[VS] Neji vs Kimimaro

[Hakke]

Where is the bold coming from? And no, we've seen SRA Neji's Rotation and it's literally the same as CE Neji's.

It is true that the rotation that SRA Neji used was no different from CE Neji. However, he was shown to be capable of producing far more Chakra which means that he can make a bigger and more durable Rotation. The reason why SRA Neji didn't use big Rotation is probably because he didn't want to wast Chakra on a simple daggers.

Also, SRA Neji's mere Chakra shroud was able to slightly change Kidomaru's arrow, Had he used a full Rotation he would've repelled it. That fact alone put SRA Neji's Rotation above his CE self.

1. He had help deflecting the Juubi's tail. So that's irrelevant.
2. Penetration=/=Blunt force.
3. Feats that put Sashiki above

1.No, not irrelevant. Even half amount of power in that attack is stronger than Kimimaro's
2.Irrelevant. What Rotation blocked was greater in power. And it was able to withstand a rain of perceive Mokuton spikes for a good amount of time.
3.Wrong.

Bold makes zero sense. Not only was anything about it spinning ever stated in the Manga, even if it did, Rotation would have to make contact with the side and spin in the opposite direction for it to be able to do what you are saying, and even then that's not how it works. :lol

Well, my bad. I thought that it was because it looked like a driller. So I guess that was a moot point. But still, it won't pierce through Rotation. And even it would, his attack would be redirected before it have a chance to make contact with Neji. And Neji can simply dodge it.

Then he enters CS2 and simply kills him off with ease. The damage that will be done is almost irrelevant. Rotation's best feats are damaging fodder shinobi and Naruto. Not someone as durable and resilient as Kimimaro.

Just because it wouldn't damage Cs2 Kimimaro doesn't mean that it wouldn't knock him back.

Lmao please show me where Hiashi killed them? All you see is them falling. Regardless, Kimimaro in any form is far more durable than both Kid Naruto and fodder shinobi let alone in any version of the Curse Mark. This does nothing to him.

You can see their blood in the first panel.

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Even if they weren't killed, it seriously damaged them.

Nope. Sage Mode has danger sensing which puts it above regular sensing. What you are describing is just like normal sensing, except it's redundant because Neji can already see all around him. So once again, stop using this horrible logic. Neji using a chakra shroud doesn't let him react faster to objects he can already see. The reason why it helped him react is because the arrow was being fired in his blind spot. That is not debatable. Stated in the Manga.

Where are you getting the bold from? Don't start making things up guy. \

Kidomaru's arrow crossed 50m in an almost no time. And SRA Neji's Chakra shroud radius is 5 meters at best. So Neji detected it from just 5 meters and the fact that it not only let Neji sense it but also was fast enough to change it is trajectory shows that it has tracking capability.

Which all becomes irrelevant because he has CS2 and will use it, and Neji's chakra w/o the rotation isn't strong enough to block his assault.

Ok.

Your entire argument is "Neji releases chakra to block him, but I agree that CS2 Kimimaro easily breaks through said chakra shield". Give me a break. Yes, Neji is easily defeated in CQC. Show me that Kimimaro gets so slow that he can't touch Neji because I've yet to see any actual evidence from you despite this being your 2nd or 3rd post on the subject.

-Show me where Kimimaro's speed dropped drastically. Idk why you people think you can make shit up and not get called out. All Lee stated is that Kimimaro got slower. Period. Lee was still about to get his head smashed by Kimimaro's next attack had Gaara not saved him.

The Change in his speed might not be drastic. However it is not negligible either. You are the one should post a feat from Cs2 Kimimaro that suggests that he can land a hit on Neji who is faster than him and has the Byakuagn and the Chakra shroud that increase his reaction speed.

-Air Palm's best feat is pushing Kisame away 5 meters. Kimimaro's physical might was tearing through Gaara's Sand and throwing him a similar distance. Do not compare the two. Air Palm is useless against Kimimaro's attacks.

The Air Palm was powerful enough to blow Kisame's body at a very high speed that it caused a distortion on water with just its momentum. And Kisame also needed to grab his sword to land on his feet and even he, who has a monstrous physical strength, founded some difficulty.

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Just because he tanked it, doesn't mean that it is a weak offense when he tanked the initial kick of Asakujaku (the was stated to be a certain death for anyone with normal durabilty in the 3rd DB) with only moderate damage.


