Chakra and affinities.

[salamander uchiha]

From what I've gathered all ninja have a natural chakra affinity so when chakra is manifested it should naturally have that affinity unless altered via hand seals to a new nature.

Therefore rasengan or any chakra based jutsu (gentlefist) should contain the nature as part of their makeup since your actually manifesting your chakra for them(which contains the affinity).

Based on this I think Boruto's rasengan is legit and reflects how things should work not how kishi portrayed rasengan. In fact shadow clones should have the affinity of the user as well. So when they disperse because of damage like kakashi's lightning shadow clones they shock by releasing the remaining chakra in line with the affinity.

Has kishi made a mistake or did the idea of affinities come to him later. Your thoughts are needed.

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Scan confirming everybody has a natural chakra affinity.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

No you must learn how to add that natural affinity.

 

[Last Airbender]

No, affinities do not have any influence on chakra.

 

[salamander uchiha]

No you must learn how to add that natural affinity.

You've missed the point the affinity should already exist within the chakra why would you need to learn to add it. Naruto's rasengan should naturally be lwind based, kakashi's lightning based. Why would you need to learn to do that if your chakra is already affinity inclined.

 

[salamander uchiha]

No, affinities do not have any influence on chakra.

Does the affinity exist in the chakra or not?

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

You've missed the point the affinity should already exist within the chakra why would you need to learn to add it. Naruto's rasengan should naturally be lwind based, kakashi's lightning based. Why would you need to learn to do that if your chakra is already affinity inclined.

No many jutsus don´t need any nature element to be performed. Rasengan is example. You can add you nature affinity but you must train to be able to do that (Unless you are genius like Boruto).

 

[Last Airbender]

Does the affinity exist in the chakra or not?

Probably not, it's just the person's inclination towards one nature.

 

[SenseiSama]

Some fans say that affinity means that you're more skilled with one element more than the others but that's false. Affinity means you have the chakra to use a particular element, regardless of whether you're extremely skilled with it or not.

Most top tier ninja have more than one affinity and just because they prefer sticking to one does not mean they can't use the others that the DB says they have.

 

[salamander uchiha]

No many jutsus don´t need any nature element to be performed. Rasengan is example. You can add you nature affinity but you must train to be able to do that (Unless you are genius like Boruto).

Yin yang jutsu don't require an affinity rasengan is just a manifestation of a person's own hmchakra and therefore that chakra should contain the affinity in in and of itself like Boruto's rssengan.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Those fans are right you'll naturally be skilled with the element your chakra leans to. You can convert your chakra to other natures via handseals and learn to use them.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Probably not, it's just the person's inclination towards one nature.

So are you saying as a person you incline towards a nature and don't actually possess the nature in your chakra?

 

[SenseiSama]

Does the affinity exist in the chakra or not?

Yes it does, Rikudou chakra gave Obito the Yin affinity to use PS, Ashura's chakra gave everyone the Yang to use his healing ability. Affinity comes from the chakra hence the term "chakra nature"

 

[salamander uchiha]

Yes it does, Rikudou chakra gave Obito the Yin affinity to use PS, Ashura's chakra gave everyone the Yang to use his healing ability. Affinity comes from the chakra hence the term "chakra nature"

Obito already had yin release being an Uchiha and possessing sharingan. And I don't know if Ashura's yang gives healing. But what's definite is everybody has a natural chakra affinity Yamato confirms it. Bottom panel.

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[FuriouslAngel]

I dont know what you're saying or what you're trying to say but 5 elements were always there.

edit- But i dont think clones got chakra affinities. /

 

[salamander uchiha]

I dont know what you're saying or what you're trying to say but 5 elements were always there.

edit- But i dont think clones got chakra affinities. /

What I'm saying is since rasengan is just a manifestation of a users chakra it should already be wind based for Naruto without him having to add wind like Boruto's. So Kakashi should naturally produce a lightning natured rasengan. In other words you shouldn't have to add a nature which already exists within the chakra and the chakra/jutsu should already be composed of it.

