Momoshiki Otsutsuki Vs Hashirama

Rikudou Tobi

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Why didn't momo used that ability in his fight against naruto & sasuke then? I do think momo will win, but not like that.

I have no idea. There's a lot of things momoshiki has that he did not do.
PIS if anything
 

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Naruto didn't tank it, that's why momoshiki was able to capture him in the first place. The only way he was able to divert the attack was to lift it up away using a biju bomb which Hashirama doesn't have. Even if he did, it'll still take the land they stand in giving you a small window of survival.
And if full kyubi naruto wasn't able to send the bomb away with his arms then shinsusenju is not.
That thing is bigger than the ranshom gates it's not deflecting anything.

Naruto tanked it as in he suppressed the damage to fit within the confines of the stadium. It did not pass from outside his avatar. Furthermore, Naruto was able to lift it with Kurama's hands, but couldn't push it out of the way enough for it to avoid the village. Hashirama's technique with far more hands is surely physically stronger than Kurama and has a better chance along with the gates at deflecting the damage. Also, don't overestimate the size of the explosion. Sasuke was considering the power of their attacks combined, and Naruto's would have been stronger than Momoshiki's.

If you say Hashirama's not surviving, then certainly Momoshiki who has less protection isn't either, making it suicide.

That's your opinion now here is the fact. He stopped time and he travelled dimensions.
God>>>Hashirama
I seriously don't like dealing with illogical fanboyism today especially when it comes to me using logic and manga pages to support the facts of a character I don't like that much.

The fact is that Momoshiki didn't perform the feat when alive, so you have no fact to prove he can. The other fact is that we don't know how Momoshiki/Kinshiki traversed dimensions, so you can't say he can move Hashirama so easily.

And by the way, you're the one who responded to me in the first place.
 

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I have no idea. There's a lot of things momoshiki has that he did not do.
PIS if anything
You have a point, the dude has three rinnegans and didn't really use the six paths jutsu. This is like Juubi jin madara all over again. :lol
 

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If Momoshiki's Absorption doesn't make mouktun vanish ,then any version of Momoshiki loses to SM Hashirama . Buddha stomps him and the TTB that momshiki used in the stadium can be redirected with jukai kotan or large enough mouktun hands since Hashirama was going to redirect Four giant Juibi TTB.
 
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Naruto tanked it as in he suppressed the damage to fit within the confines of the stadium. It did not pass from outside his avatar. Furthermore, Naruto was able to lift it with Kurama's hands, but couldn't push it out of the way enough for it to avoid the village. Hashirama's technique with far more hands is surely physically stronger than Kurama and has a better chance along with the gates at deflecting the damage. Also, don't overestimate the size of the explosion. Sasuke was considering the power of their attacks combined, and Naruto's would have been stronger than Momoshiki's.
Naruto did not tank it, his avatar was destroyed along with him being dragged by momoshiki weakened. Naruto did not suppress it in his avatar because...
1. Boruto and co. Where in it
2. The explosion reached beyond his avatar.

Hashirama is in no way shape or form physically stronger than Hokage Naruto who has Rsm and full kurama. This is the type of fanboyism that I was talking about.
If you say Hashirama's not surviving, then certainly Momoshiki who has less protection isn't either, making it suicide.
If he was flying like right above the blast like he did in canon.


The fact is that Momoshiki didn't perform the feat when alive, so you have no fact to prove he can. The other fact is that we don't know how Momoshiki/Kinshiki traversed dimensions, so you can't say he can move Hashirama so easily.

And by the way, you're the one who responded to me in the first place.

He will move him easily, he is a god that Kaguya feared. Hashirama is just a pebble to a god. Everything is just speculation.
 
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Naruto did not tank it, his avatar was destroyed along with him being dragged by momoshiki weakened. Naruto did not suppress it in his avatar because...

1. Boruto and co. Where in it

Yes he did, because that was the entire plan.

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2. The explosion reached beyond his avatar.

Not really. In the movie it showcases it better, but as you can see, the damage was practically limited to the stadium.

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Hashirama is in no way shape or form physically stronger than Hokage Naruto who has Rsm and full kurama. This is the type of fanboyism that I was talking about.

Sage Art: Wood Style: True Several Thousand Hands is definitely physically stronger than Kurama. With a single hand it can pick up Kurama. With hundreds more, the only conclusion would be you're the fanboy.

If he was flying like right above the blast like he did in canon.

Momoshiki has to be much farther out to use this attack without damaging himself, and that gives Hashirama plenty of time to set up barriers and create enough distance.
 

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Yep. Hashirama definitely wins whether Momo has ninjutsu absorbed or not.
 

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he used it without anything you mean, there is nothing that even slightly suggest he used it.

His eyes were crossed and there was no toad markings around his eyes that would otherwise suggest BSM. So yeah it was a RSM. Albeit with a different design. RSM Naruto with little mastery and 50% Kyuubi was stated that he did surpass Hashi in the manga. Thinking that after all these years and after becoming Hokage would revert back to being below Hashirama when the theme of the manga was about him surpassing the Hokages is beyond laughable with all due respect.
And think about it. Current Naruto was said to be equal to Sasuke by his own words. Are you going to suggest that he is equal to Rinnegan Sasuke with just BSM ? Lol.
 

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If Momoshiki's Absorption doesn't make mouktun vanish ,then any version of Momoshiki loses to SM Hashirama . Buddha stomps him and the TTB that momshiki used in the stadium can be redirected with jukai kotan or large enough mouktun hands since Hashirama was going to redirect Four giant Juibi TTB.

didn't hashirama say to the allience that he needed them to build doton walls. That implies he needs their help to avoid getting nuked by the tbb right?
 

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Momo blitzes hashirama. Power scaling has changed again.
 

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Lol @ momo blitzing Hashirama. Gtfo with that shit.
Momo was equal to Darui in CQC. Hashirama with SM would clown him when it comes to Taijutsu.
 

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didn't hashirama say to the allience that he needed them to build doton walls. That implies he needs their help to avoid getting nuked by the tbb right?

He said he he'll lead them away using jukai kotan .The walls were most likely just to slow them down since doton walls couldnt change the trajectory of single Juibi'TTB before .There were also four of them while momoshiki can fire only one at a time .it also takes a while to charge it so Hashirama can interrupt the charge with any strong enough attack .
 

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Momoshiki is implied to be capable of absorbing Shadow Clones. He'd likely absorb the majority of Hashirama's Mokuton. That being said, Hashirama loses. If this is just base Momo Hashirama shits on him in close combat as Momo doesn't start with any jutsu absorbed
 
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