can the byakugan see ..... ?

[Jiren]

The copying feat uses insight though

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Mind control of bijuus has nothing to do with insight. And lol Kakashi was not talking of his own abilities, but the eyes' powers in general, so using his feats means nothing when Kakashi wasn't even saying "the Byakugan is better than my Sharingan" but saying "the Byakugan is better than the Sharingan"



Keep denying what the author has said I guess

The author didn't say it was only Kakashi opinion based on what he has witnessed. Kishi never said byakugan insight was superior just what Kakashi believed which was proved wrong later on. It was just a means to hype the byakugan. I never mentioned mind control just that Sasuke can see Kurama cleary more than Byakugna evrr could.

 

[jamarcusp17]

Wouldn't itachi be a literal expert on his own tech?

Not being a hypocrite. Byakugan has great insight in lots of things, but it cannot do everything the sharingan can in insight, and vice versa. I'm actually tired of this argument now. bye

Yes, you're right. He'd be an expert from experience: no one he's fought has been able to escape Tsukuyomi. But the question is, did he fight every single ninja in the world, and were each of them susceptible to the Tsukuyomi.

The answer: no he hasn't, so he doesn't know if everyone is susceptible to it. It's just a statement based on his knowledge of it.

Now, since you're saying there is no evidence of a Hyuga seeing at that level as proof that they can't, it is a well known fact that Hyuga absolutely shits on Itachi since the Tsukuyomi doesn't work on them .

 

[jamarcusp17]

The author didn't say it was only Kakashi opinion based on what he has witnessed. Kishi never said byakugan insight was superior just what Kakashi believed which was proved wrong later on. It was just a means to hype the byakugan. I never mentioned mind control just that Sasuke can see Kurama cleary more than Byakugna evrr could.

What the he'll are you talking about? This isn't a novel. Kishi doesn't talk through narration in Naruto, he speaks through characters. So, whatever Kishi says through a character's mouth is MANGA FACT. Damn.

 

[Jiren]

What the he'll are you talking about? This isn't a novel. Kishi doesn't talk through narration in Naruto, he speaks through characters. So, whatever Kishi says through a character's mouth is MANGA FACT. Damn.

Not really. Characters and abilities often overhyped in p1 especially. For example Hiruzen = strongest hokage.

 

[Made in Heaven]

The author didn't say it was only Kakashi opinion based on what he has witnessed. Kishi never said byakugan insight was superior just what Kakashi believed which was proved wrong later on. It was just a means to hype the byakugan. I never mentioned mind control just that Sasuke can see Kurama cleary more than Byakugna evrr could.

Oh god. the reaching here!! Kishi talks through the characters, this isn't a novel where the author can speak from a 3rd person POV, he speaks through the characters So yes, Kishimoto did say Byakugan insight negs Sharingan's insight, and nothing has ever been shown or said to imply otherwise.

Already told you, it wasn't literal, Orochimaru seeing the same thing Sasuke saw shows this :lol Same goes for Bee and Naruto entering Naruto and Obito's minds

 

[Jinrou]

Sasuke could see it because he became more experienced with his sharingan and even suppressed kurama power The seal needed to be weaker for extraction its not the same at all.

But Neji was experienced with his byakugan when he fought Naruto right? :lol That same Neji who didn't even know;
- The eye had a blindspot
- His eye's limits wrt distance

Not that it matters anyway. Orochimaru couldn't see Kurama in the forest of death when he messed with Naruto's seal but could in early part 2 where its made absolutely clear the seal was weakening. The reason is pretty obvious tbh.

 

[Jiren]

Oh god. the reaching here!! Kishi talks through the characters, this isn't a novel where the author can speak from a 3rd person POV, he speaks through the characters So yes, Kishimoto did say Byakugan insight negs Sharingan's insight, and nothing has ever been shown or said to imply otherwise.

Already told you, it wasn't literal, Orochimaru seeing the same thing Sasuke saw shows this :lol Same goes for Bee and Naruto entering Naruto and Obito's minds

Kishi didn't say that but nice fanfic. feats > hype as always. Already proof p1 has retcons. what more do you want.

