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TL;DR Yeah apparently a Greek Event Was cancelled at a Mississippi college because they were threatened that they found a banana peel in a tree.

Apparently hate groups used to do this way back when, but it couldnt be this easy to trigger ppl and get events cancelled, right? I mean wouldnt u usually just enforce more security?

This weekend, leaders from Ole Miss Greek life convened upon Camp Hopewell in Lafayette County for a three-day retreat designed to build leaders and bring campus closer together. The retreat was cut short Saturday night, however, after three black students found a banana peel in a tree in front of one of the camp’s cabins.
The students shared what they found with National Pan-Hellenic Council leaders, sparking a day’s worth of camp-wide conversation surrounding symbolism, intended or not. In the midst of the open and sometimes heated discussion, senior accounting major Ryan Swanson said he put the banana peel in the tree when he could not find a trashcan nearby.
Alexa Lee Arndt, interim director of Fraternity and Sorority Life, said she was one of the only university staff members acting in an administrative capacity at the weekend retreat. Monday afternoon, she sent a letter to all campus chapter presidents, council officers and chapter advisers, confirming the incident and outlining the university’s plans.
“To be clear, many members of our community were hurt, frightened, and upset by what occurred at IMPACT … Because of the underlying reality many students of color endure on a daily basis, the conversation manifested into a larger conversation about race relations today at the University of Mississippi,” Arndt wrote in the letter acquired by The DM.
Student members of Panhellenic Council, National Pan-Hellenic Council and Interfraternity Council were all present at the retreat, which was organized by Fraternity and Sorority Life and the national group IMPACT. IMPACT is a campus-based leadership institute designed to foster improved relationships among campus leaders through a retreat-type program.
Makala McNeil, president of Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority, one of the nine historically African-American sororities and fraternities, said she saw the banana peel after leaving a group discussion that addressed race relations. Saturday morning, all of the retreat’s participants ate breakfast together, followed by a session where they shared their feelings on race relations at Ole Miss. The breakfast options included a fruit cart with bananas.
“The overall tone was heavy,” McNeil, a senior integrated marketing communications and sociology major, said. “I mean, we were talking about race in Mississippi, at the University of Mississippi and in the Greek community, so there’s a lot involved.

After the large discussion session, the students split into smaller conversation groups. McNeil said that around noon on Saturday, she was walking with friends to their group session across camp when one of her sorority sisters pointed at a tree 15 feet away. She said that about six feet up the tree’s trunk sat a lone, fresh-looking banana peel.