Of course, Kimimaro is not someone with an average durability so I know that it would cause zero damage to him. However that doesn't mean that it is completely useless. An Air Palm aimed at the legs for example can force him to fall or at least stagger and lose balance which can give Neji many chances for evading his attacks.

And bones can sprout anywhere on his body. That cuts Neji's hand if he ever tries to land Gentle Fist. This is mid diff and nothing higher. Neji basically running from Kimimaro once he starts using the Curse Mark doesn't give a mid-high diff rating for this fight.

Correct which is why Kimimaro def wins this. however he would find a hard time land hit on Neji who would be faster than him once he start using the CM lvl2 and who can also easily track and anticipate his movements. And even if he got Neji cornered he'd find a hard time piercing through Rotation. And Air Palm would also give him some trouble that's why I think it is a mid-high diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

It is true that the rotation that SRA Neji used was no different from CE Neji. However, he was shown to be capable of producing far more Chakra which means that he can make a bigger and more durable Rotation. The reason why SRA Neji didn't use big Rotation is probably because he didn't want to wast Chakra on a simple daggers.

No, he didn't use a big Rotation because that is the only level is capable of using Rotation at. That simple.

Also, SRA Neji's mere Chakra shroud was able to slightly change Kidomaru's arrow, Had he used a full Rotation he would've repelled it. That fact alone put SRA Neji's Rotation above his CE self.

Nope. There is literally no comparison being drawn here. Changing the trajectory of something and full on repelling it are two completely different feats with a wide gulf in between them when it comes to difficulty.

1.No, not irrelevant. Even half amount of power in that attack is stronger than Kimimaro's

Evidence that it's more penetrative? I'll wait. Akimichi were catching the Juubi's hands. You Hyuga boys need to stop wanking it's attacks in this state to try and push your agenda.

2.Irrelevant. What Rotation blocked was greater in power. And it was able to withstand a rain of perceive Mokuton spikes for a good amount of time.

Irrelevant. Penetrative power is a big part of whether things get penetrated or not. (Wow, who woulda thought?) Tenpenchii>>Chidori yet KCM Naruto can't take a Chidori, but survived Tenpenchii. Same principle here. I don't care about the Mokuton feat until you prove it's superior.

3.Wrong.

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"Wrong" isn't a rebuttal to a question. Feats that put said attack above Kimimaro's? I'll wait.

Well, my bad. I thought that it was because it looked like a driller. So I guess that was a moot point. But still, it won't pierce through Rotation. And even it would, his attack would be redirected before it have a chance to make contact with Neji. And Neji can simply dodge it.

So basically you made an assumption based on very incomplete evidence? :lol Shocker. The rest isn't relevant until you prove it.

Just because it wouldn't damage Cs2 Kimimaro doesn't mean that it wouldn't knock him back.

Did I say it wouldn't?

You can see their blood in the first panel.

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Even if they weren't killed, it seriously damaged them.

CS2 Kimi>>CS1 Kimi>>Base Kimi>>>Fodders.

Kidomaru's arrow crossed 50m in an almost no time. And SRA Neji's Chakra shroud radius is 5 meters at best. So Neji detected it from just 5 meters and the fact that it not only let Neji sense but also but also was fast enough to change it is trajectory shows that it has tracking capability.

Nope. Sage Mode has danger sensing which puts it above regular sensing. What you are describing is just like normal sensing, except it's redundant because Neji can already see all around him. So once again, stop using this horrible logic. Neji using a chakra shroud doesn't let him react faster to objects he can already see. The reason why it helped him react is because the arrow was being fired in his blind spot. That is not debatable. Stated in the Manga.

Since you obviously don't lack the mental capacity to know to address the argument, I'll post it again for you and will continue to do this until you actually refute what I said without making dumb assumptions.

The Change in his speed might not be drastic. However it is not minimal either. You are the one should post a feat from Cs2 Kimimaro that suggests that he can land a hit on Neji who is faster than him and has the Byakuagn and the Chakra shroud that increase his reaction speed.

Wrong. You made the claim, you bring the proof. That simple. Don't shift burden of proof when backed against the wall. Neji is inferior to Base Kimi and CS1 Kimi in speed and Taijutsu and every other physical ability. CS2's drop has not been shown to be large enough to render him unable to land hits on people of Neji's speed level.

The Air Palm was powerful enough to blow Kisame's body at a very high speed that it caused a distortion on water with just its momentum. And Kisame also needed to grab his sword to land on his feet and even he, who has a monstrous physical strength, founded some difficulty.

