can the byakugan see ..... ?

[shelke]

What is there to disprove?

Don't quote him! He might actually leave us alone!

 

[jamarcusp17]

Don't quote him! He might actually leave us alone!

And they give in. After wanting scans for proof, they get mad when scan is posted.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

And they give in. After wanting scans for proof, they get mad when scan is posted.

How exactly is that proof of anything?

 

[shelke]

And they give in. After wanting scans for proof, they get mad when scan is posted.

What proof? Your personal narratives aren't facts.

 

[Jiren]

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That look I give when Hyuuga faps post nonsense

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[Reviewing Logic]

Well Lady Byakugan just enlightened me with some new info on how small the chakra network is

THREAD WAS WORTH IT

 

[To Whatever]

I don't get what people are up in arms about.

Sharingan can't see chakra points but can see cells.

Byakugan can't see cells but can see chakra points.

Is it that hard to understand?




People disregard kakashi and start moving the goalposts to fit their narrative on both sides. Their insight are different. Byakugan sees farther, and through more things which allows them to see the chakra points.

 

[jamarcusp17]

What proof? Your personal narratives aren't facts.

How exactly is that proof of anything?

I don't know how to work this website and add the pictures. So frustrating!! But...

First, as you saw, the bombs in Sasuke's body was at least half the size of the cells next to them.

But, when you look at the scan of Kakashi talking with Tsunade about Kakuzu, you see the skin cells, the nuclei, the chakra pathways, and the chakra points. The chakra points are many times smaller than even the nuclei of the skin cells, which means that the Byakugan can see things that are much smaller than the bombs in Sasuke's body.

Then, you see the scan with Obito vs Torune. All that Obito could see in that scan was the chakra, not the actual bugs. He even thought it was chakra until he realized different.

Come to the conclusion that if the Byakugan gives someone the ability to zoom and penetrate barriers to see something as small as an amino acid, it can see what houses that amino acid: a cell. And Obito with his Sharingan of at least two decades couldn't see anything on a microscopic level. So... that is all your proof.

Btw, sorry for no pics. This website is horrible to navigate.

 

[To Whatever]

Jamar makes a valid point. Kishimoto is very inconsistent in the manga.
It's kind of silly.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

what is there to disprove? All that page shows is Obito noticing Torune's nano-sized bugs w/o his eye having to zoom in, which actually contradicts and defeats your argument about how it can't see anything on a nano-sized lvl. Congratulations, you just owned yourself lmao

the only reason he knew they were bugs was because he knew what Clan he was from and he knows about the technique

 

[Made in Heaven]

unless you can show something that says Kakashi definitely knows the first thing about Izanagi, Izanami, how EMS is awakened, and its relationship to Hagoromo's ability to create the bijuu then no, he doesn't know everything about the Sharingan. This is the guy that said Sharingan evolved from the Byakugan, so i think that says everything about Kakashi's knowledge of it.

comparing forbidden techs and ancient lore with abilities that even 2T has

 

[Made in Heaven]

Prove it that the Byakugan can see these or that these are even Chakra coils as they are shown to be wound around the organs. You are really reaching here and it's getting pitiful.

Tsunade literally says the network was destroyed by RS. Then we get a picture of the jutsu piercing the network, and we see the chakra points and how small they are.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

I don't know how to work this website and add the pictures. So frustrating!! But...

First, as you saw, the bombs in Sasuke's body was at least half the size of the cells next to them.

But, when you look at the scan of Kakashi talking with Tsunade about Kakuzu, you see the skin cells, the nuclei, the chakra pathways, and the chakra points. The chakra points are many times smaller than even the nuclei of the skin cells, which means that the Byakugan can see things that are much smaller than the bombs in Sasuke's body.

Then, you see the scan with Obito vs Torune. All that Obito could see in that scan was the chakra, not the actual bugs. He even thought it was chakra until he realized different.

Come to the conclusion that if the Byakugan gives someone the ability to zoom and penetrate barriers to see something as small as an amino acid, it can see what houses that amino acid: a cell. And Obito with his Sharingan of at least two decades couldn't see anything on a microscopic level. So... that is all your proof.

Btw, sorry for no pics. This website is horrible to navigate.

The individual points in the chakra cells cannot be seen by the byakugan. Don't give it feats it doesn't have. The byakugan can see the chakra network as a whole and the tenketsu not every individual cell along the network. Sheesh. If you got a cross section of the human body, you and I would be able to see the artery network but not the individual cells in that network or all around.

And obito made a mistake at first. It's not the first time in the manga, like kaguya saying "hagoromo and hamura" then realising it was Indra and ashura. Obito even identified the kind of bug "nano sized beetles". Why not ants? How would he know that if he couldn't see them?. It the Sharingan really couldn't see to the nano size level, he would still think it's chakra regardless.

