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100% Kyūbi no Yōko Jinchuuriki EMS Madara. Kyūbi no Yōko is friendly with Madara and can enter BM just like naruto's. Can this version of Madara beat Sasuke ?
VOTE madara (with a twist) vs rinnegan sasuke
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Sasuke wins. Very high diff
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Sasuke loses without the Bijuu no matter what Rikudo BS excuse people try to make. PS is already on par w/ 100% Kurama Avatar, now Madara has both as an Avatar and Kurama's power greatly enhances his own, including his PS. Sasuke doesn't have the firepower to contend with that.
Adult would win.
Adult would win.
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Since you seem to be the only one with common sense is this site, I'll be happy to address your message.
- Shouldn't a PS buffed by the Rinnegan and Hagoromo chakra be superior to one buffed by just Kyūbi no Yōko ?
- What about CT ? Nagato's was the size of multiple mountains, and Sasuke's should (logically) be able to make more, and bigger.
- In CQC how does Madara counter Ameno ?
- And finally what about preta path ?
(and yes sasuke doesn't have the bijju here and he is teen)
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Sasuke wins High difficulty though the fight might be closer than you think.
A PS amplified by Six Paths chakra is superior to EMS Madara's PS and by a margin as was shown. Naruto's avatar was amplified by that Six Paths chakra as well during their final fight. Madara's PS would be amplified by 100% Kurama in addition to coating that avatar with his PS though without Six Paths chakra which makes a huge difference, I'm unsure how strong it'll be in comparison. 50% Non-Six Paths chakra cloak was able to amplify the abilities of the SA by quite a bit too so I imagine 100% Kurama as the Jinchuuriki might be comparable to Six Paths chakra.
Difference here is that Sasuke could use some of his powers through PS which include Ameno and Chidori. Madara with his PS Kurama avatar could still charge up TBBs more powerful than the ones from the VOTE fight since a Jinchuuriki is superior to a Bijuu on it's own. I doubt the avatar Madara will have would be able to react to Sasuke's PS teleporting behind him and using Chidori for the penetration since Madara's own foot speed would benefit from BM cloak but his avatar won't have that speed.
Hand to hand combat. Even with BM, I still believe Sasuke would be faster since his speed was on par with that of a Juubi Jin which is superior to BM's speed. In addition to his teleportation and striking speed.
To counter Preta Path, Madara would have to rely on PS shockwaves though I question if Preta would be capable of absorbing a massive TBB. If he can, he'd be defenseless during the absorption process since he'll be busy absorbing it. Madara could use this opportunity to attack with BM giving him the necessary speed to get behind him. Sasuke could use his PS to tank it though since the TBBs Madara would use aren't being amped by Six Paths chakra so I doubt it'll destroy his PS. Though since the TBB will be from 100% Kurama it's still bound to do some damage. In addition to Sasuke's being airborne giving it an easier time dodging the TBBs.
CT? Nagato's was that big since it was given enough time to grow. By the time Six Tails started attacking it, it had already grown to big for his attacks to reach the core. A TBB from 100% Kurama would destroy the core before it grows too big. I'm possitive the radius of the explosion would reach the core even if he doesn't attack ot right away.
I'd say the fight would come down to using their avatars. Madara would need PS to be able to bypass Sasuke's preta path through the use of his shockwaves. Sasuke, to survive the shockwaves and be able to damage Madara's PS Kurama avatar, would have to rely on his own Six Paths amped PS. Madara isn't limited to one or two TBBs and I'm certain a barrage of TBBs from 100% Kurama would do alot if damage if not destroy it. Sasuke's PS is airborne though and fast enough to dodge though. It also comes down to how much damage Sasuke's PS chidori would do to Madara's PS coated avatar. It's amped by Six Paths chakra too so it will do some damage but it still has to get close since I guarantee his PS shockwaves would still not be strong enough to damage it.
That's why it might be a close fight. Definitely not a low difficulty and probably not mid difficulty.
EDIT: Holy crap I wrote all that.
A PS amplified by Six Paths chakra is superior to EMS Madara's PS and by a margin as was shown. Naruto's avatar was amplified by that Six Paths chakra as well during their final fight. Madara's PS would be amplified by 100% Kurama in addition to coating that avatar with his PS though without Six Paths chakra which makes a huge difference, I'm unsure how strong it'll be in comparison. 50% Non-Six Paths chakra cloak was able to amplify the abilities of the SA by quite a bit too so I imagine 100% Kurama as the Jinchuuriki might be comparable to Six Paths chakra.
Difference here is that Sasuke could use some of his powers through PS which include Ameno and Chidori. Madara with his PS Kurama avatar could still charge up TBBs more powerful than the ones from the VOTE fight since a Jinchuuriki is superior to a Bijuu on it's own. I doubt the avatar Madara will have would be able to react to Sasuke's PS teleporting behind him and using Chidori for the penetration since Madara's own foot speed would benefit from BM cloak but his avatar won't have that speed.
