[VS] Gaara vs MS Sasuke

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Nvm, I got it right here:

That shit couldn't even pierce through the Damn bridge... Gaara's sand eats that shit man. Unless you're trying to tell me Gaara's sand isn't >>>> a bridge, and some weak Mokuton utilized by Danzo lol.

I pray you don't say that.

It didn't pierce through the bridge after having its trajectory shifted and gone through hashiramas wood style. Sasuke can also shoot two of these simultaneously as he did against Kakashi and like I said lubing gaaras defense with Amaterasu would avoid anything blocking and/or slowing it down. He can also reel the technique back harder than he did in that scan. These are two techniques described as being two fast for the body to react too meaning Gaara is relying on his auto defense to stop all of this.

The second Susanoo Arrow is also there to prevent trajectory shifting or anything being slightly defensive.

Amaterasu doubles as a diversion here and we have seen it used as a diversion against stronger opponents because it has to be dealt with, its faster than most can react to and has been casted large enough to cover his opponents entire body and block his opponents sight meaning these arrows wouldn't even be seen when they're launched.
 
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Gaara's auto defense withstood 5 wood clone Susano'o swords. If Gaara actually mustered a defense other than his auto defense it'd be capable of tanking MS Sasuke's Susano'o sword. That said, Sasuke wouldn't be capable of even touching Gaara with a Susano'o sword because he'd be aerial.

KG said Sasuke's arrows are also his swords so if Gaara can tank an arrow, he can tank a sword. Unless I'm mistaken, I'm hardly versed on anything in the war arc that isn't Gaara lol.

It was actually half of his defense the othet half was protecting mei and defending her against her 5 susannos. Tech in that instant gaara's defense was up against 10 susannos at once just it was seperated. And gaara nor mei got touched rather the sand acted as a buffer
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Dunno where this guy saw 10 susanoo when gaara's sand never engaged with the susanoo's targeting mei
 

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Why even restrict Sasuke? In an unrestricted match Gaara still mops him, just as he does almost everyone in that tier. MS Sasuke's Susano'o get lifted off the ground and Gaara's sand infiltrates from the bottom with the GG. Everything in Sasuke's arsenal from susano'o arrows, to enton, amaterasu, and genjutsu's are easily dealt with.

You can't beat a guy who can fly miles away from his opponent and still control ridiculously overwhelming quantities of sand.
 
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Dunno where this guy saw 10 susanoo when gaara's sand never engaged with the susanoo's targeting mei

Yeah it did mei was about to be butchered but then gaara saves her with his ssnd and did sand bullets at the sussanno thus defending her from her share of susannos the scan i showed was to prove that it was half of gaaras defense defending him because the other half was saving mei

Also engaging and clashing are two different things. Gaara indeed engaged with mei's susannos by protecting the tsrget they were after.
 

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Gaara is a very bad match up for Sasuke.

Amaterasu won't work since Gaara always has a sand coating that he can take off, Genjutsu won't work since Gaara would be so far in the air, Sasuke's hawk may change this but Gaara can still attack the rather defenseless hawk easily with his sand, he can keep away from Susanoo and even pull Sasuke out of it.

The only thing that will work is Kirin and that is if Sasuke survives long enough.
 

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Yeah it did mei was about to be butchered but then gaara saves her with his ssnd and did sand bullets at the sussanno thus defending her from her share of susannos the scan i showed was to prove that it was half of gaaras defense defending him because the other half was saving mei
Yes and no lmao
he did save her but did not fire sand bullets on the susanoo's targetting her.Dunno where are you getting that from [ ][ ][ ]
the amount of sand he used to save was meagre compared what he had access to[ ] or even the amount he used to save himself
Also engaging and clashing are two different things. Gaara indeed engaged with mei's susannos by protecting the tsrget they were after.
Where in fictional plane of your mind :| since i can't see that in manga
 

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Yeah it did mei was about to be butchered but then gaara saves her with his ssnd and did sand bullets at the sussanno thus defending her from her share of susannos the scan i showed was to prove that it was half of gaaras defense defending him because the other half was saving mei

Also engaging and clashing are two different things. Gaara indeed engaged with mei's susannos by protecting the tsrget they were after.

He was up against 5 Susanoo nowhere near the original in power. His Sand Shield already got raped by Madara's v2 Susanoo let alone V3. :lol Stop overrating this guy man. Please. The way you people talk about him you'd think he would've pressured Madara without the other Gokage when he was still using the lower levels of Susanoo.

