SRA Naruto & Sasuke vs Kimimaro

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Not even close

Sasuke was ragdolled by that attack and recuperated relatively quickly, so likely not.

What's the mininum level of chakra arm would be able to accomplish said example? v4-bsm?
- by sweep that could include expanding the hand and/or into a giant fist to clear a path way

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im a biased guy.

I can respect that.

kimmi isn't surviving it tho. That's the point. You're making it seem as if chidori isn't set up to be a 1 hit kill move. As long as it lands anywhere in kimmi's chest its imminent death and the first scenario he doesn't wanna kill sasuke, even if he does then he still has a hole in his chest when fighting naruto.

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Naruto got hit in the chest and didn't die because Sasuke missed his heart. That means that the same would happen to Kimi meaning that Sasuke needs to hit Kimi's heart or else he'd be wide open to a counter attack.

that was cm1 kimmi and again that lee is farr slower than sasuke or naruto. If he considers that impressive then sasuke ends him.

That's not proof that "Sasuke ends him" with speed though. You have given no reason as to why Kimi can't deal with his speed besides him saying Lee's speed is impressive but again Kimi noting such doesn't mean that Kimi can't deal with the speed(he canonly did). So what do you have that actually suggest he can't deal with Sasuke's speed outside of the comment about Lee upon which he easily reacted to?

that's a weak excuse since cm1 kimmi reacted to him easily.

So Kimi ignoring Lee is a "weak excuse" for why Lee got behind him? Makes sense.
 

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What's the mininum level of chakra arm would be able to accomplish said example? v4-bsm?
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KN4 probably.
 

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I can respect that.



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Naruto got hit in the chest and didn't die because Sasuke missed his heart. That means that the same would happen to Kimi meaning that Sasuke needs to hit Kimi's heart or else he'd be wide open to a counter attack.

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Naruto couldn't even breathe properly after getting hit and unlike naruto he isn't healing that. And this is assuming sasuke misses the heart. Top it off with the fact that sasuke can simple reactivate chidori while his hand is in kimmi chest causing paralysis :
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it doesn't really matter. A hole in the chest means you're at death's door. Unless you have a way for kimmi suvise and beat naruto with said hole.

That's not proof that "Sasuke ends him" with speed though. You have given no reason as to why Kimi can't deal with his speed besides him saying Lee's speed is impressive but again Kimi noting such doesn't mean that Kimi can't deal with the speed(he canonly did). So what do you have that actually suggest he can't deal with Sasuke's speed outside of the comment about Lee upon which he easily reacted to?
It is though if lee's speed was impressive enough for him to comment, then sasuke who at that point is already leaps and bounds faster even in base only widens the gap. Add to the fact that sasuke has 3 tome sharingan to read kimmi's movements, and curse mark to bolster his speed even further beyond what he considered "impressive" then yeah such a gulf in speed will end him since it's already far above what he considered "impressive speed".





So Kimi ignoring Lee is a "weak excuse" for why Lee got behind him? Makes sense.

yeah its a weak excuse, ignoring your opponent? Pathetic.
Combine that with the fact that that was kimmi at his 'supposed' strongest vs a lee who is still suffering from the side effects of the first gate? Even more pathetic.
Then you have gaara's sand still being able to intercept kimmi's counter attack on lee where ast before it couldnt touch him? Yeah he slowed down.
 

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He can´t defeat them combined at same time, make it a elemination gauntlet and he can win.
 

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Naruto couldn't even breathe properly after getting hit and unlike naruto he isn't healing that. And this is assuming sasuke misses the heart. Top it off with the fact that sasuke can simple reactivate chidori while his hand is in kimmi chest causing paralysis :
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it doesn't really matter. A hole in the chest means you're at death's door. Unless you have a way for kimmi suvise and beat naruto with said hole.

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Kimi has his own healing factor to help him out and to add to it Kimi was fighting based on pure will power alone depsite being on his death bed hooked up to a crapload of machines and to take it a step further Kimi doesn't need to use handseals in order to use his bones either. If Sasuke misses Kimi's heart then Kimi is gonna be able to get a wide open shot whereas Sasuke won't expect it.

