[Spoilers] One Piece Manga General Spoilers & Summaries

[Punk Hazard]

He gets more credit than he warranted how? People like you thought Doffy was on his death bed and shit, that's BS.

What typa asinine shit lmao. His organs were destroyed by a one-shot kill. That's near death. You bugging if you think you're taking an energy blast to your organs and walking outta that in good health.

Didn't oda say the reverie arc would be covered this year or something? That should be the next arc, it's probably a mini arc and then we should be headed to Wano where Kaido is. If everything I said is true then he does in fact have to beat an emperor in two arcs.

None of this supports what you said. What about this means Luffy HAS to defeat Kaido and Big Mom, as opposed to encountering them and defeating them later.

Keep your sarcasm to yourself.

lmao oh yeah or what?

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

When I say credit I'm referring to all the people who say he would get mid diffed and shit, apparently Doffy was on his death bed and G4 still couldn't beat him. Also people seem to think there's some big gap between Luffy and Cracker because Nami helped. I simply don't agree. Luffy had the power to beat both, his time limit in G4 is literally the only way he loses to either.

And you don't wank to Luffy lol

lets break this down

1. Vs Doffy:
Doffy just had tanked Law's strongest attack before gear 4 so I wouldn't say death bed but he was hurting and even after gear 4 he was up and walking just fine so yes there is a gap between their power level so he would get mid diff by doffy since other than G4 luffy couldn't hurt doffy

Manga pages to refresh your terrible memory:

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Luffy admitting Law did some damage:

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After G4:

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All that while still having the energy to keep up birdcage but hey what do I know

2. Vs Cracker:
Realistically he would get easy-mid diffed....he attacked, ate, and ran for 11 hours......11 fuucking hours.....not to mention nami made his DF useless even with that cracker put up sooo much resistance also the move he used to defeat him wouldn't be possible if he wasn't so fat also Cracker technically did defeat himself.

Yes his time limit is the only way he loses.....but it is also true that G4 is the ONLY way(ATM) he can beat them and BOTH of them can survive G4....Doffy can survive 1 maybe 2 but cracker can clearly survive more than 1 so how can Luffy defeat them??? G2 and G3 are useless only G4 can even hurt them and like I stated 1 G4 isn't enough to defeat either Doffy or Cracker in 1 go so it's gg for Luffy

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

What typa asinine shit lmao. His organs were destroyed by a one-shot kill. That's near death. You bugging if you think you're taking an energy blast to your organs and walking outta that in good health.


None of this supports what you said. What about this means Luffy HAS to defeat Kaido and Big Mom, as opposed to encountering them and defeating them later.


lmao oh yeah or what?

Doffy stopped the attack a few seconds later by using his strings and 30 minutes later his organs weren't torn apart after he got KOed by Luffy and his strings disappeared. This either means that GK didn't do as much damage as you think it did or it's a plothole, but I already know which interpretation you're gonna choose.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

And you don't wank to Luffy lol

lets break this down

1. Vs Doffy:
Doffy just had tanked Law's strongest attack before gear 4 so I wouldn't say death bed but he was hurting and even after gear 4 he was up and walking just fine so yes there is a gap between their power level so he would get mid diff by doffy since other than G4 luffy couldn't hurt doffy

Manga pages to refresh your terrible memory:

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Luffy admitting Law did some damage:

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After G4:

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All that while still having the energy to keep up birdcage but hey what do I know

2. Vs Cracker:
Realistically he would get easy-mid diffed....he attacked, ate, and ran for 11 hours......11 fuucking hours.....not to mention nami made his DF useless even with that cracker put up sooo much resistance also the move he used to defeat him wouldn't be possible if he wasn't so fat also Cracker technically did defeat himself.

