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Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

So let me get this straight.

You believe Itachi's tsukuyomi works on Hyuga "because the manga said so", Despite there being lack of feats of it working, Yet you do not believe the byakugan's insight is above the sharingan's despite the manga also stating so and you want proof of this yet require none for the tsukuyomi thing?.

because theres nothing stopping the Tsukuyomi from working on the Hyuuga. Byakugan insight above the sharingan is just a rumor by Kakashi at this point. Kakashi only had 1 sharingan and two he only had half the potential of any real Uchiha because of his blood. He needed to have more experience and training to be on par with the greats. He uses it well but his ability was always limited.
 

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Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

So let me get this straight.

You believe Itachi's tsukuyomi works on Hyuga "because the manga said so", Despite there being lack of feats of it working, Yet you do not believe the byakugan's insight is above the sharingan's despite the manga also stating so and you want proof of this yet require none for the tsukuyomi thing?.

It's a typical hypocrite comment, I wouldn't take it seriously. The answer to his question is that yes it could see it and there's no way for him to prove otherwise.

There is a manga stated law on tsukiyomi so that clearly doesn't apply. Just because kakashi says the byakugan has greater insight does not mean it can do everything the Sharingan can in terms of seeing into an opponent. Firstly, kakashi is not an expert on the Sharingan and could have been speaking from experience.

I am not saying the Sharingan can do everything the byakugan can obviously. Just saying this particular situation, byakugan has never shown that feat. It can see organs and tenketsu but until it is shown to see individual cells, it cannot.

Relying on "the byakugan has greater insight" phrase is silly. Can the byakugan also enter Naruto's mind to see and talk to the kyuubi? No. Isn't that part of insight? Kakashi didn't even know this or couldn't do this as he would have been able to keep Naruto under control when kyuubi started taking over but he needed yamato for this(again kakashi is not a Sharingan know all)
 

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Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

There is a manga stated law on tsukiyomi so that clearly doesn't apply. Just because kakashi says the byakugan has greater insight does not mean it can do everything the Sharingan can in terms of seeing into an opponent. Firstly, kakashi is not an expert on the Sharingan and could have been speaking from experience.

I am not saying the Sharingan can do everything the byakugan can obviously. Just saying this particular situation, byakugan has never shown that feat. It can see organs and tenketsu but until it is shown to see individual cells, it cannot.

Relying on "the byakugan has greater insight" phrase is silly. Can the byakugan also enter Naruto's mind to see and talk to the kyuubi? No. Isn't that part of insight? Kakashi didn't even know this or couldn't do this as he would have been able to keep Naruto under control when kyuubi started taking over but he needed yamato for this(again kakashi is not a Sharingan know all)


Kakashi dont even know about izanagi or izanami. Kakashi dont know shit about sharingan b. Good post.
 

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Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

So let me get this straight.

You believe Itachi's tsukuyomi works on Hyuga "because the manga said so", Despite there being lack of feats of it working, Yet you do not believe the byakugan's insight is above the sharingan's despite the manga also stating so and you want proof of this yet require none for the tsukuyomi thing?.

OP is simply trolling ,but that guy is actually a idiot.
 

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Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

There is a manga stated law on tsukiyomi so that clearly doesn't apply. Just because kakashi says the byakugan has greater insight does not mean it can do everything the Sharingan can in terms of seeing into an opponent. Firstly, kakashi is not an expert on the Sharingan and could have been speaking from experience.

I am not saying the Sharingan can do everything the byakugan can obviously. Just saying this particular situation, byakugan has never shown that feat. It can see organs and tenketsu but until it is shown to see individual cells, it cannot.

Relying on "the byakugan has greater insight" phrase is silly. Can the byakugan also enter Naruto's mind to see and talk to the kyuubi? No. Isn't that part of insight? Kakashi didn't even know this or couldn't do this as he would have been able to keep Naruto under control when kyuubi started taking over but he needed yamato for this(again kakashi is not a Sharingan know all)

Yeah don't really care for your opinion mate. Until the Manga says otherwise it can, not going to change my mind cause you think it can't.
 

