Otosuki clan are awesome now

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I really enjoy the fact that Otosuki are considered world eaters that harvest worlds once their ripe.

Reminds me of The Abraxis family from Jupiter Ascending that created worlds then harvested them later

or

Brethren Moons that forced evolution only to develop their source of food.

Either way im enjoying the new concept
 

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Ootsutsuki might be some sort of galactic population control I don't know what to make out of that over ten space curvature stuff. Kinshiki may be meaning about the concentration of chakra or anything. With that said, could it be that the GOD tree created humanity and ootsutsuki are essentially gods who harvest and feed on human chakra.

Plant a seed -> grow it to a tree -> mature a chakra fruit from the planet's inhabitants -> harvest the chakra fruit.
Ootsutsuki are farmers. Shinobi are just wheat or barley or something.
 

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Ootsutsuki might be some sort of galactic population control I don't know what to make out of that over ten space curvature stuff. Kinshiki may be meaning about the concentration of chakra or anything. With that said, could it be that the GOD tree created humanity and ootsutsuki are essentially gods who harvest and feed on human chakra.

Plant a seed -> grow it to a tree -> mature a chakra fruit from the planet's inhabitants -> harvest the chakra fruit.
Ootsutsuki are farmers. Shinobi are just wheat or barley or something.
Humans originally were not born with chakra.

The last sentence was my notion initially b4 someone convinced me otherwise. However, as I rethink it, it does seem that is the case. The chakra fruit couldn't grow on its own, on the earth of Naruto that is. Kaguya must've been sent to guard it, but betrayed the clan.

That also infers why she knew of Momoshiki and Kinshiki's coming. The time was set as to when the tree would come to complete fruition, and she knew they were coming to get it.

She was just the person to see to its growth, and protect it until the ones who sent her or, in this case, Momoshiki or Kinshiki came to take it. I also believe after growing the fruit, they destroy that planet they harvested it on since it can no longer grow another fruit again, I suppose? But Kaguya seemed to be threatened by their imminence. (Hypothetically speaking).
 
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Humans originally were not born with chakra.

The last sentence was my notion initially b4 someone convinced me otherwise. However, as I rethink it, it does seem that is the case. The chakra fruit couldn't grow on its own, on the earth of Naruto that is. Kaguya must've been sent to guard it, but betrayed the clan.
The very existence of the Chakra pathway system, err, chakra vessels, everyone probably has. Hagoromo did spread chakra and taught ninshuu. But I believe it is more appropriate to think that what he spread was his ideals through channeling his chakra and connecting with everyone. The chakra fruit symbolizes some sort of malice, awareness about power, and corruption (Bible reference).

If Hagoromo were the one who spread chakra itself among humanity, I cant make sense of how he mutated human beings to have extra vessels in their body for accomodating chakra.

Another point, Kaguya only wanted to retrieve the strong chakra that splitted between Hagoromo and Hamura. Also, the people who fell victim on IT by Kaguya further proves that people have some form of chakra innately. Hagoromo merely tapped people to properly use it which we know didn't work bec people instead use it to invent ninjutsu

Just a theory though.
 

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No. Before Hagoromo spread it out, humans couldn't be born with chakra.
Instead of born, humans couldn't use chakra. If humans hd chakra after Hagoromo spread it out, doesn't it imply that all shinobi descended from Hagoromo? Hagoromo spread his chakra as a basis for ninshuu. He didn't grant chakra to humans. Chakra is being produced innately in the cell, or so I remember. What he did was just ninshuu which humans corrupted ergo the ninjutsu.

But yep, feel free to disagree with another conjecture of mine.
 

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Instead of born, humans couldn't use chakra. If humans hd chakra after Hagoromo spread it out, doesn't it imply that all shinobi descended from Hagoromo? Hagoromo spread his chakra as a basis for ninshuu. He didn't grant chakra to humans. Chakra is being produced innately in the cell, or so I remember. What he did was just ninshuu which humans corrupted ergo the ninjutsu.

But yep, feel free to disagree with another conjecture of mine.
I couldn't find the manga scan of Hagoromo explaining the origin of chakra, but this should be enough:

Chakra originally belonged to the God Tree. When Kaguya Ōtsutsuki ate the fruit the God Tree bore, she became the first person in history to wield chakra. With her new-found power, she ended all the wars that plagued the lands. Her sons, Hamura and Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki, were the first people to be born with chakra.[1] Hagoromo spread chakra to others through a practice called ninshū, intending to create peace by using the chakra to connect people's spiritual energy so that they would understand one another without even talking. However, the people did not use chakra in the way Hagoromo hoped, instead using it to connect their inner spiritual and physical energies. They kneaded their inner chakra to amplify and weaponise it, creating what is now known as ninjutsu.
 

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It's slowly turning into a science fiction series with all that alien shit.
I liked it better when the Sage was just some God who created everything and stayed a mystery, leaving his two sons and their descendants as his only legacy. All of this alien nonsense is going to force Boruto to have extremely OP abilites, I feel bad for the kids who couldn't grow up with the Naruto series before Shippuden.

Now we found out that the Sage isn't a God and his mother was the actual God but even then she didn't create anything and neither did Hagoromo. One of the biggest problems with this series is that the new generation has their parents, unlike Naruto and Sasuke who didn't have OP fathers to help them with powerful opponents. I don't even watch the Boruto anime, it's a waste of time.
 

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I couldn't find the manga scan of Hagoromo explaining the origin of chakra, but this should be enough:

Chakra originally belonged to the God Tree. When Kaguya Ōtsutsuki ate the fruit the God Tree bore, she became the first person in history to wield chakra. With her new-found power, she ended all the wars that plagued the lands. Her sons, Hamura and Hagoromo Ōtsutsuki, were the first people to be born with chakra.[1] Hagoromo spread chakra to others through a practice called ninshū, intending to create peace by using the chakra to connect people's spiritual energy so that they would understand one another without even talking. However, the people did not use chakra in the way Hagoromo hoped, instead using it to connect their inner spiritual and physical energies. They kneaded their inner chakra to amplify and weaponise it, creating what is now known as ninjutsu.
Well, I'm someone who thinks kaguya ruined the whole chakra thing so there's that.
 

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I liked it better when the Sage was just some God who created everything and stayed a mystery, leaving his two sons and their descendants as his only legacy. All of this alien nonsense is going to force Boruto to have extremely OP abilites, I feel bad for the kids who couldn't grow up with the Naruto series before Shippuden.

Now we found out that the Sage isn't a God and his mother was the actual God but even then she didn't create anything and neither did Hagoromo. One of the biggest problems with this series is that the new generation has their parents, unlike Naruto and Sasuke who didn't have OP fathers to help them with powerful opponents. I don't even watch the Boruto anime, it's a waste of time.
You're not watching boruto anime? Lol then leave the base . Every thread is now about the episodes
 

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Humans originally were not born with chakra.

The last sentence was my notion initially b4 someone convinced me otherwise. However, as I rethink it, it does seem that is the case. The chakra fruit couldn't grow on its own, on the earth of Naruto that is. Kaguya must've been sent to guard it, but betrayed the clan.

That also infers why she knew of Momoshiki and Kinshiki's coming. The time was set as to when the tree would come to complete fruition, and she knew they were coming to get it.

She was just the person to see to its growth, and protect it until the ones who sent her or, in this case, Momoshiki or Kinshiki came to take it. I also believe after growing the fruit, they destroy that planet they harvested it on since it can no longer grow another fruit again, I suppose? But Kaguya seemed to be threatened by their imminence. (Hypothetically speaking).
They weren't originally born with chakra.

However the God Trees convert them into Chakra.
 
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