of a parry tbh.

Could be you never know however this scan makes Hashi look weaker.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hashirama would effortlessly overpower Itachi so idk what that scan is supposed to prove here. Hashirama's cells don't increase physical strength. Not once shown. Ever. The only time they did is when Obito's arm and half his torso was made from them, and even then only that arm showed enhanced strength. Madara has them in his chest.

 

[Edogawa]

Hashirama's cells don't grant any physical strength enhancement, since Hashirama himself had none. All the cells did was give him Mokuton. Hashirama was bested in CQC hence him having black rods stuck on his back.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Hashirama's cells don't grant any physical strength enhancement, since Hashirama himself had none. All the cells did was give him Mokuton. Hashirama was bested in CQC hence him having black rods stuck on his back.

i forgot about this part

 

[UndyingFlame]

I have a strong feeling has cells increase physical strength remember when zetsu was telling obito about his new powers obito went for a whimpy is with no physical prowess to being able to smash a rock with a single punch I'm new on this site so I dunno how to post scans correct me if I'm wrong by bringing up scans

 

[Scryed]

First, Hashi cells have no influnce on Madara power (except of having mokuton of course).
We know that because, when Madara was resurrected, Hashi himself noted that Madara regaining his past strength (after fighting with him when they were both edo). So we also know after that statment that edo Madara is weaker than alive Madara (probably only weaker than EMS version) and that's make perfect sense, because we also know that edos are weaker than thier alive forms.

So any display of Madara before he got his Rinnegan back can be count as it were EMS Madara or slightly weaker but that still close enough.

The physical feats of Madara before he got his Rinngan:
1.Edo Madara reacting to v2 A without precog from any version of the Sharingan, while being distracted by Mei jutsu.
2. Edo Madara slaughtering dozens of shinobis with kenjustsu.
3. resurrected blind Madara biltz almost simultaneously SM Naruto and Sai.
4. SM blind Madara (comparable to EMS Madara to some extent) was able to dodge(for few moments) EMS Sasuke Attacks while not having any weapon.

That's pretty much covers his physical abilities that are shown. Maybe there are more that I forgot.

Sage Mode is the reason why Madara was able to fight like that after being resurrected. Hashi cells do enhance strength and durability (Danzo's increased physical strength when dealing with Karin and Obito blocking a sword with his bare hand), grant some kind of healing (Obito healing from damage several times), and allows you to be a bit reckless since you are able to replace those parts using Zetsu (Madara saying he was being reckless because of this after losing an arm).

Sage Mode grants massive strength (enough for his Limbo to knock down all 9 Bijuu and Naruto tossing giant summons into the sky), strong physical endurance, faster speed, practically enhancing all of your abilities, and sensing which allowed him to fight without eyes.



Alive SM Madara is superior than EMS Madara in physical ability by a margin

 

[tomer3x3]

Sage Mode is the reason why Madara was able to fight like that after being resurrected. Hashi cells do enhance strength and durability (Danzo's increased physical strength when dealing with Karin and Obito blocking a sword with his bare hand), grant some kind of healing (Obito healing from damage several times), and allows you to be a bit reckless since you are able to replace those parts using Zetsu (Madara saying he was being reckless because of this after losing an arm).

Sage Mode grants massive strength (enough for his Limbo to knock down all 9 Bijuu and Naruto tossing giant summons into the sky), strong physical endurance, faster speed, practically enhancing all of your abilities, and sensing which allowed him to fight without eyes.



Alive SM Madara is superior than EMS Madara in physical ability by a margin

I never said that EMS Madara is strong and fast as SM version. SM Madara > EMS Madara in physical abilties.
The all talking about SM is unnecessary and isn't relevant to what I said.

Again, Hashi cell didn't enhance Madara phyiscal abilties.
Hashi fought EMS Madara - fact. Hashi fought edo Madara - fact. Madara is being resurrected, hashi see Madara fight and he is saying that Madara is now regaining his past power- fact.

So hashi himself says Alive Madara thats has Madara past power (alive of course) is > Edo Madara. Thats should be enough for you to accept this. Bonus - edos are weaker than their living forms - thats also something that anyone who read the manga know.

The conclusion: EMS Madara= resurrected (non SM) Madara > edo Madara in phyiscal prowess.

I want to clear up why I did brought the feat of blind SM Madara. Thats because that If you take away SM from this Madara and give him his EMS he will perform the same, because now, he did lost sensing but he got his eyesight back plus EMS plus straight comma of his Mangekyou.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

I have a strong feeling has cells increase physical strength remember when zetsu was telling obito about his new powers obito went for a whimpy is with no physical prowess to being able to smash a rock with a single punch I'm new on this site so I dunno how to post scans correct me if I'm wrong by bringing up scans

That was because Spiral zetsu sapped chakra from the Gedo mazou to increase his strength. That was the whole point of him being there, Obito can't smash a boulder by himself, he didn't even do it in the first place because his arm was broken.

 

[UndyingFlame]

That was because Spiral zetsu sapped chakra from the Gedo mazou to increase his strength. That was the whole point of him being there, Obito can't smash a boulder by himself, he didn't even do it in the first place because his arm was broken.

Hmm.. I guess you may be right might read that whole chapter again just to b sure tho

 

[salamander uchiha]

Hashirama's cells don't grant any physical strength enhancement, since Hashirama himself had none. All the cells did was give him Mokuton. Hashirama was bested in CQC hence him having black rods stuck on his back.

Don't tell that to Hashirama faps they'll get :salt:y.