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Just because he tanked it, doesn't mean that it is a weak offense when he tanked the initial kick of Asakujaku (the was stated to be a certain death for anyone with normal durabilty in the 3rd DB) with only moderate damage.

Oh look. This argument again. :lol You basically rephrased what I said, except with fluff words to try and prove your point. It's best feat is pushing Kisame 5 meters. Charging through Gaara's Sand>>>Pushing a adult male sized individual back 5 meters. Kisame's physical strength isn't relevant because it wasn't physical strength vs. Air Palm. It was weight vs. Air Palm.

Of course, Kimimaro is not someone with an average durability so I know that it would cause zero damage to him. However that doesn't mean that it is completely useless. An Air Palm aimed at the legs for example can force him to fall or at least stagger and lose balance which can give Neji many chances for evading his attacks.

Nope. Air Palm to the legs pushes him back, then Neji either runs away like you've had him do every post, or he attacks and gets his hand shredded by bones.

Correct which is why Kimimaro def wins this. however he would find a hard time land hit on Neji who would be faster than him once he start using the CM and who can also easily track and anticipate his movements. And even if he got Neji cornered he'd find a hard time piercing through Rotation. And Air Palm would also give him some trouble that's why I think it is a mid-high diff.

Prove that the speed gap is so large that Kimimaro with extended reach can't hit Neji. The rest has been addressed. This is a mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

You really need to stop using bad logic. Speed isn't the only thing that dictates how many hits get landed when fighting in close combat. In base Kimi is faster but his reach is the same as anyone with a sword. In CS2 he's slower, but his reach is far far far greater and his attack speed itself isn't any slower than before.

-Lee would've been dead had Gaara not saved him. [

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Neji also can't be running the entire fight. He has to attack, and that's when he gets fodderized.


I'd also like to note that in VIZ and the Anime it's never said that Kimimaro is slower in his second state. [

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] The bit where Lee says that is actually him talking about his own body being a hindrance. So unless someone can pull up some databook entry or another source I'm missing, Kimimaro suffers no noticeable drop in speed at all.

 

[DrProof]

Honestly. I don't think Rotation is deflecting this. The penetrative force is too great, and Rotation has never faced against something equal to, or greater than Kidomaru's V2 drill-arrows.

Traveled 100+ meters, continuing its penetrative force without slowing whatsoever. Just look at the damage.

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Neji had to focus his chakra to change the trajectory of the arrow, and then move, and still got tagged. Rotation is much different from the chakra shroud which coaxes the arrow instead of outright taking on solid properties, and attempting to physically deflect the object.

I think the drill-arrows would get through Rotation tbh.

 

[Hakke]

Fine guys, I'll concede. it is a mid diff.

 

[Hakke]

Honestly. I don't think Rotation is deflecting this. The penetrative force is too great, and Rotation has never faced against something equal to, or greater than Kidomaru's V2 drill-arrows.

Traveled 100+ meters, continuing its penetrative force without slowing whatsoever. Just look at the damage.

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Neji had to focus his chakra to change the trajectory of the arrow, and then move, and still got tagged. Rotation is much different from the chakra shroud which coaxes the arrow instead of outright taking on solid properties, and attempting to physically deflect the object.

I think the drill-arrows would get through Rotation tbh.

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Wait. Was that distance really 100+ meters?

 

[DrProof]

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Wait. Was that distance really 100+ meters?

Yeah lol. This is 50 meters

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. Kidomaru's arrow as you can see traveled way beyond the size of that pool. And in chapter 197, when Neji channeled his chakra up the cord, it rectifies that fact further.

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And yes, I know what you're going to say. Neji is fast, and I agree. He traveled 100m before Kidomaru could hit the ground, while on the brink of death. But Kimimaro is faster by DB score, and that was a Kimimaro using only his willpower to live for Orochimaru. Doesn't change the outcome of this battle, but its a nice feat for Neji that's often overlooked.

 

[Hakke]

Yeah lol. This is 50 meters

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. Kidomaru's arrow as you can see traveled way beyond the size of that pool. And in chapter 197, when Neji channeled his chakra up the cord, it rectifies that fact further.

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And yes, I know what you're going to say. Neji is fast, and I agree. He traveled 100m before Kidomaru could hit the ground, while on the brink of death. But Kimimaro is faster by DB score, and that was a Kimimaro using only his willpower to live for Orochimaru. Doesn't change the outcome of this battle, but its a nice feat for Neji that's often overlooked.

