Sasuke power was nerfed at VOTE 2
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Umari Senju
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This is such a tired excuse. This literally has been around since the first issue of Naruto. It's the nature of the fight. You fight a Jinchuriki you are also fighting their beast. All the Opponents who have Face Jin have never complained about how it's unfair because it 2 vs 1. They all knew what they were up against when they challenged them.
So why are people still complaining about it is beyond me. It's the terms of the fight. It isn't and unfair advantage when the other person clearly knows what they are about to face and step to the plate anyway. We should just let this die already.
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Azarath Metrion Zinthos
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It was 2 minds against 1, so you can be working on figuring out the math of that in the meanwhile.
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And that's why I always say that Sasuke isn't only fighting Naruto. He's fighting teammates. So Naruto and Sasuke aren't really equal.
To be honest, it would be palatable if Naruto wasn't getting coached over being given infinite chakra by his partner. But it gets redundant when he's said to be nerfed, when he's getting all the help he can get. And Sasuke on the other having to steal chakra to not get it depleted.
We're actually not complaining anymore. It just becomes necessary after a while, to remind you that Naruto isn't actually fighting alone, and always has the help of Kurama should he need it.
Detonator99
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It never really mattered to kishi since he was still shown to use susanoo while only having 3 tomoes and not EMS.:sdo:
Umari Senju
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Again. Nature of the fight. Also the point you make that he has always had help isn't exactly true. Up until he became a perfect Jin Naruto wasn't given "free infinite chakra" Naruto also faced 2 battles everytime he went into battle.
Every time that extra chakra was used it came at the price of loosing himself to Kurama. Half the time Naruto is facing an opponent he is also trying not to rely on Kurama's chakra because we've seen what happened when he did. He'd loose control and attack friend and foe. That's not free power. That power at a price. Kurama wasn't giving him any coaching throughout most of the manga . He'd simply watch and when Naruto was cornered, offer to help him out with the promise of more power.
It's a deal with the devil. Naruto faced both battles from without and within. But let's ignore all that and act like Naruto and Kurama have been buddy buddies the entire series. You guys act like Naruto's been a perfect Jin from the start.
It took a lot of hardship and will to reach that state, so any advice and power Kurama offers Naruto from that point on was earned.
SumireKakei
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If the fight lasted 12 minute total without talking, then everyone got nerfed. This should've been an hour long but instead it is mostly talk and a bunch for flashback montage. Naurto was more on the defensive side and not intending to kill so I think he got nerfed as well as Sasuke.
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KidGamer65
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Due to him having to CT all 9 Bijuu AND maintaining control over there I guess its fair that Sasuke would be a little weaker.
Afterall its not like the bijuu were actively producing chakra for him since they couldn't keep giving him natural energy or chakra.
Unlike others
Afterall its not like the bijuu were actively producing chakra for him since they couldn't keep giving him natural energy or chakra.
Unlike others
You know what the most hilarious part was? He couldn't control the eye, but had enough chakra to pull out Chidori. His Sharingan disappears, then two seconds later, he creates a combo of Enton and Chidori on his hand. Ingrates! I mean, who are we kidding here? It's Naruto! He won that Kiba-fight by breaking wind. Neji put on a dunce-hat and lost (the greatest genius in Hyuga history according to Hiruzen), because he turned off his Byakugan for some inexplicable reasons.
Against Pein, Deva's power was out, Ma summoned an entire platoon of the largest toads to save this pansy's butt (he couldn't even re-enter SM without them), Rinnegan couldn't see through regular smoke bombs or in the dark (which Sharingan has proven to do so); and to top it off, he phased through a perfectly intact CT and was already magically in SM despite the crushing pull of CT still being active: Nagato was trying to make it bigger. Beat that, folks. Beat that!
Naruto is the king of the most shitty sort of asspulls. Remember how Kishimoto had to rewrite the whole manga established fact that a Bijuu, once taken out, always killed the host? You can't get any worse than Naruto. Oh yeah, and Nagato gave up his philosophy, the genocide of his village at the hands of Konoha ... over Jiraiya's fanfiction. Let that sink in.
Against Pein, Deva's power was out, Ma summoned an entire platoon of the largest toads to save this pansy's butt (he couldn't even re-enter SM without them), Rinnegan couldn't see through regular smoke bombs or in the dark (which Sharingan has proven to do so); and to top it off, he phased through a perfectly intact CT and was already magically in SM despite the crushing pull of CT still being active: Nagato was trying to make it bigger. Beat that, folks. Beat that!
Naruto is the king of the most shitty sort of asspulls. Remember how Kishimoto had to rewrite the whole manga established fact that a Bijuu, once taken out, always killed the host? You can't get any worse than Naruto. Oh yeah, and Nagato gave up his philosophy, the genocide of his village at the hands of Konoha ... over Jiraiya's fanfiction. Let that sink in.
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CosmicPlayground
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Stupidity and buthurt work together well
All sasuke did was get saved by itachi
Fail to touch Juubito -get provided senjustu energy so he could be relevant
Fail to touch kaguya then lose to Naruto with all the tailed beast under his control
Naruto fought
Countless zetsu
Magnet user
Third raikage
Nagato
All jinchuuriki
Obito
Obito and madara
Ten tails
Kaguya
Sasuke with all tailed beast and still won with no break in between
Sasuke is a *****
All sasuke did was get saved by itachi
Fail to touch Juubito -get provided senjustu energy so he could be relevant
Fail to touch kaguya then lose to Naruto with all the tailed beast under his control
Naruto fought
Countless zetsu
Magnet user
Third raikage
Nagato
All jinchuuriki
Obito
Obito and madara
Ten tails
Kaguya
Sasuke with all tailed beast and still won with no break in between
Sasuke is a *****
CosmicPlayground
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He took it by force
He had all the chakra of the tailed beast
Nice try though
The only thing his ms grants him is flames,susanoo and powered up genjsuru
Genjustu doesn't work on perfect host
Flames were useless .....sasuke said it himself that it only worked as a distraction
And he used the most advanced form of susano
So what is this thread even existing for when he clearly used every lthing the ma grants him and still lose ?
Are you so stupid you can't even remember what happened in the fight you are all complaining about ?