 

[Jiren]

But Neji was experienced with his byakugan when he fought Naruto right? :lol That same Neji who didn't even know;
- The eye had a blindspot
- His eye's limits wrt distance

Not that it matters anyway. Orochimaru couldn't see Kurama in the forest of death when he messed with Naruto's seal but could in early part 2 where its made absolutely clear the seal was weakening. The reason is pretty obvious tbh.

He was. He was a genius above 75% of the clan according to Hiashi. Orochimaru was never trying to pierce through his seal to see Kurama. Your deduction is wrong here. The seal had nothing to do with what Oro witnessed. Its obvious what we saw was Kurama killing intent.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Kakashi most profound ability with the sharingan is the copy wheel not insight or else he would have subdued Kurama himself. Kakahsi was weak sharingan user. Part 1 facts are outdated feats > hype. Sharingan betteer in almost every way. Add insight to the list now.

1. We have direct confirmation that Byakugan insight > Sharingan, what OP posted is insight power.

2. Sharingan has never shown ability to see tenketsu, chakra pathway system , X ray and telescopic vision. and you think it has better insight

3. This is so hard to realise for kids like you and others, but Hyuga was never in same situation like Sasuke did so it was never necessary for them to show this ability.

 

[Jiren]

1. We have direct confirmation that Byakugan insight > Sharingan what OP posted is insight power.

Confirmation means we have feats to back the hype. We dont not enough anyways.

2. Sharingan has never shown ability to see tenketsu, chakra pathway system , X ray and telescopic vision. and you think it has better insight

Did they even have a reason to see tenketsu. They are not gentle fist users so a sharingan user doing so would no sense. We also have no idea how small of big tenketsu are so thats a moot point. Also how many times we post that sasuke vs diedara for it to sink the sharingan can see on the microscopic level. At that point it can see through anything xray included.

3. This is so hard to realise for kids like you and others, but Hyuga was never in same situation like Sasuke did so it was never necessary for them to show this ability.

Neji against Naruto had every means to use his byakugan insight to look for the real source of Naruto power. Sasuke can easily do it with his 3 tomoe sharingan because Sharingan > Byakugan insight. Its quite simple. :tea:

 

[Jinrou]

He was. He was a genius above 75% of the clan according to Hiashi. Orochimaru was never trying to pierce through his seal to see Kurama. Your deduction is wrong here. The seal had nothing to do with what Oro witnessed. Its obvious what we saw was Kurama killing intent.

Genius =/= experience. At that point, he didn't even know his limits. Hinata by that point knew hers... He definitely wasn't experienced with the eyes. Interesting..so in the forest of death Naruto didn't have

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? What did he want to do to Oro then? Snuggle?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Confirmation means we have feats to back the hype. We dont not enough anyways.

So Hagoromo is weaker than Nagato since he has no feats?

Did they even have a reason to see tenketsu. They are not gentle fist users so a sharingan user doing so would no sense.

Please don't tell me youre trying to imply Sharingan can see tenketsu?

We also have no idea how small of big tenketsu are so thats a moot point.

As small as a needle tip

Also how many times we post that sasuke vs diedara for it to sink the sharingan can see on the microscopic level.

How many times must it be posted that a 3T user said Byakugan insight is better? Or how many times must it be posted that Orochimaru saw Kurama too, meaning it isn't literal at all.

At that point it can see through anything xray included.

Xray vision and micro vision aren't the same! and lol at implying Sharingan has Xray vision

Neji against Naruto had every means to use his byakugan insight to look for the real source of Naruto power.

Which he did :lol

Sasuke can easily do it with his 3 tomoe sharingan because

Yet he didn't during VOT

Sharingan > Byakugan insight.

denying facts to the bitter end

 

[Umari Senju]

If Saske was able to set off his chakra from Deidara's, it must mean that he can see chakra signatures.