Yes his time limit is the only way he loses.....but it is also true that BOTH of them can survive G4....Doffy can survive 1 maybe 2 but cracker can clearly survive more than 1 but what about Luffy??? how can he defeat them??? G2 and G3 are useless only G4 can even hurt them and like I stated 1 G4 isn't enough to defeat either Doffy or Cracker so it's gg for Luffy

Lmao it says on that exact same page that you linked that Luffy was tired too.

 

[OG sama]

What typa asinine shit lmao. His organs were destroyed by a one-shot kill. That's near death. You bugging if you think you're taking an energy blast to your organs and walking outta that in good health.


None of this supports what you said. What about this means Luffy HAS to defeat Kaido and Big Mom, as opposed to encountering them and defeating them later.


lmao oh yeah or what?

This ain't ****ing real life this is a manga, this logic is flawed as ****. He stitched all that shit up in a matter of seconds and got up like nothing happened.

What? He isn't beating BM this arc so obviously he will do that later. He even said in the spoilers that Kaido was first and then she's next. Riker what are you talking about?

Nothing lol.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Lmao it says on that exact same page that you linked that Luffy was tired too.

Did I say Luffy was 100%??? no??? ok was only pointing out that Law did inflict damage to Doffy....nothing more nothing less

 

[Punk Hazard]

This ain't ****ing real life this is a manga, this logic is flawed as ****. He stitched all that shit up in a matter of seconds and got up like nothing happened.

Oh yeah? Let's go to the manga for what logic applies then.

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Both of these pages indicate that despite how tough you are, physiological limits of normal humans still exist. Zoro notes you can be tough, but the cold won't be any easier to deal with, and more pertinent, Law states there's no defense for your insides, and he's a doctor with a credible word. So yes, having your organs trashed is gonna **** you up. There is visible evidence of Doflamingo being weaker after Gamma Knife hit.

What? He isn't beating BM this arc so obviously he will do that later. He even said in the spoilers that Kaido was first and then she's next. Riker what are you talking about?

He'll beat her later? And who says "later" MUST be within the next two arcs? That is my question. Stop evading.

 

[OG sama]

And you don't wank to Luffy lol

lets break this down

1. Vs Doffy:
Doffy just had tanked Law's strongest attack before gear 4 so I wouldn't say death bed but he was hurting and even after gear 4 he was up and walking just fine so yes there is a gap between their power level so he would get mid diff by doffy since other than G4 luffy couldn't hurt doffy

Manga pages to refresh your terrible memory:

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Luffy admitting Law did some damage:

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After G4:

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All that while still having the energy to keep up birdcage but hey what do I know

2. Vs Cracker:
Realistically he would get easy-mid diffed....he attacked, ate, and ran for 11 hours......11 fuucking hours.....not to mention nami made his DF useless even with that cracker put up sooo much resistance also the move he used to defeat him wouldn't be possible if he wasn't so fat also Cracker technically did defeat himself.

Yes his time limit is the only way he loses.....but it is also true that G4 is the ONLY way(ATM) he can beat them and BOTH of them can survive G4....Doffy can survive 1 maybe 2 but cracker can clearly survive more than 1 so how can Luffy defeat them??? G2 and G3 are useless only G4 can even hurt them and like I stated 1 G4 isn't enough to defeat either Doffy or Cracker in 1 go so it's gg for Luffy

1.They both were hurt, G4 was whipping Doflamingos ass and Doflamingo could not do shit to G4.

Where in the manga is it stated that he needed energy to maintain birdcage, he created it off a string clone.

2. He wouldn't survive G4 if it lasted 11 hours straight, imagine if he could use it like G2 they wouldnt be anything to him but yeah I can agree with this.

 

[Punk Hazard]

1.They both were hurt

The only damage Luffy took external to Doflamingo vs Luffy was from Bellamy. You're absolutely delusional if you think Bellamy can produce the same amount of damage as Law's strongest attack, or that Doflamingo couldn't recreate the same amount of damage as Bellamy did by using Awakening off the bat.

G4 was whipping Doflamingos ass and Doflamingo could not do shit to G4.

