Who was more valuable?

[whiteboy2345]

Expendable, Same difference. Either way kurama isn't on the expandable list while the entirely of the the uchiha clan is. That alone makes the kurama more valuable than the clan. End of story.

Your tryna dance around manga fact as if it hasn't already happened. For over a decade there were no notable uchiha members in the leaf. Can't say the same about kurama tho.

Removing something doesn't mean it's expendable or disposable. Dude, an arm isn't expendable or disposable, you don't regrow one once it's amputated but if it's a problem it has to be removed.

You're lost.

 

[Styles]

It was both no one more than the other. They needed Sasuke in case Kurama(Naruto) go rampant but by other villages a jin are more valuable due to military power.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Mate the clan may only seem expandable because they orchestrated a coupe against them and only stopped because using own members against each other.

Konoha was willing to kill all of them outright if necessary. They didn't have to rely on itachi for that. Even when kurama went on a rampage and actually did something detrimental to konoha they still knew that kurama holds its worth. even at 50% it's still holds its value.

Nothing in the manga indicates the same for 1 measly clan.

Removing something doesn't mean it's expendable or disposable. Dude, an arm isn't expendable or disposable, you don't regrow one once it's amputated but if it's a problem it has to be removed.

You're lost.

ex·pend·a·ble
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adjective
of little significance when compared to an overall purpose, and therefore able to be abandoned.

Semantics? semantics.

I'll spell it out for you :

The uchiha clan is of little significance when compared to the overall worth or purpose of konoha, and therefore able to be (and was mind you) abandoned.

You can't switch out uchiha with kurama in that sentence because the manga literally stated otherwise.

EDIT: Fyi arms and legs are expendable. When it comes to keeping the body warms and alive in extreme cold they are the first to go.

 

[Prometheus 2000]

It was both no one more than the other. They needed Sasuke in case Kurama(Naruto) go rampant but by other villages a jin are more valuable due to military power.

That's literally something you made up. Sasuke was only alive as a favor to Itachi via Hizuren. Controlling Kurama's power isn't something that's common, especially considering there was a chance Sasuke wouldn't be capable of activating a Sharingan.

 

[whiteboy2345]

That's literally something you made up. Sasuke was only alive as a favor to Itachi via Hizuren. Controlling Kurama's power isn't something that's common, especially considering there was a chance Sasuke wouldn't be capable of activating a Sharingan.

Even if Sasuke doesn't do it he can still revive his clan, making more Sharingan users, which are a serious military asset.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Konoha was willing to kill all of them outright if necessary. They didn't have to rely on itachi for that. Even when kurama went on a rampage and actually did something detrimental to konoha they still knew that kurama holds its worth. even at 50% it's still holds its value.

Nothing in the manga indicates the same for 1 measly clan.



ex·pend·a·ble
ikˈspendəb(ə)l/Submit
adjective
of little significance when compared to an overall purpose, and therefore able to be abandoned.

Semantics? semantics.

I'll spell it out for you :

The uchiha clan is of little significance when compared to the overall worth or purpose of konoha, and therefore able to be (and was mind you) abandoned.

You can't switch out uchiha with kurama in that sentence because the manga literally stated otherwise.

EDIT: Fyi arms and legs are expendable. When it comes to keeping the body warms and alive in extreme cold they are the first to go.

They couldn't handle the Uchiha without Itachi, trust me. Obito would have gotten involved one way or another, and God knows which side he would have chosen without Itachi asking for help. Even Hiruzen felt like the Uchiha couldn't be handled that easily, which was why Danzo suggested attacking them all in their sleep with his best ANBU

Also, even if we were to consider the Uchiha expendable, so is Naruto. If the village can survive without Naruto which it can, Naruto is also expendable.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Naruto can't be replaced, Sasuke can be replaced by goading him on to have more kids. Remember, Obito a non-incarnate controlled a perfect Jinchuriki.

Uzumaki's won't dare reveal themselves in fear of what happened to their village, they'll probably get kidnapped.

Your logic is flawed Naruto having a child can be a jinc too
Sasuke child isn't guaranteed to posses the shairingan to control Kurama

 

[BenjerminGaye]

They couldn't handle the Uchiha without Itachi, trust me. Obito would have gotten involved one way or another, and God knows which side he would have chosen without Itachi asking for help. Even Hiruzen felt like the Uchiha couldn't be handled that easily, which was why Danzo suggested attacking them all in their sleep with his best ANBU

Also, even if we were to consider the Uchiha expendable, so is Naruto. If the village can survive without Naruto which it can, Naruto is also expendable.

I trust the manga, and it says otherwise:

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The only thing that kept sasuke alive was his ignorance.

Naruto has kurama therefore as before they'll do everything to keep him.

 

[Styles]

That's literally something you made up. Sasuke was only alive as a favor to Itachi via Hizuren. Controlling Kurama's power isn't something that's common, especially considering there was a chance Sasuke wouldn't be capable of activating a Sharingan.

Something i made up yet Sasuke had Sharingan at age 8 and again at 13. How is Sasuke not gonna have Sharingan? If Naruto went rampant who would be able to tame Kurama? Kakashi?
Sasuke was also kept alive due to Itachi killing his clan and not siding with them. He just went to Hiruzen to ask to protect Sasuke from Danzo. The fact that the Uchiha tablet says they can control Kurama says it all.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Fact is Konoha is aware that sharingan can control tailed beasts. Still killed off the uchiha clan.