“It was so strange and surreal to see it there,” McNeil said. “We were all just sort of paranoid for a second.”
She said the image was especially disturbing in light of an incident on American University’s campus in May of this year. The morning Taylor Dumpson was to take over as the school’s first female black student government president, students found bananas hanging from nooses across campus. Some of the bananas were inscribed with references to Dumpson’s sorority, Alpha Kappa Alpha.
“That, to me, was a slap in the face to see that banana hanging in a tree after talking about the personal truths of our campus,” McNeil said.
McNeil said that by lunchtime, people throughout the camp knew about the incident. As lunch rolled into the afternoon discussion group, the banana peel dominated chatter. That afternoon’s group discussion session served as an open forum on the incident.
“As the staff member responsible for the wellbeing of our community, I felt it was imperative to provide space immediately to students affected by this incident to allow them an opportunity to voice their pain and concern,” Arndt wrote in her statement.
At the start of this session, McNeil said one black student stood up and asked that everyone there google the American University incident to understand the banana peel’s significance. She said he explained how bananas have historically been used to demean black people. McNeil said her sorority sister then raised her hand to simply ask who put the peel in the tree.
She said Swanson stood up and came forward almost immediately after the question. He apologized and said he did not mean any harm by leaving the peel in the tree.
“I want to sincerely apologize for the events that took place this past weekend,” Swanson said in a statement to The DM on Tuesday night. “Although unintentional, there is no excuse for the pain that was caused to members of our community.
“I want to thank my friends in the NPHC for their candid and constructive conversations that we have continued to have. I have much to learn and look forward to doing such and encourage all members of our university community to do the same. We must all keep in mind how our actions affect those around us differently.”
McNeil said that if the banana peel incident was an accident, people need to consider the effects of their actions versus their intent.
“You see how much fear and how much anger you insight in black people just from an unintentional image,” she said.
The conversation carried on, and tensions continued to rise. White and black members of the Ole Miss Greek community shared their views on the day’s events and race relations in general. McNeil said people had a lot to say, but the conversation began to move in an unhealthy direction.
“There were a lot of emotions being showed and a lot of transparency,” McNeil said. “I just don’t feel as though it was being facilitated in a constructive way.”
The massive discussion session wrapped up as more and more students stood and left the room – some in tears, some in frustration. NPHC members began texting friends to come and pick them up from the camp since no one had been allowed to drive his or her car up to the retreat. The remainder of the retreat was canceled later that night.
“At that point, we didn’t feel welcome; we didn’t feel safe,” McNeil said. “If we didn’t feel wanted or safe at the camp, our best option was to leave.”
Katrina Caldwell, vice chancellor for diversity and community engagement, said her office was asked to put a plan together to handle the weekend’s incident on campus.
“Right now, we’re just talking to people on campus who have some experience working across diversity to help the students process what happened,” Caldwell said.
Caldwell said she needs to talk with a couple more faculty members before deciding “what makes the most sense” for the campus.
Arndt said it was important for the vice chancellor for diversity and community engagement to lead the response. Arndt reached out to Caldwell on Saturday night.
“We want to be sensitive to already-scheduled events that are taking place but also do not want to delay having these important follow-up conversations,” Arndt’s statement said.
 
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The banana peel sparked it but it's the group meeting conversations afterwards apparently that was the real suspect
 

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The banana peel sparked it but it's the group meeting conversations afterwards apparently that was the real suspect

Really? >_0 from how I read it the conversation is going to be about how to respond to the incident. Even still, why all the fear? u would think that ppl had announced a terrorist attack. It wasn't like the banana peels were hanging from nooses. A single banana peel in the tree was enough to instill fear and make the entire group feel unsafe <_< how sensitive can one be?
 
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Mississippi is like the most racist place in our country, so much stuff happened there to African Americans. theyre very sensitive to stuff like this, i dont blame them honestly for making sure it wasnt a hate crime

im not saying everyone needs to walk on egg shells all the time but its better if we know what to avoid doing to prevent people from feeling like theyre less than or not safe
 

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Really? >_0 from how I read it the conversation is going to be about how to respond to the incident. Even still, why all the fear? u would think that ppl had announced a terrorist attack. It wasn't like the banana peels were hanging from nooses. A single banana peel in the tree was enough to instill fear and make the entire group feel unsafe <_< how sensitive can one be?

We don't know the exact contents of the discussions but they had many discussions besides how to handle the peel incident. As one guy said the discussion started going south to the point people of color felt unwelcomed. It isn't exactly fear like omg are we gonna get lynched, but no one wants to be in an environment that might be racist.

I repeat, the banana peel alone didn't do this, it opened discussion and then inevitably the cancellation because of said discussion.

I imagine there were some people with your PoV that felt poc were being overly sensitive & probably expressed that in an inconsiderate way. & then probably actual racists.

Anyways, yeah wasn't just the banana peel. I agree cancellation sounds drastic but again we don't know the whole discussion or feelings of the parties involved.
 

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Mississippi is like the most racist place in our country, so much stuff happened there to African Americans. theyre very sensitive to stuff like this, i dont blame them honestly for making sure it wasnt a hate crime

im not saying everyone needs to walk on egg shells all the time but its better if we know what to avoid doing to prevent people from feeling like theyre less than or not safe

Yeah i live in another state that one would consider the most racist in the country <_< and here it's not that bad. So I must ask has there been any big racist incidents recently there?
 

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Yeah i live in another state that one would consider the most racist in the country <_< and here it's not that bad. So I must ask has there been any big racist incidents recently there?

