can the byakugan see ..... ?

[shelke]

We already saw how Chakra is seen with Obito. It is no where near as detailed as Bakugan

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Its flow is disturbed. Don't see your point.

Those Chakra points are literally dozens of times smaller than the cells they're surrounding. nice observation.

And? What point are you trying to make?

 

[Hakke]

Anyways, this scan shows Chakra Points are WAY smaller than even cells. And Sharingan can only see up to simply cellular level.

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wait, was is stated that this string with points is the Chakra network?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

It's a fair assumption to say Kakashi was comparing his own sharingan in relation to the Hyuugas Byakugan. I say this for a few reasons.

1. Kakashi abilities/power never stunted pass that of a full blood Uchiha. This was made evident when we look at Kakashi's growth with the sharingan compared to Sasuke's.

Maybe not a fair comparison at the first initial thought because Sasuke is a Demi-God while kakashi. However the experience gap of the sharingan between Sasuke and Kakashi is naturally a wide one. Yet Sasuke has showed more feats with it in terms of versatility. If we are going to argue about the sharingan powers lets favor the feats of someone who is actually part of the clan.

2. As someone stated earlier Kakashi couldn't even suppress Kurama's power something that was made evident for any Uchiha. In terms of "insight" this feat surpasses anything the Byakugan has ever done. Ever.

3. Uchiha > Hyuuga Sharingan > Byakugan in general so theres no need for this to be a dragged on debate. The Byakugan has its favorable abilities with taijutsu enhacements(although still highly arguable who would actually win in a fight a sharingan user with no training or a byakugan user with no training. But the sharingan is stronger in nearly every department dont let this be a revelation for you just old news.

Restraining power is an insight feat now? lmao So I guess Kushina must have the best insight of all since she supressed 100% Kurama while on her death bead :lol

Even if I agree Sharingan > Byakugan in general, that doesn't mean in the sole aspect of insight, it isn't, as stated by the manga itself.

 

[Made in Heaven]

wait, was is stated that this string with points is the Chakra network?

Yeah

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[Made in Heaven]

Itachi wouldn't need Susano'o though, especially if Neji easily fell for Naruto's KB antics

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stick to the subject kid. This thread is about whether the Byakugan can see to the cellular lvl or not. If a Sharingan can see see something as small as a nano bomb, that's all there is to it.

You Byakugan fans talk about manga facts being irrefutable gospel, but here you all are trying to downplay what is a clear cut Sharingan feat just because it means you can't trot your favorite dead horse out.

Actually, as shown on several scans above, the Chakra Points are even smaller than cells. So if the Byakugan can see the Chakra Points, it can see at a cellular level, because cells are larger than Chakra points

 

[Dantee]

Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

Restraining power is an insight feat now? lmao So I guess Kushina must have the best insight of all since she supressed 100% Kurama while on her death bead :lol

Even if I agree Sharingan > Byakugan in general, that doesn't mean in the sole aspect of insight, it isn't, as stated by the manga itself.

Insight is a deep understanding of something. Being able to act of those deep instincts too is also important. So yes the Sharingan having the ability to see and suppress something with a large mass of powerful chakra gives it a great edge in the insight department.

 

[Hakke]

Yeah

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Anyways, this scan shows Chakra Points are WAY smaller than even cells. And Sharingan can only see up to simply cellular level.

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interesting...

I guess this ends the thread.

 

[Reboryushon]

Kakashi never made that statement. Jesus, you Byakugan fans, fishing for things that aren't even there.



Where else does the chakra flow if not in the network? If Sharingan can tell how much chakra is left in the body, then where exactly is it looking at if not the network?

In the image i posted, what does Kakashi mean?

Doesn't matter. Kakashi already said the Sharingan can't see the tenketsu or the Chakra network :lol

Shelke is actually right.

Obito could see Rin chakra flow.

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He also confirms it is due to the Sharingan.

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[Made in Heaven]

Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

Insight is a deep understanding of something. Being able to act of those deep instincts too is also important. So yes the Sharingan having the ability to see and suppress something with a large mass of powerful chakra gives it a great edge in the insight department.

The supression part isn't insight though. That's more like what Wood Style or Uzumaki Chains do. And those have no relation to insight

Shelke is actually right.

Obito could see Rin chakra flow.

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He also confirms it is due to the Sharingan.

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I never said otherwise.

 

[shelke]

Anyways, this scan shows Chakra Points are WAY smaller than even cells. And Sharingan can only see up to simply cellular level.

Kakashi never even saw this level, so what are you basing this on? And some cells are visible to the naked eye. Bet you didn't know that, huh? You are trying way too hard. Way too hard and it shows. A nano is ten raised to power minus nine. Do you have any idea how small that is? A nano-meter is one-billionth of a meter. Jesus, I mean. This is pretty stupid, even for your standards.

interesting...