Wrong. When Doflamingo brought out Awakening, Luffy in Gear Fourth spent 20 minutes evading and couldn't break through until those 20 minutes had passed, and then still lost by the fact that he was wobbly on the ground while Doflamingo was up and going with his strongest offensive set ready to go.

He wouldn't survive G4 if it lasted 11 hours straight, imagine if he could use it like G2 they wouldnt be anything to him but yeah I can agree with this.

This is a dumb thing to say. Because I can say "Luffy can't survive if Gear Fourth only lasts four minutes," "Luffy can't survive if Doflamingo was ten times faster," and that would be an equally valid argument since you're just making up feats to favor Luffy. ANYONE can do that about ANY scenario.

 

[OG sama]

Oh yeah? Let's go to the manga for what logic applies then.

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Both of these pages indicate that despite how tough you are, physiological limits of normal humans still exist. Zoro notes you can be tough, but the cold won't be any easier to deal with, and more pertinent, Law states there's no defense for your insides, and he's a doctor with a credible word. So yes, having your organs trashed is gonna **** you up. There is visible evidence of Doflamingo being weaker after Gamma Knife hit.



He'll beat her later? And who says "later" MUST be within the next two arcs? That is my question. Stop evading.

Yes Gamma Knife hurt Doflamingo but he wasn't hurt by it as much as you think or else he wouldn't of got up as fast. Or let me guess you gonna tell me people can magically repair there organs in seconds in real life and fight like nothing happened. There's obviously some things in this manga that can relate to real life but at the same time there's a lot of stuff that doesn't.

Im not evading your question, where's your common sense, you act like you don't have it. I'm saying that he will have to fight Kaido two arcs from now who is also an emperor why are you bringing up Big mom when I said that he said in the spoiler that Kaido was first and then she's next? You can't think outside the box now? Are you trying to tell me Kaido won't be defeated at Wano? Are you trying to tell me Kaido ain't there?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Yes Gamma Knife hurt Doflamingo but he wasn't hurt by it as much as you think or else he wouldn't of got up as fast.

Except he didn't get up fast at all. Hell, he was down for pretty much the same amount of time as he was from the Gear Fourth onslaught that ended in Leo Bazooka.

Or let me guess you gonna tell me people can magically repair there organs in seconds in real life and fight like nothing happened.

Show me when I said this. I'll wait. Because I'm pretty sure my posts have been Doflamingo took heavy damage and didn't repair it(as he himself said, he didn't recover from any of the damage) and it affected his ability to fight. But sure, I bet you can find where in my posts I said he popped up without harm in seconds without damaging him. The saddest part is this isn't the first time you've contradicted yourself in just this argument.

There's obviously some things in this manga that can relate to real life but at the same time there's a lot of stuff that doesn't.

And yet, in the panel of Law I linked above, organs are related to as they are in real life. At this point, you're disagreeing with the manga.

Im not evading your question, where's your common sense, you act like you don't have it. I'm saying that he will have to fight Kaido two arcs from now who is also an emperor why are you bringing up Big mom when I said that he said in the spoiler that Kaido was first and then she's next?

You STILL haven't answered my question. I'm asking you who said that he has to fight Kaido two arcs from now. Who said it can't be later than two arcs from now?

You can't think outside the box now? Are you trying to tell me Kaido won't be defeated at Wano? Are you trying to tell me Kaido ain't there?

Who the hell said Kaido's defeat in Wano is gonna be two arcs from now is the question.

 

[Sakazuki]

I don't even wank Luffy like that, I just feel like he barely gets any credit for his fight with Cracker and Doflamingo.

Also Luffy getting no diffed by a Yonko when he has to figure out a way to beat one in the arc after the next doesn't make any sense. But unfortunately it looks like he is in fact fodder to Yonko. I can't believe Oda didn't even have him hold his own for a minute.

