All these trans Veteran....

[Nagi]

All these trans Veteran are going off on the internet talking about they served and all.


well, they left out one thing, that majority of them served as a male! A lot of them got their *** change after they served!

So really, their comments are irrelevant!​

 

[Multiply]

How is what they were when they served relevant? They are still a human whether they consider themselves male or female. They have done more for their country than you ever will so grow up and stop worrying about what other people call themselves.

 

[uhmusddy]

That scene in your sig was such a good moment

 

[Nagi]

How is what they were when they served relevant? They are still a human whether they consider themselves male or female. They have done more for their country than you ever will so grow up and stop worrying about what other people call themselves.

They wasn't drugged up or all in their emotions when they carried their friends across the field. transgenders tends to be on hormones shots. So if them hormones shots gonna stop you from carrying 275 pounds across the field in the heat of the moment, I just can't trust you with my life.

 

[Multiply]

They wasn't drugged up or all in their emotions when they carried their friends across the field. transgenders tends to be on hormones shots. So if them hormones shots gonna stop you from carrying 275 pounds across the field in the heat of the moment, I just can't trust you with my life.

How often do you think 275 people are getting carried across a battlefield? How many people on a battlefield do you think are even authorized to do that? You haven't commented on the fact that they are still decorated veterans and that it is irrelevant what their gender is or was.

 

[LeviAckerman]

Honestly, I feel that this should be a military affair, not a civilian one. If the Military thinks trans are a hindrance, then we should take their say on the subject. Similarly if they said that trans are good soldiers and contribute to the units.

 

[Nagi]

How often do you think 275 people are getting carried across a battlefield? How many people on a battlefield do you think are even authorized to do that? You haven't commented on the fact that they are still decorated veterans and that it is irrelevant what their gender is or was.

If you're kool with somebody, who is fighting with identity crises and is drugged up, watching your back, then okay. As long it won't affect their performance, no problem. But we all know that a lot of them be asking for special treatments. One of the problems is that there are some people joining just to get free *** change, then find a way to get discharged. I guess that's no different from other people joining to go to college for free after!


At this point, I no longer care anymore. USA is going to hell anyway.

 

[Belserion]

I don't think Trans people who are in progress of changing their gender should be in the military.

 

[Joon]

Honestly, I feel that this should be a military affair, not a civilian one. If the Military thinks trans are a hindrance, then we should take their say on the subject. Similarly, if they said that trans are good soldiers and contribute to the units.

General Mattis wanted to review the subject, but Trump has already made his decision.


If Trans people think it is unlawful (discrimination), then they should take it up with the courts.

 

[Lightbringer]

So you're saying a man without a penis can't shoot straight, operate a vehicle, or perform field surgery?

 

[Nagi]

General Mattis wanted to review the subject, but Trump has already made his decision.


If Trans people think it is unlawful (discrimination), then they should take it up with the courts.

Trump ain't smart enough to thought this up. Somebody put the draft on his desk and throw a bunch of numbers at him. He just simply said yes and tweet about it. This is one of the reasons why he was placed in the office. He just don't give a shit about what people think of him.

So you're saying a man without a penis can't shoot straight, operate a vehicle, or perform field surgery?

That's is stupid. Nowhere in my OP or any of my comments, I said any of those things. Transgenders people are always conflicted with something. I just don't want that to be the reason why the mission failed. But if they can do all those things with no problem, then go ahead and protect this country!

 

[Joon]

Trump ain't smart enough to thought this up. Somebody put the draft on his desk and throw a bunch of numbers at him. He just simply said yes and tweet about it. This is one of the reasons why he was placed in the office. He just don't give a shit about what people think of him.



That's is stupid. Nowhere in my OP or any of my comments, I said any of those things. Transgenders people are always conflicted with something. I just don't want that to be the reason why the mission failed. But if they can do all those things with no problem, then go ahead and protect this country!

Of course Trump is stupid. It was that F'ker Mike Pence. He is more dangerous than Trump.

 

[Lightbringer]

Trump ain't smart enough to thought this up. Somebody put the draft on his desk and throw a bunch of numbers at him. He just simply said yes and tweet about it. This is one of the reasons why he was placed in the office. He just don't give a shit about what people think of him.



