can the byakugan see ..... ?

[Jiren]

Lol yeah right. The logic of Uchiha fans is so flawed.

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[WalksInShadows]

Exactly like that

Itachi wouldn't need Susano'o though, especially if Neji easily fell for Naruto's KB antics

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Microscopic vision has nothing to do with insight. Insight means to eb able to understand/discern/comprehend.

stick to the subject kid. This thread is about whether the Byakugan can see to the cellular lvl or not. If a Sharingan can see see something as small as a nano bomb, that's all there is to it.

You Byakugan fans talk about manga facts being irrefutable gospel, but here you all are trying to downplay what is a clear cut Sharingan feat just because it means you can't trot your favorite dead horse out.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

You must be thinking about the anime scene which shows Obito focusing and zooms in on the bugs. But in the manga he was using Sharingan to begin with (otherwise he wouldn't see the "x-ray" image of Fuu on the top left).

I figured that it was evident because he literally said he sees the nano size bugs. If he wasn't able to see that far he wouldn't of mentioned it in the first.
He probably just saw the bugs as being just chakra at first glance though, but that takes nothing from his feats.

 

[shelke]

the fact that even the Sharingan can't detect it.

but I don't that that this proves that the Byakugan has a microscopic vision, it just proves that it has a better Chakra sight than the Sharingan's or the Byakugan being the only Doujtsu that can see the Chakra network and Tenketsus could be in the same manner that the Rinnegan is the only Doujutsu that can see the Limbo clones. not quite sure.

anyway, I think that Byakugan can detect them by seeing their Chakra.

Or, maybe, that's just Kakashi's Sharingan?

 

[Jinrou]

If im not mistaken Kakashi attempted to count Rasenshuriken's small wind blades which attacks the chakra circulatory system on a celular level.

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Kakashi was seeing these tiny blades from a distance unlike Sasuke , so i'd assume that he has pretty good knowledge of what the 3-T is capable of in terms of insight yet he said Byakugan>>>Sharingan in this regard "Completely'..

Yeah.. Kakashi's

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implies this. And considering the number of cells in the body, it makes sense that he couldn't follow it all.. but i don't think that's an insight feat.

 

[Hakke]

Or, maybe, that's just Kakashi's Sharingan?

where was it shown or stated that the Sharingan can see the Chakra network and the Tenketsus?

 

[shelke]

Kakashi never made that statement. Jesus, you Byakugan fans, fishing for things that aren't even there.

where was it shown or stated that the Sharingan can see the Chakra network and the Tenketsus?

Where else does the chakra flow if not in the network? If Sharingan can tell how much chakra is left in the body, then where exactly is it looking at if not the network?

 

[Jinrou]

Kakashi never made that statement. Jesus, you Byakugan fans, fishing for things that aren't even there.

In the image i posted, what does Kakashi mean?

 

[Dantee]

Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

If you read manga you will find answer there

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It's a fair assumption to say Kakashi was comparing his own sharingan in relation to the Hyuugas Byakugan. I say this for a few reasons.

1. Kakashi abilities/power never stunted pass that of a full blood Uchiha. This was made evident when we look at Kakashi's growth with the sharingan compared to Sasuke's.

Maybe not a fair comparison at the first initial thought because Sasuke is a Demi-God while kakashi. However the experience gap of the sharingan between Sasuke and Kakashi is naturally a wide one. Yet Sasuke has showed more feats with it in terms of versatility. If we are going to argue about the sharingan powers lets favor the feats of someone who is actually part of the clan.

2. As someone stated earlier Kakashi couldn't even suppress Kurama's power something that was made evident for any Uchiha. In terms of "insight" this feat surpasses anything the Byakugan has ever done. Ever.

3. Uchiha > Hyuuga Sharingan > Byakugan in general so theres no need for this to be a dragged on debate. The Byakugan has its favorable abilities with taijutsu enhacements(although still highly arguable who would actually win in a fight a sharingan user with no training or a byakugan user with no training. But the sharingan is stronger in nearly every department dont let this be a revelation for you just old news.