Alabama is the only other one i can think of but slavery and cotton picking literally boomed and thrived in Mississippi...

youre missing the point though, it doesnt matter what happened recently. if anything our country has shown that racism is still well and alive, look who the president is after all. he started his campaign solely recruiting racists

what im saying is theyre as much of Americans as the rest of us and we have terrible history of them being mistreated. people dont forget things like that and its as they say, we're doomed to repeat history if we're not aware of it
 

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Alabama is the only other one i can think of but slavery and cotton picking literally boomed and thrived in Mississippi...

youre missing the point though, it doesnt matter what happened recently. if anything our country has shown that racism is still well and alive, look who the president is after all. he started his campaign solely recruiting racists

what im saying is theyre as much of Americans as the rest of us and we have terrible history of them being mistreated. people dont forget things like that and its as they say, we're doomed to repeat history if we're not aware of it

Yeah as a poc I resent that <_< we aren't that fragile for the most part that we should feel threatened by a single banana peel in a tree. And I also dont see reasoning behind saying it doesn't matter what happened recently, like r u serious? Knowing how widespread a disease is tells us exactly how drastic a measure we need to take or how real the danger is.

I mean when has it been a secret that what supremacists exist in America? This isn't some new discovery, but why the hysteria now? The same scenario that u drew previously could well gave been black students overreacting and calling whites racists or KKK members blaming them for the fruit to the point where the assembly needed to be shut down.

I am basically saying that even if u want to be empathetic if you allow ppl to overreact when the situation doesn't call 4 it u can cause more segregation than progress
 
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Yeah as a poc I resent that <_< we aren't that fragile for the most part that we should feel threatened by a single banana peel in a tree. And I also dont see reasoning behind saying it doesn't matter what happened recently, like r u serious? Knowing how widespread a disease is tells us exactly how drastic a measure we need to take or how real the danger is.

I mean when has it been a secret that what supremacists exist in America? This isn't some new discovery, but why the hysteria now? The same scenario that u drew previously could well gave been black students overreacting and calling whites racists or KKK members blaming them for the fruit to the point where the assembly needed to be shut down.

I am basically saying that even if u want to be empathetic if you allow ppl to overreact when the situation doesn't call 4 it u can cause more segregation than progress

i dont care if youre black or not, neither i or you can speak for your community but the moment people stop caring about this is the moment things start reverting back, the moment its okay to do things like this and nobody is bothered, is the moment when it becomes worst. if you know white supremacy so well, then you should know its all executed very subtly, them making sure this wasnt a hate crime is valid

i dont see this as an overreaction, no matter how you feel as a black person. the fact that a banana peel incident cant even be discussed without having to shut everything down says a lot about how people feel on both sides. it shouldve been as easy as, "we didnt mean anything racist by this, sorry". its not a one sided overreaction
 

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i dont care if youre black or not, neither i or you can speak for your community but the moment people stop caring about this is the moment things start reverting back, the moment its okay to do things like this and nobody is bothered, is the moment when it becomes worst. if you know white supremacy so well, then you should know its all executed very subtly, them making sure this wasnt a hate crime is valid

i dont see this as an overreaction, no matter how you feel as a black person. the fact that a banana peel incident cant even be discussed without having to shut everything down says a lot about how people feel on both sides. it shouldve been as easy as, "we didnt mean anything racist by this, sorry". its not a one sided overreaction

That was my point on asking for any instances, something to validate this kind of reaction other than Trump or the fact that two hate groups fighting and it escalating to some crazy Nazi running ppl over.

Ppl would normally consider where I come from racist, but its not to the point where if we see a banana in a tree we will think of the KKK.
I am sorry, but if your first thought is to take a banana peel in a tree as a racist threat then i believe it's an overreaction. One would normally need more evidence, or some history that this involved hate, but as far as I can see there were none.

Ppl don't have to stop caring , but I believe in appropriate responses for appropriate problems.

Still who knows the college area could very well had a racist problem, being plagued by the KKK, and this was just them taking it as a valid threat. If that were the case then it would be understandable, but I would think that such occurrences would find their way into the article.
 