I guess this ends the thread.

Holy hell ... wow ... I am laughing hard at this.

 

[Hakke]

Shelke is actually right.

Obito could see Rin chakra flow.

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He also confirms it is due to the Sharingan.

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already addressed.

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no one said that it couldn't see the Chakra flow

 

[Jiren]

Ayy dantee's back.

 

[Jiren]

Doesn't matter. Kakashi already said the Sharingan can't see the tenketsu or the Chakra network :lol

You mean his sharingan. Who told you the sharingan cant the see the chakra network. lmfao

 

[Made in Heaven]

Kakashi never even saw this level, so what are you basing this on? And some cells are visible to the naked eye. Bet you didn't know that, huh? You are trying way too hard. Way too hard and it shows. A nano is ten raised to power minus nine. Do you have any idea how small that is? A nano-meter is one-billionth of a meter. Jesus, I mean. This is pretty absurd, even for your standards.

I know he didn't see it, but the pictures shown during the explanation of how RS works display the Chakra Points WAY smaller than cells. Meaning if Chakra points can be seen, cells can be seen as well.

Byakugan can see Chakra points, meaning it can see cells. Sharingan can see cells, but this doesn't mean it can see Chakra points, and it has even been pointed out that it can't.

 

[Made in Heaven]

You mean his sharingan. Who told you the sharingan cant the see the chakra network. lmfao

His Sharingan is still a Sharingan. By this logic, how do you know all Sharingan can see at a cellular level and that Sasuke's eyes weren't influenced by the Curse Seal???

A Sharingan user did, and this has been shown via the eye sight of actual Sharingan users Anyways, Chakra points are smaller than cells, meaning Byakugan can in fact see cells.

 

[shelke]

I know he didn't see it, but the pictures shown during the explanation of how RS works display the Chakra Points WAY smaller than cells. Meaning if Chakra points can be seen, cells can be seen as well.

Byakugan can see Chakra points, meaning it can see cells. Sharingan can see cells, but this doesn't mean it can see Chakra points, and it has even been pointed out that it can't.

And? I just told you something very improtant about the cells. Nanobombs! Nano!

And? Nano! Ten raised to power minus nine! Ever took maths of any sort in your entire life? Doesn't seem that way.

 

[Jiren]

His Sharingan is still a Sharingan. By this logic, how do you know all Sharingan can see at a cellular level and that Sasuke's eyes weren't influenced by the Curse Seal???

A Sharingan user did, and this has been shown via the eye sight of actual Sharingan users Anyways, Chakra points are smaller than cells, meaning Byakugan can in fact see cells.

uhh a sharingan is a sharingan but the skill is still dependent on the user. Wouldn't he mentioned his sharingan being influenced by CM. Wouldn't you need that as proof of your assumption.

There is no facts to prove a chakra point is smaller than a cell. Hell a cell and a chakra point are probably damn near the same size for all we know.



But going by a the refrence to the needle tip its actually bigger. You backtracking hard now huh.

 

[Made in Heaven]

uhh a sharingan is a sharingan but the skill is still dependent on the user.

Yet people were comparing kid Neji to teen Sasuke?

Wouldn't he mentioned his sharingan being influenced by CM. Wouldn't you need that as proof of your assumption.

Never said nor do I think this. I am just using the same logic as you who states Kakashi's Sharingan's insight is weaker than an Uchiha's without any proof (assumption)

There is no facts to prove a chakra point is smaller than a cell. Hell a cell and a chakra point are probably damn near the same size for all we know.

Scans above show Chakra points beinf dozens of times smaller than cells.

But going by a the refrence to the needle tip its actually bigger. You backtracking hard now huh.

Being smaller than a needle tip doesn't mean it can't be smaller than a cell, which is actually shown.

 

[Reboryushon]

The supression part isn't insight though. That's more like what Wood Style or Uzumaki Chains do. And those have no relation to insight



I never said otherwise.

already addressed.

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no one said that it couldn't see the Chakra flow

I know he didn't see it, but the pictures shown during the explanation of how RS works display the Chakra Points WAY smaller than cells. Meaning if Chakra points can be seen, cells can be seen as well.

Byakugan can see Chakra points, meaning it can see cells. Sharingan can see cells, but this doesn't mean it can see Chakra points, and it has even been pointed out that it can't.

And suddenly Sasuke saw White Zetsus Sacral Chakra point... Can we just assume this manga is full of inconsistencies?

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[Dantee]

Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

The supression part isn't insight though. That's more like what Wood Style or Uzumaki Chains do. And those have no relation to insight



I never said otherwise.

I disagree because its a complimentary to the sharingan's insight so it does count as a feat of insight. If the sharingan didn't have the insight it would never be able to do something like that.