 

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[Made in Heaven]

Not really a needle tip >>>>> nano bombs in size or are you dat dumb mate.

Doesn't matter. Kakashi already said the Sharingan can't see the tenketsu or the Chakra network :lol

 

[shelke]

In the image i posted, what does Kakashi mean?

Kakashi never saw the blades. That was Tsunade's analysis:

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His opinion on the workings of a Sharingan is completely pointless and useless.

Kakashi couldn't even follow the movement of the blade themselves (you know, the big three blades attack per movement?), let alone show agreement with what Tsunade stated. He never saw anything at the cellular level. He had no clue how the blades functioned at that level.

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

It's a fair assumption to say Kakashi was comparing his own sharingan in relation to the Hyuugas Byakugan. I say this for a few reasons.

1. Kakashi abilities/power never stunted pass that of a full blood Uchiha. This was made evident when we look at Kakashi's growth with the sharingan compared to Sasuke's.

Maybe not a fair comparison at the first initial thought because Sasuke is a Demi-God while kakashi. However the experience gap of the sharingan between Sasuke and Kakashi is naturally a wide one. Yet Sasuke has showed more feats with it in terms of versatility. If we are going to argue about the sharingan powers lets favor the feats of someone who is actually part of the clan.

2. As someone stated earlier Kakashi couldn't even suppress Kurama's power something that was made evident for any Uchiha. In terms of "insight" this feat surpasses anything the Byakugan has ever done. Ever.

3. Uchiha > Hyuuga Sharingan > Byakugan in general so theres no need for this to be a dragged on debate. The Byakugan has its favorable abilities with taijutsu enhacements(although still highly arguable who would actually win in a fight a sharingan user with no training or a byakugan user with no training. But the sharingan is stronger in nearly every department dont let this be a revelation for you just old news.

This is so well said. +rep

 

[Dantee]

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This is so well said. +rep

Thanks. I could've thrown a few more points in there, but after reading through the thread I really don't see the need anymore.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Kakashi never made that statement. Jesus, you Byakugan fans, fishing for things that aren't even there.



Where else does the chakra flow if not in the network? If Sharingan can tell how much chakra is left in the body, then where exactly is it looking at if not the network?

We already saw how Chakra is seen with Obito. It is no where near as detailed as Bakugan

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[Made in Heaven]

Kakashi never saw the blades. That was Tsunade's analysis:

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His opinion on the workings of a Sharingan is completely pointless and useless.

Kakashi couldn't even follow the movement of the blade themselves (you know, the big three blades attack per movement?), let alone show agreement with what Tsunade stated. He never saw anything at the cellular level. He had no clue how the blades functioned at that level.

Those Chakra points are literally dozens of times smaller than the cells they're surrounding. nice observation.

 

[Uchihauzamakibarrage]

Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

Thanks. I could've thrown a few more points in there, but I really don't see the need anymore.

Any logical person should be able to comprehend your post clearly, and should be able to understand all points made down to the tee. Now on the other hand... I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few outliers though, but there just in denial so it's okay.

 

[Hakke]

Where else does the chakra flow if not in the network? If Sharingan can tell how much chakra is left in the body, then where exactly is it looking at if not the network?

it can see the Chakra flow.

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and some other Doujutsus also can

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it is just not as precisely as the Byakugan.

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[Jinrou]

Kakashi never saw the blades. That was Tsunade's analysis:

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What does "The number of attacks" refer to?

His opinion on the workings of a Sharingan is completely pointless and useless.

Kakashi couldn't even follow the movement of the blade themselves (you know, the big three blades attack per movement?), let alone show agreement with what Tsunade stated. He never saw anything at the cellular level. He had no clue how the blades functioned at that level.

I think the bold is ridiculous. The only issue that's been canonically stated about Kakshi's sharingan is the fact that he requires more chakra to use it than a normal uchiha would. Ability wise, no problem has been stated..iirc, it was even considered abnormal for him to be able to use MS?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Anyways, this scan shows Chakra Points are WAY smaller than even cells. And Sharingan can only see up to simply cellular level.

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