It is though if lee's speed was impressive enough for him to comment, then sasuke who at that point is already leaps and bounds faster even in base only widens the gap. Add to the fact that sasuke has 3 tome sharingan to read kimmi's movements, and curse mark to bolster his speed even further beyond what he considered "impressive" then yeah such a gulf in speed will end him since it's already far above what he considered "impressive speed".

So far you have yet again failed to provide that Sasuke's speed would be good enough. You're entire logic relies on his comment on Lee's speed to suggest he would have a problem but you won't accept the flaw that said comment doesn't mean he can't deal with that speed. The guy said "hey you're fast" and then easily stopped Lee. That's all there was to it so Sasuke being faster doesn't outright mean that Kimi can't react to it. Part one Kakashi commented on Sasuke's taijutsu skill (before the Chunin exams) so I guess he can't deal with Lee's Taijutsu skills amiright? Lol flawed logic is flawed.


yeah its a weak excuse, ignoring your opponent? Pathetic.
Combine that with the fact that that was kimmi at his 'supposed' strongest vs a lee who is still suffering from the side effects of the first gate? Even more pathetic.
Then you have gaara's sand still being able to intercept kimmi's counter attack on lee where ast before it couldnt touch him? Yeah he slowed down.

So basically it was never stated that Kimi slowed down and your only "evidence" is Lee getting behind him but you don't like the fact that Kimi ignored Lee so you brush it off. Lol ok
 
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lol no. if gaara's slow ass dodged it then sasuke in v2 with 3t sharingan is dodging it.

How is Sasuke dodging it? He can't fly. How are either of them dodging a massive AOE attack that covers the whole battlefield?
 
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Kimi has his own healing factor to help him out and to add to it Kimi was fighting based on pure will power alone depsite being on his death bed hooked up to a crapload of machines and to take it a step further Kimi doesn't need to use handseals in order to use his bones either. If Sasuke misses Kimi's heart then Kimi is gonna be able to get a wide open shot whereas Sasuke won't expect it.
kimmi pulling out his own bones isn't a healing factor. -_-



So far you have yet again failed to provide that Sasuke's speed would be good enough. You're entire logic relies on his comment on Lee's speed to suggest he would have a problem but you won't accept the flaw that said comment doesn't mean he can't deal with that speed. The guy said "hey you're fast" and then easily stopped Lee. That's all there was to it so Sasuke being faster doesn't outright mean that Kimi can't react to it. Part one Kakashi commented on Sasuke's taijutsu skill (before the Chunin exams) so I guess he can't deal with Lee's Taijutsu skills amiright? Lol flawed logic is flawed.

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-_- stop it guy. Being drunk doesn't make rock lee faster yet his speed was always a problem for kimmi if it was well within kimi's threshold the it wouldn't make a difference how he fought, but because kimmi considers lee( a slow lee mind you) fast all throughout an unorthodox style screws him over. Sasuke who's far faster and can read movements ends him.

more over he's too fast

Sasuke's leagues faster than that.




So basically it was never stated that Kimi slowed down and your only "evidence" is Lee getting behind him but you don't like the fact that Kimi ignored Lee so you brush it off. Lol ok
Lee getting behind him is evidence enough, you can't take the fact that it happened so you try brush it off with "kimmi ignored him"

How is Sasuke dodging it? He can't fly. How are either of them dodging a massive AOE attack that covers the whole battlefield?

Cm2 lets sasuke fly -_- Its by no means fast if garra one of the slowest in part 1 reacted.
 

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kimmi pulling out his own bones isn't a healing factor. -_-

Did you not look at the scan? You can see that Kimi's skin was split open and it healed itself, Naruto even comments on it.

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-_- stop it guy. Being drunk doesn't make rock lee faster yet his speed was always a problem for kimmi if it was well within kimi's threshold the it wouldn't make a difference how he fought, but because kimmi considers lee( a slow lee mind you) fast all throughout an unorthodox style screws him over. Sasuke who's far faster and can read movements ends him.

more over he's too fast

Sasuke's leagues faster than that.