Konoha also knows the destruction kurama can and did bring. Still keeps kurama around in any capacity no matter what.


Naruto is worth far more in the eyes of the village.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Fact is Konoha is aware that sharingan can control tailed beasts. Still killed off the uchiha clan.

Konoha also knows the destruction kurama can and did bring. Still keeps kurama around in any capacity no matter what.


Naruto is worth far more in the eyes of the village.

Well, what would you rather, a clan of people you treated like shit for generations getting control of the beast? Or a little dumbass kid who you've brainwashed thoroughly with the Will Of Fire being in possession of it.

You come back and tell me once you've got your answer.

 

[1Told]

Naruto + Kurama of course, best weapon for a village was their jinchuriki.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Well, what would you rather, a clan of people you treated like shit for generations getting control of the beast? Or a little dumbass kid who you've brainwashed thoroughly with the Will Of Fire being in possession of it.

You come back and tell me once you've got your answer.

i know what konoha would rather have. :bdpf::bdpf:

And as long as i'm loving to naruto he'll be able to control kurama.

 

[Warlocks]

It was both no one more than the other. They needed Sasuke in case Kurama(Naruto) go rampant but by other villages a jin are more valuable due to military power.

what where did u got this from :lol
Sasuke was only alive cuz Itachi/ Third Hokage/danzo otherwise he would've been killed and u know that too

 

[BenjerminGaye]

what where did u got this from :lol
Sasuke was only alive cuz Itachi/ Third Hokage/danzo otherwise he would've been killed and u know that too

fanboys out here rewriting the manga.

 

[Prometheus 2000]

Something i made up yet Sasuke had Sharingan at age 8 and again at 13. How is Sasuke not gonna have Sharingan? If Naruto went rampant who would be able to tame Kurama? Kakashi?
Sasuke was also kept alive due to Itachi killing his clan and not siding with them. He just went to Hiruzen to ask to protect Sasuke from Danzo. The fact that the Uchiha tablet says they can control Kurama says it all.

Look at what you said previously....

They needed Sasuke in case Kurama(Naruto) go rampant

So why is this important when Itachi was literally the only person who was aware that Sasuke activated his Sharingan? Do you really think they depended on Sasuke to somehow control Naruto when there was a chance he wouldn't active it? It makes no sense to me.

There's a reason Madara's noteworthy in legend besides his power. It's because a standard Sharingan (which to their knowledge is the best Sasuke would have) generally doesn't have the power to control Bijuu.

So how were they equally important when one of them was a gamble compared to the success rate of Uzumaki Jinchuriki?

 

[Jiren]

Konoha was willing to kill all of them outright if necessary. They didn't have to rely on itachi for that. Even when kurama went on a rampage and actually did something detrimental to konoha they still knew that kurama holds its worth. even at 50% it's still holds its value.

Nothing in the manga indicates the same for 1 measly clan.



ex·pend·a·ble
ikˈspendəb(ə)l/Submit
adjective
of little significance when compared to an overall purpose, and therefore able to be abandoned.

Semantics? semantics.

I'll spell it out for you :

The uchiha clan is of little significance when compared to the overall worth or purpose of konoha, and therefore able to be (and was mind you) abandoned.

You can't switch out uchiha with kurama in that sentence because the manga literally stated otherwise.

EDIT: Fyi arms and legs are expendable. When it comes to keeping the body warms and alive in extreme cold they are the first to go.

Konoha wouldn't have killed uchiha so easily. He threatened itachi with the reality of the situation would lead to another thus Uchiha clan would have died eventually with so many marks on their back. Without itachi and shisui they would have no lead or leverage against the uchiha. Or even realize it would have happened. Without uchihas on konoha side the massacre wouldn't have even happened.

It's just as I said a military asset is only as good as it can be controlled. They could no longer control the clan and that made them expendable nothing more or less

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Well, what would you rather, a clan of people you treated like shit for generations getting control of the beast? Or a little dumbass kid who you've brainwashed thoroughly with the Will Of Fire being in possession of it.

You come back and tell me once you've got your answer.

Will of fire >>>> The uchiha clan's entire existence.

:salt::salt:

 

[whiteboy2345]

Will of fire >>>> The uchiha clan's entire existence.

:salt::salt:

lol an ideology that murdered innocent kids, prob babies too and u love it

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Konoha wouldn't have killed uchiha so easily. He threatened itachi with the reality of the situation would lead to another thus Uchiha clan would have died eventually with so many marks on their back. Without itachi and shisui they would have no lead or leverage against the uchiha. Or even realize it would have happened. Without uchihas on konoha side the massacre wouldn't have even happened.

It's just as I said a military asset is only as good as it can be controlled. They could no longer control the clan and that made them expendable nothing more or less

-_-

1)shisui was already dead at that point, and the coup was going forward with or without itachi.
2)They didn't need any leverage. It was gonna be hiruzen danzo and the blacks ops, that's it. End of clan.

like seriously, here's a link to chapter 590 its even the vis version:

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After taking shisui's eye danzo gave itachi an ultimatum:

die with your clan or kill your clan and save sasuke. Either way the clan was gonna die. Meaning their not as valuble as you or sasukefapboy2345 make them out to be. Especially sasuke, since at the best he is only seen as collateral damage