How strong was Indra?

[whiteboy2345]

You're the one playing word games. Please point out where he compares them, because I don't see it? If I say giving food to one person ended in a result similar to me giving food to another, that in no way implies both food are the same.

Besides, what you're arguing for goes against Hagoromo's philosophy. He doesn't care about actual power and had literally no reason to give it to Ashura. After saying he gave power to Ashura, he even defined what true power was to him.

The difference is, we already have an example of what he means by "power" on top of that.

here's an imagine of Asura using RSM with KCM

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[Holy God]

The difference is, we already have an example of what he means by "power" on top of that.

Yes, but when talking about Ashura he gave his definition of power directly after. What do you even think he gave him power for? There were no threats nor is it needed for Ninja Religion.

here's an imagine of Asura using RSM with KCM

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First of all, Ashura was not using Nine Tails Chakra Mode, made obvious by the fact he was never a host nor did his avatar have Kurama's face. Second of all, what's the point of this? Everyone knows Ashura has Six Paths Sage Chakra.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Yes, but when talking about Ashura he gave his definition of power directly after. What do you even think he gave him power for? There were no threats nor is it needed for Ninja Religion.



First of all, Ashura was not using Nine Tails Chakra Mode, made obvious by the fact he was never a host nor did his avatar have Kurama's face. Second of all, what's the point of this? Everyone knows Ashura has Six Paths Sage Chakra.

I don't know why the **** Hagoromo gave Asura power. He clearly said he left everything to Asura, he clearly trusted the mfer enough to give him Ninshuu.

Six Path's Sage Chakra was clearly given to him by his father, look at those ****ing TSB's

 

[Holy God]

I don't know why the **** Hagoromo gave Asura power. He clearly said he left everything to Asura, he clearly trusted the mfer enough to give him Ninshuu.

1. Hagoromo doesn't care about power
2. Hagoromo has no reason to give Ashura power
3. Ashura was already equal to Indra and yet after Hagoromo "left everything" to him, he didn't get any stronger

Not only is all the logic against you, but you have no evidence right now. I don't understand why you're arguing in the first place.

Six Path's Sage Chakra was clearly given to him by his father, look at those ****ing TSB's

So because he has Six Paths Sage chakra it had to come from Hagoromo? Would you like to tell me where Hagoromo and Hamura got their Six Paths Sage chakra and Truth-Seeking Spheres? The only answer is genetically. That is the bodily power that rivals Indra's eye power, as depicted in that scan you posted.

 

[Uzumaki sensei]

You're going to ignore the manga scans I showed in the thread? He makes it quite clear he left power to Asura and left that same power to Naruto and Sasuke. The power he left was not Ninshuu. You're so ****ing fanboyish that it's pathetic. Accept when a scan isn't in your favor and move on with life.

but in your scan it says that through training he awakend his bodily power rivaling his brother the anime mesed it up since it showed the sage giving hi power to ashura

 

[NarutoX28]

I honestly disagree with the premise of Ashura having Rikudou Sage Mode based on the fact that Indra never awakened a Rikudou Power and both were stated to be equals. It'd be ludicrous for Indra to have been his equal while Ashura wielded a far superior power. I also made a theory on Ashura's Mode here:

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If anybody's interested. My belief is that it's a manifestation of Ashura's chakra like Indra's is which happens to resemble Naruto's Bijuu Mode since Ashura/Indra are explicitly stated to parallel Naruto/Indra.

 

[whiteboy2345]

I honestly disagree with the premise of Ashura having Rikudou Sage Mode based on the fact that Indra never awakened a Rikudou Power and both were stated to be equals. It'd be ludicrous for Indra to have been his equal while Ashura wielded a far superior power. I also made a theory on Ashura's Mode here:

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If anybody's interested. My belief is that it's a manifestation of Ashura's chakra like Indra's is which happens to resemble Naruto's Bijuu Mode since Ashura/Indra are explicitly stated to parallel Naruto/Indra.

Maybe the fact that Hagoromo said he gave Asura his power will solve the little mystery you seem to be having.

 

[NarutoX28]

Maybe the fact that Hagoromo said he gave Asura his power will solve the little mystery you seem to be having.

There's no mystery. Ashura only received Hagoromo's Yang as stated, so he never had Rikudou Sage Mode.

 

[whiteboy2345]

There's no mystery. Ashura only received Hagoromo's Yang as stated, so he never had Rikudou Sage Mode.

hagoromo states he gave Asura power, and then we have a scan of TSB's. I think the mystery of yours is solved. Honestly, I understand why you think it's unreasonable that Indra would tie with Asura if Asura had RSM, but it's quite obvious that either Kishi forgot, didn't care, or actually wanted Indra to be perceived as that strong.

 

[NarutoX28]

hagoromo states he gave Asura power, and then we have a scan of TSB's. I think the mystery of yours is solved. Honestly, I understand why you think it's unreasonable that Indra would tie with Asura if Asura had RSM, but it's quite obvious that either Kishi forgot, didn't care, or actually wanted Indra to be perceived as that strong.

We actually have no idea whether or not they're TSB.

It's unrealistic not because Indra could stalemate Ashura with a Rikudou's power, but the fact that somehow, Ashura's chakra is equivalent to Indra's despite the fact that only Ashura's had greater potential by awakening a Six Paths power that Indra could never do. That's literally illogical. The only way to ameliorate this is by adhering to the notion that Hagoromo did give power to Ashura, but that would contradict Hagoromo's assertion about Ashura gaining the same power as Indra.

The only thing that remotely makes sense is that his Avatar isn't RSM, but a manifestation of his chakra in the same way that Susano'o is for its user.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Just forget about it. This manga is in complete messed up. Thts wht happen when the author dont know how to write a story. He made many contradiction. For whiteboy, this thread is pointless as you doesnt know the story behind it.

For the 'power' part. Whether Hago will gives Sasuke his power or not to equal Naruto, he still will bestow his power to Sasuke bcus they need his power to fight JJ Madara and Kaguya and Hago know Sasuke is weaker than Indra.

 

[Tyris]

Strong enough to solo nations and Ashura until their last fight AFTER daddy/Hago gave Ashura handouts

He was strong enough to dominate anyone bar his father who was strongest at the time. Until his father gave his powers to his lil brother Ashura.

 

[darthvader5666]

Somewhere between EMS Madara/Hashirama and Juubito probably.