His Kong gun was epic asf imo against doffy

 

[OG sama]

Except he didn't get up fast at all. Hell, he was down for pretty much the same amount of time as he was from the Gear Fourth onslaught that ended in Leo Bazooka.


Show me when I said this. I'll wait. Because I'm pretty sure my posts have been Doflamingo took heavy damage and didn't repair it(as he himself said, he didn't recover from any of the damage) and it affected his ability to fight. But sure, I bet you can find where in my posts I said he popped up without harm in seconds without damaging him. The saddest part is this isn't the first time you've contradicted yourself in just this argument.


And yet, in the panel of Law I linked above, organs are related to as they are in real life. At this point, you're disagreeing with the manga.


You STILL haven't answered my question. I'm asking you who said that he has to fight Kaido two arcs from now. Who said it can't be later than two arcs from now?



Who the hell said Kaido's defeat in Wano is gonna be two arcs from now is the question.

Wheres your proof GK had a major affect on Doflamingo. That's what I wanna know.

Luffys crew is at Wano, Kaido is at Wano, Luffy said that Kaido is first, Inu is recruiting Marco for the battle against Kaido, Kaido has Kidd there beaten and locked up, he's obviously the next villain and the next big arc is obviously Wano and he will go down there obviously. You can't put two and two together? And what's funny is, this isn't the first time you acted like you can't use your brain. See what I did there.

 

[OG sama]

His Kong gun was epic asf imo against doffy

Yeah it was too bad its probably small fry for BM. I like the G4 transformation but he just doesn't seem to be improving with it, I thought his haki and stamina in the form would have gotten better at this point. He's been underperforming every since it was introduced.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Wheres your proof GK had a major affect on Doflamingo. That's what I wanna know.

I know for sure you've seen the debates and the evidence brought up before. Prior to Gamma Knife, Doflmingo's inferior clone was swatting away Gear Second attacks. Doffy himself was reacting to Jet Gatlings easily. After Gamma Knife, Doflamingo couldn't keep up with base Luffy for a moment, and then couldn't react to a Jet Bazooka until it was at his chest. Then he was keeping with Gear Second and Gear Fourth later on. Doflamingo's abilities were ****ed up after Gamma Knife.

Luffys crew is at Wano, Kaido is at Wano, Luffy said that Kaido is first, Inu is recruiting Marco for the battle against Kaido, Kaido has Kidd there beaten and locked up, he's obviously the next villain and the next big arc is obviously Wano and he will go down there obviously. You can't put two and two together? And what's funny is, this isn't the first time you acted like you can't use your brain. See what I did there.

No, what's actually funny is that you sound exactly like all of the people that said Big Mom would fall this arc. Half of Luffy's crew is at Wano, half of Luffy's crew is here. Some Minks are waiting at Wano, Luffy ended up with the Germa on their side here. They recruited Marco for Wano, they got Jinbei on their side here, along with Carrot and Pedro. They got Supernovas at Wano, they got Bege's crew here. And yet, we're at a point where Big Mom isn't gonna fall this arc. So all this "set-up" you mention doesn't help your argument at all, considering the same shit was said about this arc and it's blowing up in their faces.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

1.They both were hurt, G4 was whipping Doflamingos ass and Doflamingo could not do shit to G4.

Where in the manga is it stated that he needed energy to maintain birdcage, he created it off a string clone.

2. He wouldn't survive G4 if it lasted 11 hours straight, imagine if he could use it like G2 they wouldnt be anything to him but yeah I can agree with this.