Cool. That makes Neji's speed feat even more impressive than I thought. Anyway, Kimimaro is obviously faster than SRA Neji. But War Arc Neji is about the same speed as base Kimimaro imo. Cs1 Kimimaro is faster though.

 

[DrProof]

Cool. That makes Neji's speed feat even more impressive than I thought. Anyway, Kimimaro is obviously faster than SRA Neji. But War Arc Neji is about the same speed as base Kimimaro imo. Cs1 Kimimaro is faster though.

Draegod showed me that feat a long ass time ago, back when we were debating Shino vs Neji

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I was actually arguing for Neji being > to Zabuza in speed because the latter lacked anything impressive. post #10

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Neji is by no means slow, or a garbage character. Just he tends to get overrated, and then underrated like all underdogs do. I understand trust me, because all I wank are underdogs. :lol

 

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lmao whoever translated the first scan had grudge aginst kimi

 

[Draegod]

What piercing attack has it shown to deflect? lmao.

That's the same logic as me saying what TBB has EMS Sasuke's "perfect Susanoo" tanked? Yet you and many others cannot show anything because it doesnt exist, only fanmade guesses.

Neji did spin against Naruto. He even figured the Rotation was his only method of survival. It's just KN0 Naruto stopped Neji's goofy ass. KN0 force > Rotation. So anything stronger than KN0 > Rotation for Pt.1 Neji & Pt.2 Neji up until (presumably) the Jubi tailed deflection.

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Neji did not spin, He is literally right there reving his chakra up to spin. Its literally right in the picture in fron of you. lmao Please tell me you're joking. When neji spins/spinning, you only see a blur of him spinning (fact). And no, KN0 force matched Neji's chakra ONLY, its literally in black and white as well as in the anime. lmmfao You're getting as bad like the others ignoring what you see and trying to make your own info up ignoring Kishi. lol

Jubi tailed deflection wasn't an impressive feat anyhow because it took Hiashi's help, and I believe they had a KC? Kimimaro in CS2 shits on Rotation.

Says who? You and your Narutobase frinds? Literally, only like a handful of you guys on this site downplays it. When Madara's Susanoo got crushed by 9 smaller tails (that 5 of them equal the juubi's tail). The Juubi's hand V1 (smaller) sent 2 bijuu flying. Literally the tail sends tons of humans flying 100 meters as it is traveling (Sakura overhyped feat), yet a stationary Neji and hiashi deflect it despite being 1000X smaller. Despite them not only matching the force to send a human 100+ meters flying, and sending Bijuu flying, exceeded the force the juubi applied. **SIGH** SYet Kiimi's drill couldn't even get through minerals, and you're saying its a better feat. lmmfao

ANd No, they didnt have any Kyubi cloak, that literally happens after neji dies (fact). Thats just another reach from you to downplay something.

Kimimaro is faster than Neji, lets stop :lol. So speed doesn't matter vs a Hyuga? Hear yourself rn bro, if speed didn't matter why would Lee think the 5th gate (which increases SPEED & strength) was needed to defeat Neji? Like on lol. Neji would never land a hit on Kimimaro thanks to his ability to protrude bones from everywhere on his body stopping any Gentle Fist assaults.

SHunshin speed means nothing to a hyuga. lmao You guys really think Kiimi and his speed would do anything when Lee Speed does nothing to Neji (fact), Lee states Gates speed is needed to overpower Neji (if speed is the only option). Hyuga doesnt need to match your speed when they can mentally react faster then you can move. Please do not compare Kiimi's speed to 5th gate Lee High speed Combo, Lee in 5th gate shits on kimmi's speed no dificulty. Are you saying Kimmi is equal to 5th gate lee now? and this is part one Neji, dont even allow me to bring up part 2 (who we are actually using), Neji and lee both agreed they needed to see who was stronger in part two, despite 5th gate being shown twice (he tracked Guy 5th gate by the way). Literally all neji has to do is channel his chakra through Kimmi's bones and its KO. The bones would lead to his death, because Neji would just grab one and kill him.

I get Neji is your favorite, but he isn't doing shit here man, and that's the utter truth. You know this.