Clones should have the nature of the user since it's a division of the users chakra itself. That's also why they can use the users jutsu etc otherwise you'd(likely Hyuga) also be able to distinguish between the real and the fake

 

[FuriouslAngel]

What I'm saying is since rasengan is just a manifestation of a users chakra it should already be wind based for Naruto without him having to add wind like Boruto's. So Kakashi should naturally produce a lightning natured rasengan. In other words you shouldn't have to add a nature which already exists within the chakra and the chakra/jutsu should already be composed of it.

He needed to learn how to add affinity and / mix it with chakra , same way as you mix affinities to use some of the jutsu's like Wood Style / or Jinton style.

If that's the case as ur saying, then putting some of the affinities(automatically) on some of the jutsu's maybe it wouldnt end up well or something. That's why you need to control your element and use it w.e you need it, Kakashi even said that's hard to learn?

 

[salamander uchiha]

He needed to learn how to add affinity and / mix it with chakra , same way as you mix affinities to use some of the jutsu's like Wood Style / or Jinton style.

If that's the case as ur saying, then putting some of the affinities(automatically) on some of the jutsu's maybe it wouldnt end up well or something. That's why you need to control your element and use it w.e you need it, Kakashi even said that's hard to learn?

I know what Kakashi said what I'm saying is it already exists in the chakra everybody already has an affinity in their chakra. So it should be happening automatically. If controlling it or adding strength to it is an issue I can understand but that should be it not learning how to add an already existing nature Which should already exist within the chakra. Naruto should've already have a wind rasengan, Kakashi a lightning rasengan.

Perhaps that's confusing I'll make it easier Kakashi's rasengan shouldve been composed of lightning chakra, narutos of wind chakra, If Itachi had 1 out of fire chakra. The reason for that is because a persons chakra has a natural affinty.

I'm also fully aware of what happened in the manga bit that makes no sense in light of this. On one hand your chakra has an affinity on the other you need to add it to your chakra that is a contradiction.

 

[FuriouslAngel]

I know what Kakashi said what I'm saying is it already exists in the chakra everybody already has an affinity in their chakra. So it should be happening automatically. If controlling it or adding strength to it is an issue I can understand but that should be it not learning how to add an already existing nature Which should already exist within the chakra. Naruto should've already have a wind rasengan, Kakashi a lightning rasengan.

Perhaps that's confusing I'll make it easier Kakashi's rasengan shouldve been composed of lightning chakra, narutos of wind chakra, If Itachi had 1 out of fire chakra. The reason for that is because a persons chakra has a natural affinty.

I'm also fully aware of what happened in the manga bit that makes no sense in light of this. On one hand your chakra has an affinity on the other you need to add it to your chakra that is called a contradiction.

Ok.... i understand what you're saying....

But if that's the case what would happened if the user have more then 1 affinity ? He still need's to learn to use that one element that goes with that jutsu/ chidori or rasenshuriken. instead he would mix 2 elements that maybe doesnt go well with each other which in the case wouldnt be good for the user.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Ok.... i understand what you're saying....

But if that's the case what would happened if the use have more then 1 affinity ? He still need's to learn to use that one element that goes with that jutsu/ chidori or rasenshuriken.

If you have water and earth like Yamato and you wanted to use 1 you'd need to change your chakra nature to 1 becoming dominant. If you have 2 or more (kekkei Genkai users) that's how it would work.

If you have 1 like lightning for Sasuke he converts his chakra via hand seals to fire for Katon. He still has 1 nature which is natural. Chidori would work like manifesting your nature then giving is form, rasengan would work the same under those circumstances rasenshuriken may not even exist. A wind made shuriken may which is essentially giving form to chakra.

 

[FuriouslAngel]

If you have water and earth like Yamato and you wanted to use 1 you'd need to change your chakra nature to 1 becoming dominant.

That's why you need to learn how to control your affinity.