1. Doffy took more damage....also great he was kicking his a$$ during G4 also doffy did do shiit while G$....cough* awakening cough* but thats not the point...the point was that what happens after G4 I showed you that Doffy was just fine after that G4 he was still using his awakening...while luffy couldn't move....like howlett said you're just evading



2. It didn't last 11 hours straight but he did use g4, ran, ate, use g4, ran, eat, repeat.....for 11 hours while cracker didn't have that luxury

 

[OG sama]

I know for sure you've seen the debates and the evidence brought up before. Prior to Gamma Knife, Doflmingo's inferior clone was swatting away Gear Second attacks. Doffy himself was reacting to Jet Gatlings easily. After Gamma Knife, Doflamingo couldn't keep up with base Luffy for a moment, and then couldn't react to a Jet Bazooka until it was at his chest. Then he was keeping with Gear Second and Gear Fourth later on. Doflamingo's abilities were ****ed up after Gamma Knife.



No, what's actually funny is that you sound exactly like all of the people that said Big Mom would fall this arc. Half of Luffy's crew is at Wano, half of Luffy's crew is here. Some Minks are waiting at Wano, Luffy ended up with the Germa on their side here. They recruited Marco for Wano, they got Jinbei on their side here, along with Carrot and Pedro. They got Supernovas at Wano, they got Bege's crew here. And yet, we're at a point where Big Mom isn't gonna fall this arc. So all this "set-up" you mention doesn't help your argument at all, considering the same shit was said about this arc and it's blowing up in their faces.

Fine.

I know Luffy cant beat any Yonko on his own, but with a lot of help he might have a chance. You think they're just going to go to Wano and lose? The BM arc is different because they never came to Whole cake to defeat BM they came here to save Sanji, which is exactly why they are getting there asses handed to them. This is just so Luffy can understand just how strong a Yonko is so he can plan accordingly and maybe figure out the best way to power up and compete with some help obviously. It's going to prepare him for his battle against Kaido in Wano.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Fine.

I know Luffy cant beat any Yonko on his own, but with a lot of help he might have a chance.

And how well did that work out with Big Mom, someone likely inferior to Kaido?

You think they're just going to go to Wano and lose? The BM arc is different because they never came to Whole cake to defeat BM they came here to save Sanji, which is exactly why they are getting there asses handed to them.

This argument doesn't hold up. They came to get Sanji, and it's devolved into a fight, which they have lost by all indications. So saying "They're going to fight" doesn't really help you, cause they're fighting now and it's going south.

 

[OG sama]

And how well did that work out with Big Mom, someone likely inferior to Kaido?


This argument doesn't hold up. They came to get Sanji, and it's devolved into a fight, which they have lost by all indications. So saying "They're going to fight" doesn't really help you, cause they're fighting now and it's going south.

Yeah but when the time comes to fight Kaido he will be more prepared and possibly stronger just because of this moment. The plot doesn't require Luffy to win now, so he won't but when the time comes he will be ready.

Cant wait for the chapter to come out.

 

[Our Lord Sasuke]

Chapter title: "Fluffy and Gooey" (Raw title とろふわ is a Japanese onomatopoeia. It is one of the lyrics Streusen sang several chapters ago.)

The castle is collapsing.

Bege and the others make use of the confusion and disorder that ensues and sand proceed with their escape plan.

Bege thinks that there is no need for the assassination plan anymore.

He thinks that they will all die in as the castle collapse.

But Struesen uses his ability and saves everyone from the debris.

Luffy and Bege pray for luck and head each to their own ship.

Some usual thing happen to Big Mom.

Not having eaten the wedding cake she begins to show symptoms of her eating illness

(Basically her illness kicks in and she will probably go nuts)Chapter title: "Fluffy and Gooey" (Raw title とろふわ is a Japanese onomatopoeia. It is one of the lyrics Streusen sang several chapters ago.)

The castle is collapsing.

Bege and the others make use of the confusion and disorder that ensues and sand proceed with their escape plan.

Bege thinks that there is no need for the assassination plan anymore.

He thinks that they will all die in as the castle collapse.

But Struesen uses his ability and saves everyone from the debris.

Luffy and Bege pray for luck and head each to their own ship.

Some usual thing happen to Big Mom.

Not having eaten the wedding cake she begins to show symptoms of her eating illness

(Basically her illness kicks in and she will probably go nuts)