 

[To Whatever]

The individual points in the chakra cells cannot be seen by the byakugan. Don't give it feats it doesn't have. The byakugan can see the chakra network as a whole and the tenketsu not every individual cell along the network. Sheesh. If you got a cross section of the human body, you and I would be able to see the artery network but not the individual cells in that network or all around.

And obito made a mistake at first. It's not the first time in the manga, like kaguya saying "hagoromo and hamura" then realising it was Indra and ashura. Obito even identified the kind of bug "nano sized beetles". Why not ants? How would he know that if he couldn't see them?. It the Sharingan really couldn't see to the nano size level, he would still think it's chakra regardless.

Sharingan can't see tenketsu points.

Byakugan can't see cells.


That's cut and dry proved by the manga.

 

[jamarcusp17]

The individual points in the chakra cells cannot be seen by the byakugan. Don't give it feats it doesn't have. The byakugan can see the chakra network as a whole and the tenketsu not every individual cell along the network. Sheesh. If you got a cross section of the human body, you and I would be able to see the artery network but not the individual cells in that network or all around.

And obito made a mistake at first. It's not the first time in the manga, like kaguya saying "hagoromo and hamura" then realising it was Indra and ashura. Obito even identified the kind of bug "nano sized beetles". Why not ants? How would he know that if he couldn't see them?. It the Sharingan really couldn't see to the nano size level, he would still think it's chakra regardless.

This is really getting pathetic on an entirely different level. Why does it bother you so much that the Byakugan can do something better than the Sharingan? I mean, you've known that it could see chakra system for more than 10 years now, that it could increase its focus, that it could see through things. So why are you acting stupid now?

It doesn't matter what you think. It is an ABSOLUTE fact that it can see the chakra network. That doesn't exclude what you want it to just because you have a personal vendetta against the clan, or because you love the Uchiha. Kishi didn't limit the Byakugan to only seeing parts of the chakra system, so who gave you authority to?

You're dismissed now.

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

This is really getting pathetic on an entirely different level. Why does it bother you so much that the Byakugan can do something better than the Sharingan? I mean, you've known that it could see chakra system for more than 10 years now, that it could increase its focus, that it could see through things. So why are you acting stupid now?

It doesn't matter what you think. It is an ABSOLUTE fact that it can see the chakra network. That doesn't exclude what you want it to just because you have a personal vendetta against the clan, or because you love the Uchiha. Kishi didn't limit the Byakugan to only seeing parts of the chakra system, so who gave you authority to?

You're dismissed now.

seeing chakra network and individual cells are two different things but continue with your stupidity. there are 361 tenketsu in the body. the byakugan can see this. there are over 37 trillion cells in the body. You can't link those two numbers no matter how much you will it to. Unless there are feats to show this, the byakugan cannot.

By the way the byakugan can see 360 degrees or 359 or whatever and through things and in a much longer range, it does that better than the sharingan. So telescopic vision, byakugan wins, microscopic sharingan takes it by feats. done with you now. bye

 

[UchihasRightfulHeir]

Sharingan can't see tenketsu points.

Byakugan can't see cells.


That's cut and dry proved by the manga.

literally all i'm saying. but some people here want to give sharingan feats to byakugan. you don't see me out here claiming the sharingan can see 360 degrees.

 

[WalksInShadows]

the only reason he knew they were bugs was because he knew what Clan he was from and he knows about the technique

*buzzer* wrong. Obito thought Torune injected his victims' cells with chakra at first. It wasn't until he closely inspected Fu's arm that he realized nano sized bugs were used to poison their victim.

 

[shelke]

Tsunade literally says the network was destroyed by RS. Then we get a picture of the jutsu piercing the network, and we see the chakra points and how small they are.

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Where does it say network here? How do you know they are Keirakukei Tsunade and Kakashi talked of when that only has 361 points and is way, way larger than this? All of the organs are made up of cells. If the organ at large is destroyed, then the coil wound around it would be as well. It's basic logic.

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The Byakugan can only canonically target these 361. Why? Because that's the only ones it can ****ing see. As UchihasRightfulHeir already mentioned that there are several trillion cells in the humanbody. Why don't you bring out a single panel to prove to me that the Byakugan can see them. Go on.

 

[SenseiSama]

I was literally about to post this in reply to the other thread. Sasuke could differentiate his own chakra from deidara's in his own body so clearly it can differentiate chakra even on a cellular level.

Watch the hyuuga faps try to play this off.

No one is playing it off, it simply means Hyuga can see on a further level, possibly atomic. It sounds stupid but Kaguya's Byakugan was able to tell Indra and Ashura's souls from Naruto and Sasuke, the Byakugan's insight goes beyond the physical spectrum.