That's is stupid. Nowhere in my OP or any of my comments, I said any of those things. Transgenders people are always conflicted with something. I just don't want that to be the reason why the mission failed. But if they can do all those things with no problem, then go ahead and protect this country!

You didn't? So then what's the problem? If they can shoot straight, operate vehicles, and perform field surgery, then pretty sure they're capable of being in the military.

@Bold: Do you have any evidence that proves every transgender person is always conflicted with something that would potentially jeopardize a mission?

Are you suggesting that only transgender people are conflicted with something and no one else?

 

[Nagi]

You didn't? So then what's the problem? If they can shoot straight, operate vehicles, and perform field surgery, then pretty sure they're capable of being in the military.

@Bold: Do you have any evidence that proves every transgender person is always conflicted with something that would potentially jeopardize a mission?

Are you suggesting that only transgender people are conflicted with something and no one else?

Well, blame the media for pointing out that transgender people are always conflicted with their identity. Unless, we have research prove that their conflicting mode is the same as other people's conflicting mode, People are gonna follow what the media be pointing out about them.

But as I said before, as long they can do their duty and not ask for special treatment, I got no problem with them.

 

[Lightbringer]

Well, blame the media for pointing out that transgender people are always conflicted with their identity. Unless, we have research prove that their conflicting mode is the same as other people's conflicting mode, People are gonna follow what the media be pointing out about them.

But as I said before, as long they can do their duty and not ask for special treatment, I got no problem with them.

But you just cited what the media said as a source for your argument.....

From what I'm aware, no one's asking for special treatment other than to serve their country.

 

[-Punk-]

They remind me of Quagmire's dad

 

[Multiply]

If you're kool with somebody, who is fighting with identity crises and is drugged up, watching your back, then okay. As long it won't affect their performance, no problem. But we all know that a lot of them be asking for special treatments. One of the problems is that there are some people joining just to get free *** change, then find a way to get discharged. I guess that's no different from other people joining to go to college for free after!


At this point, I no longer care anymore. USA is going to hell anyway.

So you're just assuming what will happen... What about the few thousand that are already in that aren't asking for special treatment? What happens with them? I have no problem with anyone as long as they do their job and complete the mission.

I don't think Trans people who are in progress of changing their gender should be in the military.

Why? I don't see why we can't treat them like anyone else getting surgery or any woman that is pregnant. Make them unable to deploy right before their surgery and after to give them enough time to heal. Before and after that time period as long as their work ethic and ability to work are up to standard and they are able to complete the mission, I have no problem serving with them.

 

[Belserion]

So you're just assuming what will happen... What about the few thousand that are already in that aren't asking for special treatment? What happens with them? I have no problem with anyone as long as they do their job and complete the mission.


Why? I don't see why we can't treat them like anyone else getting surgery or any woman that is pregnant. Make them unable to deploy right before their surgery and after to give them enough time to heal. Before and after that time period as long as their work ethic and ability to work are up to standard and they are able to complete the mission, I have no problem serving with them.

There is nothing wrong with being transgender. You didn't understand my intention. I simply Highlighted the fact that such a progress of changing your *** isn't as easy as most people make it out to be. It can limit your physical capablities, something you shouldn't lose or get bad at while you're out there.

I have a friend who undergoes this process now for 3 years. And He said that the pills he has to take are limiting his physical capablities. He suffers from memory loss and I've noticed a decrease in physical activity(he was never that type to do workouts anyway but he has gotten weaker).

I just simply based my opinion on what I have witnessed myself.

 

[Pyro NB]

If they can do their jobs I'm fine with them being by my side also idk what you are using for references because out of the 1% of the pop that serves only about 60% of it gets deployed to a combat area and out of that 60% only about 10% actually see's combat. There are also a lot of men in the infantry now who couldn't drag their brothers out of a fire fight as it is :/

 

[kimb]

So you're saying a man without a penis can't shoot straight, operate a vehicle, or perform field surgery?

So youre saying transgender women are nothing more than men without penises?