Prime Hashirama vs prime Naruto

[Dark Rasengan]

All types of uncatchable/unredirectible bijuu bombs with shurikens are restricted, who wins ?

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Prime Naruto by a narrow margin. Overwhelming feats outshine overwhelming hype and with almost equal hype, Naruto still had the greater amount of feats. But Shinsuusenju begs to differ.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto still wins.

-Still has FRS and variants. Particularly YRS which would be much stronger if used in his cloaked RSM form.
-Still has the capability to take in excess amounts of Nature Energy to fuel his attacks.

If he can take SS out then it's a stomp from there on out.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Prime Naruto by a narrow margin. Overwhelming feats outshine overwhelming hype and with almost equal hype, Naruto still had the greater amount of feats. But Shinsuusenju begs to differ.

What are you talking about here :|

 

[HyuugaHeir]

What are you talking about here :|

Hashirama has Shinsuusenju. Nuff said

 

[Eng nawashi]

If only Bijudoma RS is restricted then Naruto still wins due to his other elemental RS like Lava RS .
If all kinds of RS are restricted then Hashiram can win. Naruto is left with only Bijudomas as a long range option but they all get redirected easily. Choju kabetsu eventually destroys Naruto's avatar and kill him

 

[Dark Rasengan]

If only Bijudoma RS is restricted then Naruto still wins due to his other elemental RS like Lava RS .
If all kinds of RS are restricted then Hashiram can win. Naruto is left with only Bijudomas as a long range option but they all get redirected easily. Choju kabetsu eventually destroys Naruto's avatar and kill him

No just BB shurikens.
Don't see how elemental variants would be a factor though, when SS could just finger flick them away.

 

[Eng nawashi]

No just BB shurikens.
Don't see how elemental variants would be a factor though, when SS could just finger flick them away.

He can't finger flick RS .

 

[Dark Rasengan]

He can't finger flick RS .

FRS explosion not even the size of SS fingers.

 

[Dark Rasengan]

Naruto still wins.

-Still has FRS and variants. Particularly YRS which would be much stronger if used in his cloaked RSM form.
-Still has the capability to take in excess amounts of Nature Energy to fuel his attacks.

If he can take SS out then it's a stomp from there on out.

Are you saying that his FRS variants are stronger than countless BD combined with PS katanas ? I seriously hope not.

 

[Dark Rasengan]

Naruto still wins.

-Still has FRS and variants. Particularly YRS which would be much stronger if used in his cloaked RSM form.
-Still has the capability to take in excess amounts of Nature Energy to fuel his attacks.

If he can take SS out then it's a stomp from there on out.

Are you saying that his FRS variants are stronger than countless BD combined with PS katanas ? I seriously hope not.

 

[KidGamer65]

Are you saying that his FRS variants are stronger than countless BD combined with PS katanas ? I seriously hope not.

:lol Obviously not buddy. 12 BD from Kurama is what is needed to take SS's arms out all at once. Naruto doesn't need to take it out all at once nor does he need to have firepower surpassing that.

Then we have the fact that if he:

-YRS is a blade made of Lava, thus it'll have an easier time burning wood than any other substance and it's more focused than a Bijuu Dama, and it carries enough cutting power to bisect the Shinju in RSM Naruto's weakest form.
-Uses said attacks via his Avatar.
-Infuses them with the same Nature Energy he used against Sasuke.

Then yes, they would be far stronger than anything EMS Madara or Hashirama has ever used and I seriously hope you aren't going to argue against that.

 

[Eng nawashi]

FRS explosion not even the size of SS fingers.

RSM Naruto's RS explosion is far larger than that .

 

[Dark Rasengan]

:lol Obviously not buddy. 12 BD from Kurama is what is needed to take SS's arms out all at once. Naruto doesn't need to take it out all at once nor does he need to have firepower surpassing that.

Then we have the fact that if he:

-YRS is a blade made of Lava, thus it'll have an easier time burning wood than any other substance and it's more focused than a Bijuu Dama, and it carries enough cutting power to bisect the Shinju in RSM Naruto's weakest form.
-Uses said attacks via his Avatar.
-Infuses them with the same Nature Energy he used against Sasuke.

Then yes, they would be far stronger than anything EMS Madara or Hashirama has ever used and I seriously hope you aren't going to argue against that.

No of course not, alright I guess I have to concede on most points, but what makes you think that a LRS from RSM is weaker than one from RSM + KCM.
As you can see (

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) each RS variant is used through RSM + KCM here, each RS created explosion of the same size.
Thus a LRS when used via a stronger mode was equal to the regular FRS.
The explosion doesn't even seem that big, at best it's a mountain size.

 

[Dark Rasengan]

RSM Naruto's RS explosion is far larger than that .

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Don't think so.

 

[KidGamer65]

No of course not, alright I guess I have to concede on most points, but what makes you think that a LRS from RSM is weaker than one from RSM + KCM.
As you can see (

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) each RS variant is used through RSM + KCM here, each RS created explosion of the same size.
Thus a LRS when used via a stronger mode was equal to the regular FRS.
The explosion doesn't even seem that big, at best it's a mountain size.

Because RSM+KCM>RSM alone. Your link doesn't work btw, but what we already know for sure is that YRS's explosion is large enough to bisect the Shinju in Naruto's second strongest form, let alone with full RSM and NE.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Hashirama has Shinsuusenju. Nuff said

shinsu senju doesn't stand a single chance against Rsm naruto, nuff said.

 

[Dark Rasengan]

Because RSM+KCM>RSM alone. Your link doesn't work btw, but what we already know for sure is that YRS's explosion is large enough to bisect the Shinju in Naruto's second strongest form, let alone with full RSM and NE.

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I'm referring to the 9 RS w/Bijuu elements he used against Kaguya.
Not only was the LRS explosion far far smaller and it didn't create the huge shockwave that original LRS produced against the God tree, but each RS created an explosion of the same size. And since there was a regular FRS among them, LRS was equal to FRS, and FRS at best creates a Bijuu size explosion.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

shinsu senju doesn't stand a single chance against Rsm naruto, nuff said.

Oh, forgive me. I tend to downplay Naruto. But yep I agree. RSM Naruto totally destroys SS. But it doesn't change the fact that Hashi's SS might possibly the biggest adversary in Hashi's arsena for Naruto.

 

[Eng nawashi]

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Don't think so.

The link doesn't work .I hope you aren't trying to bring some scans for pre RSM Naruto 's RS .