Rinnegan Sasuke Vs Hashirama & BM Minato

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Rinnegan Sasuke is just an EMS Madara who can teleport. Shinsusenju had beaten Majestic Attire Susanoo before, and will do it again to this inferior Susanoo. Minato's combination of TBB and Hirashin blows up Sasuke. I haven't seen any incredible advancement from Rinnegan Sasuke to lead to me believe he could beat them individually, let alone combined unless this Biju Susanoo, then obviously Sasuke will win due to the output power of Indra's Arrow.
 

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What do you think of the analogy of the gentleman above ?
Every Perfect Susanoo from any user is equal, unless it's amplified by Biju, like Majestic Attire Susanoo or Biju Susanoo. We've seen Sasuke's PS destructive power before, and it's same as Madara's. No reason to believe Rinnegan Sasuke is beating Hashirama, when the latter bested something greater than Sasuke's full power. Minato does the same.

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Sasuke blitzing Hashirama? Only if the distance was 5 or 10 meters, then yeah he could. But he can't. Hashirama is a long range fighter, and his Mokuton constructions will create a distance between him and Sasuke; latter's chance for blitzing is to close the distance using Amenotejikara rapidly, but he isn't doing that since his teleportation is about 5 per usage before recharging. So that post the librarian, Kidgamer, made is garbage as himself and as always.
 

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Sasuke's full power is the same as EMS Madara's: a PS with DC capacity of cutting mountain as shown.

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Did you just used the splashed water of Sasuke's PS clashing with Naruto's BM as evidence of his Susanoo having equal DC to EMS Madara's ??!?!!

Yeah no. As far as feats goes, Sasuke's PS was tearing apart Madara's CT which was said to be far larger than Nagato's which was the size of a mountain range. Not only that, but he did that before Naruto's TBBRS could reach its target. That's hella fast. Madara's PS has never shown feats on this level before.

Further more, Madara's PS was only equal to Mokujin. Meanwhile Sasuke's PS was physically equal to Naruto's BM enhanced with RSM. That says a lot.

No offense, but your analogy is questionable at best.
 

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Can somebody explain to me how Sasuke wins this without using the word 'solo' or 'neg diff' lmao
Hashirama loses due to speed and Ameno strikes from Sasuke

Sasuke can over power Minato with PS/CT

Bijuu dama are MEH at the level of Adult Sasuke and since Minato lacks sage chakra to the levels required to contend with Adult Sasuke he's severely out gunned.

Indra Arrow would probably annihilate them both.
 
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Did you just used the splashed water of Sasuke's PS clashing with Naruto's BM as evidence of his Susanoo having equal DC to EMS Madara's ??!?!!
Not sure what the surprise is. You're going to have to put an argument instead of writing question marks. The splashed water is the size of a singular mountain, shown when compared to the surrounding mountains. Sasuke went with the intent of kill and manifested his full power to do so, yet his DC capacity is only creating a splashing water with equal to size to the surrounding mountain?

Yeah no. As far as feats goes, Sasuke's PS was tearing apart Madara's CT which was said to be far larger than Nagato's which was the size of a mountain range. Not only that, but he did that before Naruto's TBBRS could reach its target. That's hella fast. Madara's PS has never shown feats on this level before.
Madara's CT are visually the same size as the surrounding mountains and Shinju stump.

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The CT has a width of the Shinju stump. The stump is the size of a mountain as shown multiple times. I'll just demonstrate one panel:

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Madara's PS has already shown the DC of cutting mountain before, so if he was in the scenario as Sasuke, he would have cut those CT's too. You're only saying he can't do that because he wasn't shown to, but he can based on substantial evidence.

Further more, Madara's PS was only equal to Mokujin. Meanwhile Sasuke's PS was physically equal to Naruto's BM enhanced with RSM. That says a lot.
That doesn't say anything. What's the proof RSM BM has superior physical strength than Mokujin? Nothing. It's not stated or shown. Databook 4 said PS users share similar traits, such as flying and physical power, so there is nothing to argue here.
 
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No, those water splashes aren't a proof of anything. When Susanoo hit Kurama's tails, its forced is cancelled. Two bodies hitting each other with equal force will cancel each other out.

Um no, those aren't mountains, those are mountain ranges. The chunks of the CT Sasuke cut apart were dwarfing mountains (I still don't know how to post a picture here) but I'm sure you remember the panel.

Let's try to apply some logic and common sense here. Shinju was shown to ridiculously dwarf Hirudora, Hirudora was shown to dwarf turtle island in size, it it was still looked like a tiny point next to the tree.
The tree's branches were bigger than Bijuu.

The tree could be seen all the way from the war battlefield to the valley of the end.

It was said that Madara's CT were larger than Nagato's which was bigger than a mountain range.

How THE HELL are you saying Madara's CT were the size of a mountain ?!

Mokujin was said to be equal to the kyuubi in strength. And Madara's PS was equal to it.

Sasuke's PS was physically equal to Naruto's Kyuubi + Six paths sage chakra. And NO, the DB doesn't say anything about all PS being equal. There isn't anything you can post to prove that Madara's PS is equal to Sasuke's when all feats and logic are against your stance.
@bold The icon that looks like a photo of a tree, will allow you to post omages.
 

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When someone can prove Hashirama reacts to and defends from Ameno even though the faster RSM Naruto got hit then this match will become debatable. Whether or not Madara's PS is stronger than Sasuke's is 100% irrelevant here.
 

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Shadow Style,

1. The splashing water is the result of the shockwave produced from the output power PS slash and Kurama's tail repelling it. The fact the splashing water was equivalent to a single mountain in size means PS slash generated an output power that destroys a mountain. Sasuke went with full intent to kill Naruto, so that speaks about how much DC he could generate. So yes, it's a proof his PS is as powerful as Madara's.

2. You post images by clicking the pic between video and unlink. It'll say Insert Image and you paste the URL link. And I know the panel you're talking about, but Kishimoto doesn't draw everything consistently. There is a direct comparison between the meteors, Shinju stump and surrounding mountains so there is nothing to deny here.

Shinju tree is just tall, the stump is not wide. It's only as wide as one mountain. PS is even shown to stand taller than the stump in the Boruto Movie. PS is the size of a mountain. Eyeballing isn't needed here.

3. Again, that doesn't prove anything. You're just assuming it's stronger because it has small Six Paths Chakra. Rinnegan Madara's Susanoo blade couldn't pierce Gaara's sand, and he had the Six Paths Chakra too. There is no feats that indicates your speculation is true.
 
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