This has nothing to do with Neji being my favorite. More so the knowledge you guys have on him is pathetic to say the least. Plus im a bigger fan of Kimmi then you as well, so I know both parties better to access the battle. You're lucky I dont have time to really Destroy these weak Argumenst being put up for both sides. smh

 

[DrProof]

That's the same logic as me saying what TBB has EMS Sasuke's "perfect Susanoo" tanked? Yet you and many others cannot show anything because it doesnt exist, only fanmade guesses.

Which includes you bruh (fact). If you're going to make some stupid ass assertion, and claim rotation can deflect piercing attacks, just because it deflected a blunt one, YOU need to provide proof. Don't @ me with this clown shit again. Nigguhs really out here comparing blunt force, and penetrative force. Where we do that @???

Neji did not spin, He is literally right there reving his chakra up to spin. Its literally right in the picture in fron of you. lmao Please tell me you're joking. When neji spins/spinning, you only see a blur of him spinning (fact). And no, KN0 force matched Neji's chakra ONLY, its literally in black and white as well as in the anime. lmmfao You're getting as bad like the others ignoring what you see and trying to make your own info up ignoring Kishi. lol

You f*cking with me right? You gotta be. Talking this big boy shit, and you couldn't be more wrong.

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That only happens when rotation is in progress. If it was just ordinary chakra clashing, it would've been the same as Naruto's. Oh, but it isn't so. I'm sure you can piece the facts together, or would you rather bullshit, and distort them again? Talking about KN0 Naruto didn't match rotation :lol boy bye.

+ Tenten stated it was rotation

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Goofy ass.

Says who? You and your Narutobase frinds? Literally, only like a handful of you guys on this site downplays it. When Madara's Susanoo got crushed by 9 smaller tails (that 5 of them equal the juubi's tail). The Juubi's hand V1 (smaller) sent 2 bijuu flying. Literally the tail sends tons of humans flying 100 meters as it is traveling (Sakura overhyped feat), yet a stationary Neji and hiashi deflect it despite being 1000X smaller. Despite them not only matching the force to send a human 100+ meters flying, and sending Bijuu flying, exceeded the force the juubi applied. **SIGH** SYet Kiimi's drill couldn't even get through minerals, and you're saying its a better feat. lmmfao

ANd No, they didnt have any Kyubi cloak, that literally happens after neji dies (fact). Thats just another reach from you to downplay something.

Don't come @ me with this simp shit bruh. Ever.

You're comparing a penetrative force, to a blunt force. Apples and orange my guy. I'm not speaking on that dumb shit. The fact you're even trying to compare the two is retard-like (fact). No joke Drae, come on.

SHunshin speed means nothing to a hyuga. lmao You guys really think Kiimi and his speed would do anything when Lee Speed does nothing to Neji (fact), Lee states Gates speed is needed to overpower Neji (if speed is the only option). Hyuga doesnt need to match your speed when they can mentally react faster then you can move. Please do not compare Kiimi's speed to 5th gate Lee High speed Combo, Lee in 5th gate shits on kimmi's speed no dificulty. Are you saying Kimmi is equal to 5th gate lee now? and this is part one Neji, dont even allow me to bring up part 2 (who we are actually using), Neji and lee both agreed they needed to see who was stronger in part two, despite 5th gate being shown twice (he tracked Guy 5th gate by the way). Literally all neji has to do is channel his chakra through Kimmi's bones and its KO. The bones would lead to his death, because Neji would just grab one and kill him.

This is an L. Speed means a lot versus ANYONE. Can't believe you just said that dumb shit. And then, you go on further to make this a Lee vs Kimimaro, when no where did I state Kimimaro would be able to keep up, or equal Lee in the 5th gate. Stop with the goofy shit, I stg you being a simp right now.

Part 2 Neji has no speed feats. Please stop. Now.

Channel his chakra through his bones? :lol If Neji even attempts to make contact with Kimimaro's bones he gets skewered. Just stop man. Maybe if Neji was faster than Kimimaro, yeah. But Kimimaro is the superior here in ALL aspects.

This has nothing to do with Neji being my favorite. More so the knowledge you guys have on him is pathetic to say the least. Plus im a bigger fan of Kimmi then you as well, so I know both parties better to access the battle. You're lucky I dont have time to really Destroy these weak Argumenst being put up for both sides. smh

Why do you think this is a competition? I'm glad you're a fan of Kimimaro, like tf bruh? You think just because you're a stan means you're more knowledgable than someone who is/isn't? Shut that dumb shit up boy. You act like you're the crème de la crème when you're not. You need to foh with that ego shit, I been left mine back in the past, now its time for you to lose yours. Especially when you, me, and most of these dudes are no better than the rest.