But no, he was getting his ass beat. :lol
 
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I'm not convinced by a single argument in Gaaras favor. We watched at the beginning of shippuden deidara being 3 steps ahead of gaara and gaara falling for each step of his plan. We watched gaara with Shukaku and a dessert only land a single attack on Deidara which Deidara used to punish gaara. The same deidara that was about two steps behind Sasukes planning. No one has even provided an argument that makes sense in gaaras favor. (If Sasuke isn't retricted)

I don't see how you can underestimate the guy who took an opponent out of the sky without a ground to walk on.
 
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Gaara is a very bad match up for Sasuke.

Amaterasu won't work since Gaara always has a sand coating that he can take off, Genjutsu won't work since Gaara would be so far in the air, Sasuke's hawk may change this but Gaara can still attack the rather defenseless hawk easily with his sand, he can keep away from Susanoo and even pull Sasuke out of it.

The only thing that will work is Kirin and that is if Sasuke survives long enough.

Kirin is another fail against Gaara. MS Sasuke can't use Susano'o and Amaterasu at the same time without having to deactivate Susano'o afterwards, which results in a GG. If you want to argue that his Katon sets up Kirin then it'll be significantly weaker and Gaara's defenses tanked Deidara's C3 while remaining completely unscathed. Then we have the fact that intel is full and Gaara doesn't have to even allow Sasuke's Katon to reach the atmosphere, in addition to bunshins being deployed and spread out for extra precautions to confuse Sasuke as to what to target.

Horrible match up for Sasuke indeed.
 

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Kirin is another fail against Gaara. MS Sasuke can't use Susano'o and Amaterasu at the same time without having to deactivate Susano'o afterwards, which results in a GG. If you want to argue that his Katon sets up Kirin then it'll be significantly weaker and Gaara's defenses tanked Deidara's C3 while remaining completely unscathed. Then we have the fact that intel is full and Gaara doesn't have to even allow Sasuke's Katon to reach the atmosphere, in addition to bunshins being deployed and spread out for extra precautions to confuse Sasuke as to what to target.

Horrible match up for Sasuke indeed.

Is any of what your saying serious? Are you dead serious?
 

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He was up against 5 Susanoo nowhere near the original in power. His Sand Shield already got raped by Madara's v2 Susanoo let alone V3. :lol Stop overrating this guy man. Please. The way you people talk about him you'd think he would've pressured Madara without the other Gokage when he was still using the lower levels of Susanoo.

But no, he was getting his ass beat. :lol

Never said any of that madara would merk gaara however ppl are acting as if gaara does not have counters for susannos... an arrow that didnt even go through a full pillar against kabuto
It will not just go through gaara's defense
 

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Yes and no lmao
he did save her but did not fire sand bullets on the susanoo's targetting her.Dunno where are you getting that from [ ][ ][ ]
the amount of sand he used to save was meagre compared what he had access to[ ] or even the amount he used to save himself

Where in fictional plane of your mind :| since i can't see that in manga

Sorry maybe i realized im getting the anime and manga confused if you rewatch the fight or just that instant you will see what im talking about. However fact of the matter is he split his defense and even half of it was able to protect him from 5 susanno swords
 

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Kirin is another fail against Gaara. MS Sasuke can't use Susano'o and Amaterasu at the same time without having to deactivate Susano'o afterwards, which results in a GG. If you want to argue that his Katon sets up Kirin then it'll be significantly weaker and Gaara's defenses tanked Deidara's C3 while remaining completely unscathed. Then we have the fact that intel is full and Gaara doesn't have to even allow Sasuke's Katon to reach the atmosphere, in addition to bunshins being deployed and spread out for extra precautions to confuse Sasuke as to what to target.

Horrible match up for Sasuke indeed.
Sasuke releasing Susanoo after using Amaterasu does not mean he had to deactivate. While obito mentioning him using a lot of chakra may or may not have insinuated that Sasuke was shown using Susanoo and Amaterasu in unison against the Raikage. Granite, the scale was younger he still was maniuplating the flames with another technique after. Sasuke was using three mangekyou techniques in that fight and then matured it into its incomplete form.If your simply referring to him using those techniques at the same time causing him to deactivate that also isnt true if you re-read Sasuke was using a diverse moveset to see what would work or at least that's how it appears to be[ ][ ][ ][ ].

Another reason I don't believe that to be the case is Mangekyou Sharingan over usage looks much different and more obvious. This[ ]vs[ ][ ]. In the Second scan with Itachi even after his death the technique fell apart it didn't just vanish.
The Viz scan could say something different but Obito only mentioned the chakra usage but the properties of the technique Danzo was using had not been revealed yet and looks as if its just showing that nothing works. Sasuke never mentioned it as weakness or a problem and Danzo never understood it as an opening of some kind.