I'll use what you just said, "Being drunk doesn't make rock lee faster". Since that's true then why is it that when Lee is sober Kimi can causally react to Lee and Lee can't land a hit on Kimi to save his life but Lee can land hits when drunk? It's because Lee's unorthodox is hard to keep up with. It's just like with Killer B vs Sasuke, Sasuke got overwhelmed by Killer B using his acrobat fighting style but Sasuke could easily dodge the faster V1 B. Why is that? Because the latter was linear and easier to read as oppose to the former.

In case you forgot Sasuke doesn't have an unorthodox fighting style, he's pretty linear just like Lee is(who he copied his Taijutsu from) thus Kimi wouldn't have problems with it.


Lee getting behind him is evidence enough, you can't take the fact that it happened so you try brush it off with "kimmi ignored him"

I accept your concession from your dishonesty
 

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Well, Drunken Lee is definitely faster than sober Lee if Drunken Lee's movements are considered "too fast," when that was never suggested to be the case before.

Drunken Lee isn't as fast as 3T CS Sasuke, but obviously reacting to Lee's Taijutsu is drastically different to responding to 3T CS Sasuke's speedy assaults. It's no different than Bee's Acrobatics being a stark contrast to V1 Bee's faster attacks where even Bee's Acrobatics are arguably more difficult to handle despite being slower.
 

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Ben went in.

Sasuke Solos this fight with 3 tomoe alone he already reacted and dodged KN0 speed blitz kimmi is no where near that fast striking wise.

Katons may not kill but he still feels pain and chidori can end this
 

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Did you not look at the scan? You can see that Kimi's skin was split open and it healed itself, Naruto even comments on it.

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Sure fam cuz every instance of a ninja reclosing their skin is a healing factor right? I mean look at kakazu:
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I mean his skin opened entire beasts came out and not just a bone. Then i closed so therefore he healed right? :kk:

Lets look at another ninja: hidan got his head chopped off, and got stabbed in the leg yet can move freely while asuma hobbles. Shurely he has a healing factor as well correct?

:lmao: :kk:


Or the entire hozuki clan: They can deform and reform their entire body into water they too must have a healing factor :lmao:

I mean let's be dumbasses and take naruto's words (who knows jack shit about kekkei genkai) as facts. Lets put kimimaro and his entire clan in the same ranks as the Hashirama, sakura, and tsunade. As those that heal without seals. That's the smart thing to do. Or we can look at it the same way we do all the aforementioned ppl i listed and see that's it's clearly a byproduct of their jutsu/kekkei genkai.





I'll use what you just said, "Being drunk doesn't make rock lee faster". Since that's true then why is it that when Lee is sober Kimi can causally react to Lee and Lee can't land a hit on Kimi to save his life but Lee can land hits when drunk? It's because Lee's unorthodox is hard to keep up with. It's just like with Killer B vs Sasuke, Sasuke got overwhelmed by Killer B using his acrobat fighting style but Sasuke could easily dodge the faster V1 B. Why is that? Because the latter was linear and easier to read as oppose to the former.

In case you forgot Sasuke doesn't have an unorthodox fighting style, he's pretty linear just like Lee is(who he copied his Taijutsu from) thus Kimi wouldn't have problems with it.
yet sasuke still got his chest blown open. Having an unorthodox style won't mean jack shit when the gulf in speed is too big. Instead of comparing sasuke and keller b u should compare itachi and killer b.




I accept your concession from your dishonesty

sound logic begets sound logic.
 
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Ben went in.

Sasuke Solos this fight with 3 tomoe alone he already reacted and dodged KN0 speed blitz kimmi is no where near that fast striking wise.

Katons may not kill but he still feels pain and chidori can end this

lol @ bold

Are we forgetting Kimmi was casually stomping thousands of KN0 Naruto's now?

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Cm2 lets sasuke fly -_- Its by no means fast if garra one of the slowest in part 1 reacted.

Sasuke flies up in the air and gets smacked down by this:

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why would he fly in the yet stay in range? hes not a dumbass like garra.

Gaara didn't know he could travel through his bones and Part 1 CM 2 sasuke can't fly.
 
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