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That was my point on asking for any instances, something to validate this kind of reaction other than Trump or the fact that two hate groups fighting and it escalating to some crazy Nazi running ppl over.

I am sorry, but if your first thought is to take a banana peel in a tree as a racist threat then i believe it's an overreaction. One would normally need more evidence, or some history that this involved hate, but as far as I can see there were none.

Ppl don't have to stop caring , but I believe in appropriate responses for appropriate problems.

Still who knows the college area could very well had a racist problem, being plagued by the KKK, and this was just them taking it as a valid threat. If that were the case then it would be understandable, but I would think that such occurrences would find their way into the article.

im telling you its not an overreaction, its a valid question to ask as a person whose not black. you can accept that or not but im not discussing it further

the fact that it couldnt even be discussed is an overreaction by both sides, its like white people are so afraid of being called racist but sometimes we do racist shit, even if we arent aware of it. once its pointed out progress is made because people can show more consideration of others, which will help people not feel the way they do when they see a banana in a tree

you also act like race hysteria is this new thing suddenly, when has it not been? you being resentful of the fact that your people went through a lot and seeing it as me calling you "fragile" is also silly. like i said, know your history, race problems have always been a thing in the US because of that same history, people notice things like that because of that same history. college kids are always going to be radical but before them other generations were just as radical or more so
 

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It's not they were threatened by the banana peels but those who hanged them were purposefully trying to be offensive and schools should be firm on acts of discrimination on campus
 

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im telling you its not an overreaction, its a valid question to ask as a person whose not black. you can accept that or not but im not discussing it further

the fact that it couldnt even be discussed is an overreaction by both sides, its like white people are so afraid of being called racist but sometimes we do racist shit, even if we arent aware of it. once its pointed out progress is made because people can show more consideration of others, which will help people not feel the way they do when they see a banana in a tree

you also act like race hysteria is this new thing suddenly, when has it not been? you being resentful of the fact that your people went through a lot and seeing it as me calling you "fragile" is also silly. like i said, know your history, race problems have always been a thing in the US because of that same history, people notice things like that because of that same history. college kids are always going to be radical but before them other generations were just as radical or more so
A question then u said an overreaction by both sides what do u mean by that? Are u assuming that it was both sides being unreasonable?

It's not they were threatened by the banana peels but those who hanged them were purposefully trying to be offensive and schools should be firm on acts of discrimination on campus

It was only one dude, and he just couldn't find a trash can. As far as the overreaction goes if the ppl of One race already felt a way about the other, being out in what I assume was the woods since this was a retreat, and seeing a sign of hate I could see why they would be upset.

But this was a single banana peel thrown in a tree by a thoughtless student.

They even called it thoughtless in the article the point of contention seemed to be more about how the guy's careless action offended the other group

What u may be talking about though was the thing that happened at American university with bananas. If it was like that then sure ppl should be outraged
 
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A question then u said an overreaction by both sides what do u mean by that? Are u assuming that it was both sides being unreasonable?

yeah, its just an assumption based on how the event got canceled, they most likely couldnt get along and move past the misunderstading
 

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A question then u said an overreaction by both sides what do u mean by that? Are u assuming that it was both sides being unreasonable?



It was only one dude, and he just couldn't find a trash can. As far as the overreaction goes if the ppl of One race already felt a way about the other, being out in what I assume was the woods since this was a retreat, and seeing a sign of hate I could see why they would be upset.

But this was a single banana peel thrown in a tree by a thoughtless student.

They even called it thoughtless in the article the point of contention seemed to be more about how the guy's careless action offended the other group

What u may be talking about though was the thing that happened at American university with bananas. If it was like that then sure ppl should be outraged

Maybe I misread the article but wasn't it stared multiple banana peels were thrown and obscenities were written on them?
 

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Maybe I misread the article but wasn't it stared multiple banana peels were thrown and obscenities were written on them?

No that was an incident elsewhere in May
This guy just threw his garbage in a tree
 
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