Hand to hand combat. Even with BM, I still believe Sasuke would be faster since his speed was on par with that of a Juubi Jin which is superior to BM's speed. In addition to his teleportation and striking speed.
To counter Preta Path, Madara would have to rely on PS shockwaves though I question if Preta would be capable of absorbing a massive TBB. If he can, he'd be defenseless during the absorption process since he'll be busy absorbing it. Madara could use this opportunity to attack with BM giving him the necessary speed to get behind him. Sasuke could use his PS to tank it though since the TBBs Madara would use aren't being amped by Six Paths chakra so I doubt it'll destroy his PS. Though since the TBB will be from 100% Kurama it's still bound to do some damage. In addition to Sasuke's being airborne giving it an easier time dodging the TBBs.
CT? Nagato's was that big since it was given enough time to grow. By the time Six Tails started attacking it, it had already grown to big for his attacks to reach the core. A TBB from 100% Kurama would destroy the core before it grows too big. I'm possitive the radius of the explosion would reach the core even if he doesn't attack ot right away.
I'd say the fight would come down to using their avatars. Madara would need PS to be able to bypass Sasuke's preta path through the use of his shockwaves. Sasuke, to survive the shockwaves and be able to damage Madara's PS Kurama avatar, would have to rely on his own Six Paths amped PS. Madara isn't limited to one or two TBBs and I'm certain a barrage of TBBs from 100% Kurama would do alot if damage if not destroy it. Sasuke's PS is airborne though and fast enough to dodge though. It also comes down to how much damage Sasuke's PS chidori would do to Madara's PS coated avatar. It's amped by Six Paths chakra too so it will do some damage but it still has to get close since I guarantee his PS shockwaves would still not be strong enough to damage it.
That's why it might be a close fight. Definitely not a low difficulty and probably not mid difficulty.
EDIT: Holy crap I wrote all that.
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When was Sasuke shown to be on par with Rikūdou Madara in speed ? :lol
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First he must destroy his PS . Because if Madara is inside PS teleporting Madara will result into teleporting Susanoo too and vice versa.
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Does Madara start in PS? No, no he doesn't. Madara usually doesn't start with PS so Sasuke wouldn't have to deal with it at the start of the fight.
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does Sasuke start with chidori ??? Susanoo activation is lighting fast as seen when Itachi used it against Kirin.
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Funny enough Sasuke does start quite a few fights off with Chidori. Madara starting a fight with PS, don't think I've seen that happen more times then not. If Sasuke can land a hit on Juubi Jin Madara and caught him by surprise then I have no reason to believe that this Madara is gonna react any better.
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OP didn´t mention what intel they have so I dont see point in arguing this.You are right BTW if Madara doesn´t know about Ameno he would get one shoted.
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This is just VoTE Madara who's Kurama's Jin so since OP didn't give him full knowledge, I don't see why we would assume he would anything about most of Sasuke's jutsu since he wouldn't know of them at said time
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-It is, but Madara has PS and Full Kurama Avatar combined.
-Yeah, but there's no reason to believe that his Chibaku Tensei would be large or strong enough to contain or destroy even a regular PS let alone Madara's Avatar fusion. It takes something on the level of Chojo Kebutsu to destroy Madara's normal PS.
-His Avatar protects him from whatever follow up attack Sasuke launches.
-Sasuke can't use jutsu and absorb at the same time. If he's absorbing then he'd be unprotected meaning PS swings it's blade and the shockwave obliterates it. Not to mention his Preta isn't absorbing big attacks like Bijuu Dama.
We've already seen Teen Sasuke's max firepower, and it's half of the VoTE explosion. That's not greater than what Madara would be throwing around. We've also seen what can damage his PS and Madara has the firepower to do so. Normally I would say Ameno+PS Chidori pierces Madara's PS and ends it there, but Full Kurama is already on PS's level, so that's a 2x increase for Madara in defensive power. Then we have the fact that Kurama's power will enhance Madara's own PS. So Chidori won't one shot.
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Smh Sasuke wrecks still Madara being a jin meaningless or having a Kurama susanoo fusion. 50% of hagos chakra dwafs any singular bijuu as the boost is comparable to a juubi Jin boost.
Feats speaks for themself as well Chidori stream on his blade and the avatar and mads susanoo is heavily damaged. Sasuke has the speed strength and flight advantage he wrecks
Still using that faulty ass vote 1 explosion logic Sasuke's Ps blade >>>>> SS feats wise they do much more damage.
Feats speaks for themself as well Chidori stream on his blade and the avatar and mads susanoo is heavily damaged. Sasuke has the speed strength and flight advantage he wrecks
Still using that faulty ass vote 1 explosion logic Sasuke's Ps blade >>>>> SS feats wise they do much more damage.