My Top 10 excluding boruto movie/manga, the last and featless characters

[NextGenNinja]

vs Naruto easily wins avatars battle, his PS is equal to Kurama, but he also has gedo mazou, outer path chains and mokuton techs, Kurama gets easily overwhelmed. If Naruto somehow forced him out of PS, he still has preta and deva path to defend himself from ninjutsu. Limbo clones helps him in taijutsu.

vs Sasuke it is same story.

Are we just equalizing speed here or something?

I know what you meant. I just thought since he's been lowballing versions of Madara I'd point out one.

Edit: I am really tired. "Sharinnegan" yikes.

Edit 2: Obviously spite thread.

You played me like a fiddle! Imma go Himawari on yo ass!

 

[SeveN797]

Are we just equalizing speed here or something?

Speed is non factor because Madara can end fight with PS, and Naruto can't force him out since he loses avatars battle as i just described. Madara can also switch places with limbo clones so if Naruto cornered him he can easily get out.

If teenage RSM Naruto = teenage rinnegan Sasuke
Then adult Madara with 2 rinnegans logically beats RSM Naruto. He's like Sasuke but with 2 rinnegans, more firepower, stronger avatar and bigger experience.

base naruto stomp 1eye jj madara(without god tree) and its mangafact so

base rsm naruto>1eye jj madara(without god tree)>>>>>JJ Obito

The only reason madara was hit by that lava rs is because he just fought and tanked 8 gates guy, he barerly survived and was still regenerating, so it's not really a feat for Naruto.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto and Sasuke are above Obito and Living Rinnegan Madara.

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. JJ Madara
4. Naruto/Sasuke
5. Sasuke/Naruto
6. Juubito
7. DMS Kakashi
8. Eighth Gate Gai
9. SM Hashirama
10. Nagato

 

[SeveN797]

Naruto and Sasuke are above Obito and Living Rinnegan Madara.

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. JJ Madara
4. Naruto/Sasuke
5. Sasuke/Naruto
6. Juubito
7. DMS Kakashi
8. Eighth Gate Gai
9. SM Hashirama
10. Nagato

Your list is fine, mine would look exact same if i had to list only 1 version of each character, but let's not forget JJ Obito was fighting an entire shinobi world. He beats in 1 v 1 Sasuke or Naruto. Same goes for Madara. 2 Rinnegans Alive Madara is basically stronger version of Rinnegan Sasuke which drew with RSM Naruto.

 

[KidGamer65]

Your list is fine, mine would look exact same if i had to list only 1 version of each character, but let's not forget JJ Obito was fighting an entire shinobi world. He beats in 1 v 1 Sasuke or Naruto. Same goes for Madara. 2 Rinnegans Alive Madara is basically stronger version of Rinnegan Sasuke which drew with RSM Naruto.

The majority of his fight was w/ Naruto, Sasuke, Minato and Tobirama only and he was still having trouble. Naruto and Sasuke were using nowhere close to their full power and they were still overwhelming Madara, who is stronger than Obito. Alive Rinnegan Madara is not a stronger version of Sasuke. One was given half of Hagoromo's power. The other was not. If I included all versions of a character this is what I'd put:

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. JJ Madara
4. Naruto/Sasuke
5. Sasuke/Naruto
6. Dual Rinnegan Madara
7. DMS Kakashi
8. Eighth Gate Gai
9. SM Hashirama/VoTE Madara
10. BSM Naruto

 

[Michael]

Naruto and Sasuke are above Obito and Living Rinnegan Madara.

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. JJ Madara
4. Naruto/Sasuke
5. Sasuke/Naruto
6. Juubito
7. DMS Kakashi
8. Eighth Gate Gai
9. SM Hashirama
10. Nagato

I agree with this however I think SM Hashirama >>> Gai.