From I understand yes. Every chakra signature gives off a color according to Sharingan eyes. So where a Sage or sensor can sense chakra signatures an Uchiha can literally see them with their Sharingan. I can imagine when Deidara blew up that large clay version of himself it look like one giant cloud of Deidara's chakra coming at him.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Confirmation means we have feats to back the hype. We dont not enough anyways.



Did they even have a reason to see tenketsu. They are not gentle fist users so a sharingan user doing so would no sense. We also have no idea how small of big tenketsu are so thats a moot point. Also how many times we post that sasuke vs diedara for it to sink the sharingan can see on the microscopic level. At that point it can see through anything xray included.




Neji against Naruto had every means to use his byakugan insight to look for the real source of Naruto power. Sasuke can easily do it with his 3 tomoe sharingan because Sharingan > Byakugan insight. Its quite simple. :tea:

Now you are just trolling and talking nonsense.

 

[Reboryushon]

Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

If you read manga you will find answer there

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Insight in this case is related to perception/awareness/intuition. It is different from microscopic ability. Unless Deidara bugs are made of Chakra, then the Sharingan and the Byakugan are on the same level in this case.

Also, bad example from the OP in my opinion.

 

[Logic1992]

If im not mistaken Kakashi attempted to count Rasenshuriken's small wind blades which attacks the chakra circulatory system on a celular level.

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Kakashi was seeing these tiny blades from a distance unlike Sasuke , so i'd assume that he has pretty good knowledge of what the 3-T is capable of in terms of insight yet he said Byakugan>>>Sharingan in this regard "Completely'..

 

[shelke]

No, they can't. There is no proof of it.

I was literally about to post this in reply to the other thread. Sasuke could differentiate his own chakra from deidara's in his own body so clearly it can differentiate chakra even on a cellular level.

Watch the hyuuga faps try to play this off.

Exactly, I might post this scan myself there if the argument escalates. Repped. It's pointless to argue with Hyuga wankers, though.

the Byakugan can see very small things like Chakra point something that the Sharingan can't even see so that should answer your question.

And how is that an impressive feat? You think the prick/tip of a pin, which you can see with a naked eye, is smaller than a nano-bomb?

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If im not mistaken Kakashi attempted to count Rasenshuriken's small wind blades which attacks the chakra circulatory system on a celular level.

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Kakashi was seeing these tiny blades from a distance unlike Sasuke so i'd assume that he has pretty good knowledge of what the 3-T is capable of in terms of insight.

Kakashi never saw the blades. That was Tsunade's analysis:

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His opinion on the workings of a Sharingan is completely pointless and useless.

 

[WalksInShadows]

What the he'll are you talking about? This isn't a novel. Kishi doesn't talk through narration in Naruto, he speaks through characters. So, whatever Kishi says through a character's mouth is MANGA FACT. Damn.

that's not always true, otherwise "Tobi" would've been Madara, Hagoromo would've been the creator of ninjutsu, and Naruto wouldn't be Hokage. Just because something gets stated at an earlier point in the story doesn't mean it can never be proven otherwise or become debatable at a later time. Kishimoto had characters say a lot of things that ended up being proven otherwise.

 

[Made in Heaven]

that's not always true, otherwise "Tobi" would've been Madara, Hagoromo would've been the creator of ninjutsu, and Naruto wouldn't be Hokage. Just because something gets stated at an earlier point in the story doesn't mean it can never be proven otherwise or become an arguable discussion at a later time. Kishimoto had characters say a lot of things that ended up being proven otherwise.

Except both of those were deliberately disproven. The only way to disprove Byakugan's insight being inferior is to downright say it isn't superior to 3T.

 

[WalksInShadows]

Except both of those were deliberately disproven. The only way to disprove Byakugan's insight being inferior is to downright say it isn't superior to 3T.

you've read everything except the part where i said "becomes an arguable discussion". The fact that Sasuke was able to recognize Deidara's chakra signature at a cellular lvl makes it debatable, whether you care to accept it or not.