Naruto vs. Gaara is a higher level fight than we thought

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I think Naruto vs. Gaara was a higher level fight than we thought. It's basically around the same general area with Minato vs. kid mask man in regards to biju level chakra being used and I guess kage level chakra being used in each of their fight.

Now first off I want you to know the summoning jutsu that was being used in Naruto's fight. Gamabunta, a summoning used to at one point was used to take on . But what's different here is that with Naruto is that his summoning used to used a ninjutsu and possibly kawazu kumite in their battle against a tailed beast. Now the reason being for all this is that all frogs from Mount Myōboku use , probably unintentionally. So with that in mind it's possible that in the naruto vs. gaara fight involved senjutsu in it.

Which brings me to the kawazu kumite. Gamabunta against Shukaku here called ''Gama Dosuzan Toad Slash.''
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In the second databook they did not introduced the concept of senjutsu just yet, but they did hinted at the fact that it's a technique that those of Mount Myōboku are only capable of doing. Which is a red flag right there.

And just like the senjutsu gamakichi used (syrup gun), Gamabunta used his senjutsu water style liquid bullet.
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It explains so much why gamabunta was able to survive so much ninjutsus from a biju and cut the arm off a biju that is known for having one the best defense of the nine biju. Sasuke himself even said that it felt like a hurricane during the battle. It's no wonder too with senjutsu and biju chakra flying around everywhere, this battle was a high level kage fight arguably above between two little ass 13 year old genins.
Naruto's demon form chakra alone was already at kage level but because his reserves or stamina are nothing compared to his timeskip, he wasn't able to maintain it for long and later collapsed drained of no stamina (energy) to even move. Gaara himself as well drawing out a full biju with playing possum technique and reverting back is something that can only be compared to what Yugito Nii did, and that was in part 2. But of course the difference in stamina is different at such a young age that he wasn't able to maintain the transformation that long dropping on his knees completely depleted on the ground.

So just a little credit to Naruto and Gaara, since I always give Kakashi, Tobi, pain, and Sasuke some credit for what they do. These kids where one of the few kids in the series to fight at such a high caliber fight as a teenager.
 
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Looks for mindless entertainment. Sees paragraph and what seems like a thought out argument. >_> dips
 

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Okay. But Gaara didn't control his power. Naruto was weak.
 

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People thought it was a lower level fight? It's a jinc on jinc fight before jincs where a big thing, even sasuke was shook at the level of what was going down. It's also my first intro to naruto through a bootleg subtitled DVD before naruto was out in the states proper
 

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See? See?! I've been fangirling this fight since forever and now everyone realizes it's awesomeness?

Still nice thread :win:
 

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People thought it was a lower level fight? It's a jinc on jinc fight before jincs where a big thing, even sasuke was shook at the level of what was going down. It's also my first intro to naruto through a bootleg subtitled DVD before naruto was out in the states proper

Well if you look above you, you'll see that people still think it was a lower level fight. Despite senjutsu and tailed beast chakra being used.
 

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boss summon for the win
 

Rikudou Tobi

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Yet was able to defeat Gaara,something the almighty Sasuke couldnt do...

It's not a naruto vs Sasuke fight, Sasuke did do a good job beating the semi one tailed part until the curse mark started kicking in.
 

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I didn't think op could appreciate anyone that isn't Sasuke or has sharingan.
 

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It's not a naruto vs Sasuke fight, Sasuke did do a good job beating the semi one tailed part until the curse mark started kicking in.

Yea right,lol! we all know what would happened if Naruto hadn't appeared to combat partially transformed Gaara,a transformation Sasuke couldn't keep up with.
 

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Gamabunta did most of the job, you can't really call it Naruto vs Gaara after he turned into Shukaku.
 

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Yea right,lol! we all know what would happened if Naruto hadn't appeared to combat partially transformed Gaara,a transformation Sasuke couldn't keep up with.

Well, what would of happened if Sasuke's curse seal didn't intervene?
Gamabunta did most of the job, you can't really call it Naruto vs Gaara after he turned into Shukaku.
You're right, but it took their chakra to summon those thing and allow them to use all those jutsus.
 

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People thought it was a lower level fight? It's a jinc on jinc fight before jincs where a big thing, even sasuke was shook at the level of what was going down. It's also my first intro to naruto through a bootleg subtitled DVD before naruto was out in the states proper

But after 3 years Oro made it clear not even 4T Kurama rage mode would have him shook, dat Sauce :cool:
 

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Well, what would of happened if Sasuke's curse seal didn't intervene?

You're right, but it took their chakra to summon those thing and allow them to use all those jutsus.

Still would have needed to fight full on Shukaku,something which he neither possesed the chakra nor the summon needed.
 

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I think I can agree with what you're saying
 

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Still would have needed to fight full on Shukaku,something which he neither possesed the chakra nor the summon needed.

That was a full shukaku, in the manga when Gaara went to sleep Shukaku said he had full awakened. He just didn't use the full power of Shukaku because it required a hefty amount of chakra. Yagutio nii did the same as well. Only perfect jinchuuriki's can use tailed beast bomb which gaara didn't. I think that's what you were implying, right?
 
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