Sit down real quick Drae, and humble yourself.

 

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so neji rotates to overwhelm base naruto but slams back kn0 naruto without rotating
lol wut

 

[DrProof]

Draegod be like: "Use yours eyes that wasn't rotation, you're arguing against the manga, you're an idiot if you don't see that Neji just revved up his chakra."

Manga be like:

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[neosmith500]

Its pretty dame clear Neji used Kaiten , but it can be shown to people who pay attention to detail that he didn't complete a full 360 spin , his arm was held up in some form of guard and Neji himself said "No! , the Rotation..." , after being surprised by Naruto's sudden burst of Chakra..

Rotation works like a spinning top , the faster you spin = the longer u spin + repelling power hence why he also had problems dealing with the Juubi spikes. For me , it makes sense that a spin not completed would yield less power than a correctly timed use , so imo i think its clear that Neji meant to finish his sentence like this , "No! , the rotation wont make it on time" or something correlating to that effect , hence the reason it was shown to not be complete on page. That unless u want to low-ball it and claim Neji meant to say : "No! , the rotation wont be enough" while ignoring the obvious signs that it was clearly not complete on page..

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Those idiots who have difficulty with manga and think Neji did actually spin, can always watch the anime to see what actually happened.

 

[DrProof]

Its pretty dame clear Neji used Kaiten , but it can be shown to people who pay attention to detail that he didn't complete a full 360 spin , his arm was held up in a block and Neji himself said "No! , the rotation..." , after being surprised by Naruto's sudden burst of Chakra..

Rotation works like a spinning top , the faster you spin = the longer u spin + repelling power hence why he also had problems dealing with the Juubi spikes. For me , it makes sense that a spin not completed would yield less power than a correctly timed use , so imo i think its clear that Neji meant to finish his sentence like this , "No! , the rotation wont make it on time" or something correlating to that effect , hence the reason it was shown to not be complete on page. That unless u want to low-ball it and claim Neji meant to say : "No! , the rotation wont be enough" while ignoring the obvious signs that it was clearly not complete on page..

1. If Neji didn't complete a full rotation, the crater wouldn't have been there. Obviously.

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2. When Neji said: "No! The rotation..." It was prior to Naruto making contact. Neji realized, and so did Hayate that Naruto's chakra was too strong. When Neji said what he said, he was clearly referencing that the rotation was his only defense that could possibly stop the assault.

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3. Point #2 is further reinforced because of Hayate's statement after complimenting Naruto's chakra: "The Hyuga kid... He's probably..." Clearly what's meant to go after the periods is the word. Dead.

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Furthermore, if you use common sense, if you remember what rotation does in the first place (repel) you can see that it actually did happen full spin. Or else Tenten wouldn't have said what she said, and these pages wouldn't have been needed to be drawn.

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Which then finally reveals they both were deflected (rotation's purpose... Obviously).

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What I'm showing you is that the initial clash continued within the smoke, until they deflected each other.

 

[neosmith500]

1. If Neji didn't complete a full rotation, the crater wouldn't have been there. Obviously.

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[DrProof]

The Chakra envelopes him , so if he is able to complete close to a full spin the crater should still appear which is why Neji's skid under his feet mark are not complete showing that he didn't complete a full spin.

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Bold is obvious and so is the rest.

Read my edit to my previous post.

Furthermore, if you use common sense, if you remember what rotation does in the first place (repel) you can see that it actually did happen full spin. Or else Tenten wouldn't have said what she said, and these pages wouldn't have been needed to be drawn.

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Which then finally reveals they both were deflected (rotation's purpose... Obviously).

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What I'm showing you is that the initial clash continued within the smoke, until they deflected each other.

And you admit here he completed "close to a full spin." Sure, we were shown he spun, and in the smoke, and debris the clash continued (where the full rotation happened), until they were flung back due to that's what rotation does.

 

[neosmith500]

Read my edit to my previous post.

And you admit here he completed "close to a full spin." Sure, we were shown he spun, and in the smoke, and debris the clash continued (where the full rotation happened), until they were flung back due to that's what rotation does.

Lmao dude check my first post , that was wat i literally said , anyway as i said the skid mark under his feet show where his spin started and ended. No all we saw was that whammed into it , it then exploded and sent them flying.

Dont see how a full rotation would happen after being caught in a incomplete-spin , that fact alone of it being incomplete should hinder it much less that explosion.