 

[SeveN797]

The majority of his fight was w/ Naruto, Sasuke, Minato and Tobirama only and he was still having trouble. Naruto and Sasuke were using nowhere close to their full power and they were still overwhelming Madara, who is stronger than Obito. Alive Rinnegan Madara is not a stronger version of Sasuke. One was given half of Hagoromo's power. The other was not. If I included all versions of a character this is what I'd put:

1. Kaguya
2. Hagoromo
3. JJ Madara
4. Naruto/Sasuke
5. Sasuke/Naruto
6. Dual Rinnegan Madara
7. DMS Kakashi
8. Eighth Gate Gai
9. SM Hashirama/VoTE Madara
10. BSM Naruto

Do you remember how JJ Obito lost tho? Besides main characters, there were a lot of random fodders from Shinobi Alliance that pulled bijuu's of out him. Juubi > Sasuke's or Naruto's avatars, besides it's just how Madara stated

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Juubi Jin with Rinnegan can't lose in 1 v 1 to someone with only half of his power.

About Madara... come on he never actually attacked them besides that one lightning jutsu in the beginning. He was mainly defending himself and checking Naruto's and Sasuke's new abilities. His main goal was to get back his second eye and then cast IT. Once he did that and finally was about to get serious, BZ "saved" team 7.

About Sasuke and Madara "half of Hagoromo's power" which was given to Sasuke was indeed Rinnegan and rikodu chakra, both of this Madara already had.

 

[Boruto Uzumaki]

Do you remember how JJ Obito lost tho? Besides main characters, there were a lot of random fodders from Shinobi Alliance that pulled bijuu's of out him. Juubi > Sasuke's or Naruto's avatars, besides it's just how Madara stated

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Juubi Jin with Rinnegan can't lose in 1 v 1 to someone with only half of his power.

About Madara... come on he never actually attacked them besides that one lightning jutsu in the beginning. He was mainly defending himself and checking Naruto's and Sasuke's new abilities. His main goal was to get back his second eye and then cast IT. Once he did that and finally was about to get serious, BZ "saved" team 7.

About Sasuke and Madara "half of Hagoromo's power" which was given to Sasuke was indeed Rinnegan and rikodu chakra, both of this Madara already had.

You have to be trolling.

 

[SeveN797]

You have to be trolling.

idk what are you talking about

 

[lndra]

Interesting fam

 

[KidGamer65]

Do you remember how JJ Obito lost tho? Besides main characters, there were a lot of random fodders from Shinobi Alliance that pulled bijuu's of out him. Juubi > Sasuke's or Naruto's avatars, besides it's just how Madara stated

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Juubi Jin with Rinnegan can't lose in 1 v 1 to someone with only half of his power.

About Madara... come on he never actually attacked them besides that one lightning jutsu in the beginning. He was mainly defending himself and checking Naruto's and Sasuke's new abilities. His main goal was to get back his second eye and then cast IT. Once he did that and finally was about to get serious, BZ "saved" team 7.

About Sasuke and Madara "half of Hagoromo's power" which was given to Sasuke was indeed Rinnegan and rikodu chakra, both of this Madara already had.

Obito can't summon the Juubi, so whether or not it is better than their Avatars doesn't matter.

Bold is bad logic. Hagoromo gave Naruto and Sasuke half of his chakra. Hence power. Not a single ability. Madara does not have half of Hagoromo's chakra and chakra is what determines how strong someone who relies on Ninjutsu is. RSM Naruto was pressuring Madara before he absorbed the Shinju. Naruto and Sasuke were both pressuring Madara without using anywhere near their full powers. They had a full on skirmish so don't try to make excuses for him. His goal was a fight to see who was the best as the scan you posted clearly states. Then he was getting whooped so he realized he needed his left eye. If his goal was to get his eye back from the very beginning he wouldn't have bothered fighting them.

-Madara attacked w/ Lightning.
-Madara attacked w/ Limbo.
-Madara tried to attack Sasuke directly.

Madara attacked them more times than they attacked him.

And no. Living Madara does not have half of Hagoromo's chakra, so no, he is not a stronger Sasuke. He's a weaker Sasuke.

I agree with this however I think SM Hashirama >>> Gai.

Understandable. If Hashirama's strongest techniques hit Madara he'd be dead, unlike Gai.