Gaara preventing Kirin by blocking the Fireballs Sasuke uses to make it is not happening. First, because Sasuke doesn't have to aim the technique anywhere near Gaara for the clouds to cover the sky above him[ ], and secondly, Sasuke uses his lighting abilities to aim the technique towards where ever and whoever he wishes[ ]. Another thing is your bringing up Gaara with not only the Shukaku but an entire dessert to a thread where he wasn't given that privilege. I ask you what is stopping Sasuke from fighting Gaara in the skies and what makes him such an easy target on the ground? Gaara only has his Gourd sand and his ability to make a small dessert but nothing I can understand to be a huge threat. Whats Gaara's finishing blow?

Lastly, Gaara being unscathed is because he was no where near the explosion[ ].
 
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Never said any of that madara would merk gaara however ppl are acting as if gaara does not have counters for susannos... an arrow that didnt even go through a full pillar against kabuto
It will not just go through gaara's defense

No one has proven Susanoo Arrows not to be able to. They can pierce his defense especially if he shoots two simultaneously like he did against Kakashi. Where are Gaara's feats protecting him from a Susanoo Arrow with just the sand is his gourd and not an entire dessert, with the Shukaku or both? No one ever backs up Gaaras defense they just try to discredit Sasukes attacks which they cannot do logically.
 

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Never said any of that madara would merk gaara however ppl are acting as if gaara does not have counters for susannos... an arrow that didnt even go through a full pillar against kabuto
It will not just go through gaara's defense

Stop using dishonest arguments. Not only was that arrow smaller than the standard, it still ripped right through the pillar. Anyone who says otherwise isn't reading the manga properly. V2 Susanoo magatama raped Gaaras sand shield. V3 Susanoo Arrow does much worse, much easier and he's not amassing enough sand to block it in the timeframe it is launched and it arrives. Gaara may have other ways to counter but he's not tanking it.

Gaara needed help against Madara using just v2 Susanoo. Idk why you think he's some anti Susanoo behemoth.

And don't show me Jin Gaara feats.
 
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Gaara wins..
 

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Sasuke releasing Susanoo after using Amaterasu does not mean he had to deactivate. While obito mentioning him using a lot of chakra may or may not have insinuated that Sasuke was shown using Susanoo and Amaterasu in unison against the Raikage. Granite, the scale was younger he still was maniuplating the flames with another technique after. Sasuke was using three mangekyou techniques in that fight and then matured it into its incomplete form.If your simply referring to him using those techniques at the same time causing him to deactivate that also isnt true if you re-read Sasuke was using a diverse moveset to see what would work or at least that's how it appears to be[ ][ ][ ][ ].

Another reason I don't believe that to be the case is Mangekyou Sharingan over usage looks much different and more obvious. This[ ]vs[ ][ ]. In the Second scan with Itachi even after his death the technique fell apart it didn't just vanish.
The Viz scan could say something different but Obito only mentioned the chakra usage but the properties of the technique Danzo was using had not been revealed yet and looks as if its just showing that nothing works. Sasuke never mentioned it as weakness or a problem and Danzo never understood it as an opening of some kind.

Here's your viz translation


Obito blatantly says that using Amaterasu and Susano'o simultaneously is way too much, and Sasuke will exhaust himself. The sfx around Sasuke is "huf" "huf" meaning he's breathing heavy which implies he had exhausted his chakra hence Susano'o being deactivated. No need to go to such extreme lengths to explain what happened.

It's also a futile discussion because Gaara can simply cover or burry Amaterasu with sand to prevent it from heating up the atmosphere to prep Kirin.

Gaara preventing Kirin by blocking the Fireballs Sasuke uses to make it is not happening. First, because Sasuke doesn't have to aim the technique anywhere near Gaara for the clouds to cover the sky above him[ ], and secondly, Sasuke uses his lighting abilities to aim the technique towards where ever and whoever he wishes[ ]. Another thing is your bringing up Gaara with not only the Shukaku but an entire dessert to a thread where he wasn't given that privilege. I ask you what is stopping Sasuke from fighting Gaara in the skies and what makes him such an easy target on the ground? Gaara only has his Gourd sand and his ability to make a small dessert but nothing I can understand to be a huge threat. Whats Gaara's finishing blow?

Lastly, Gaara being unscathed is because he was no where near the explosion[ ].

Sasuke not aiming his Katon at Gaara doesn't make a difference here. Gaara can control sand from anywhere he wants. Having full intel allows Gaara to immediately deduce Sasuke's plan, so he can counter accordingly. Gaara not having Shikaku doesn't make a single difference, he still retained all of his abilities seen throughout the whole manga after the Bijuu was extracted. He can make desert quantities of sand anywhere, as it was stated to be an effortless task for him as a kid.

Sasuke can't compete with Gaara in the sky because Gaara will easily knock him down with Suna Arare, and on the ground Susano'o doesn't protect from the sand underneath Sasuke's feet as seen with Madara.
 
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