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Kakashi dont even know about izanagi or izanami. Kakashi dont know shit about sharingan b. Good post.

Kakashi don´t know sh1t about Byakugan too, so its pretty clear his statement was something already established.
 

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Kakashi don´t know sh1t about Byakugan too, so its pretty clear his statement was something already established.

Everyone knows about it. Its not all that secretive.
 

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There is a manga stated law on tsukiyomi so that clearly doesn't apply. Just because kakashi says the byakugan has greater insight does not mean it can do everything the Sharingan can in terms of seeing into an opponent. Firstly, kakashi is not an expert on the Sharingan and could have been speaking from experience.

It's as Mori said, it's just you being an hypocrite.

Your taking Itachi's words as absolute facts, even though he could've been speaking from experience due to never fighting Hyuga/Perfect jins and so on. See, I can play that game to.

If you want to play the feats game, lets go. Until you show feats, Hyuga > tsukuyomi.
 

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:lmao: :sigar: :win:

Think this is a horrible comparison. Not only was the seal still strong at the time Neji fought Naruto, Jiraiya had just recently patched it up. Sasuke could probably see Kurama in early part 2 because the seal was weakened.. supported by the fact it didn't take much for Naruto to sprout 3 tails out of the blue as opposed to the only chakra version vs Neji and .

Possibly also explains why Obito had to wait till Kushina was about to give birth because her own seal couldn't possibly get weaker otherwise especially since she's well versed in sealing techs.

OT: Yes.
 
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It's as Mori said, it's just you being an hypocrite.

Your taking Itachi's words as absolute facts, even though he could've been speaking from experience due to never fighting Hyuga/Perfect jins and so on. See, I can play that game to.

If you want to play the feats game, lets go. Until you show feats, Hyuga > tsukuyomi.

Wouldn't itachi be a literal expert on his own tech?

Not being a hypocrite. Byakugan has great insight in lots of things, but it cannot do everything the sharingan can in insight, and vice versa. I'm actually tired of this argument now. bye
 

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Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

Can you see microscopic things using the telescope?
or can you see distant things using a microscope?
hyugas logic :lmao:

What the **** are you smoking? They both magnify, I fail to understand your retarded logic.
 
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Think this is a horrible comparison. Not only was the seal still strong at the time Neji fought Naruto, Jiraiya had just recently patched it up. Sasuke could probably see Kurama in early part 2 because the seal was weakened.. supported by the fact it didn't take much for Naruto to sprout 3 tails out of the blue as opposed to the only chakra version vs Neji and .

Possibly also explains why Obito had to wait till Kushina was about to give birth because her own seal couldn't possibly get weaker otherwise especially since she's well versed in sealing techs.

OT: Yes.

Sasuke could see it because he became more experienced with his sharingan and even suppressed kurama power :sigar: The seal needed to be weaker for extraction its not the same at all. :sigar:
 

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A Sharingan user says Byakugan is completely above Sharingan in insight, but that doesn't count because salt? lol

Sasuke could see it because he became more experienced with his sharingan and even suppressed kurama power :sigar: The seal needed to be weaker for extraction its not the same at all. :sigar:

Orochimaru also saw Kurama like that when he was sensing Naruto's power. It's more than apparent it isn't literal and simply Sasuke seeing the Bijuu chakra within Naruto via Sharingan, something he couldn't previously do in VOTE, though both Neji and Momoshiki could do fine.
 

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A Sharingan user says Byakugan is completely above Sharingan in insight, but that doesn't count because salt? lol



Orochimaru also saw Kurama like that when he was sensing Naruto's power. It's more than apparent it isn't literal and simply Sasuke seeing the Bijuu chakra within Naruto via Sharingan, something he couldn't previously do in VOTE, though both Neji and Momoshiki could do fine.

It doesn't count because it was later disproven like alot of p1 facts. Kakashi doesnt even have a grasp of the sharingan true powers. Orochimaru can barely see what Sasuke saw. He saw the seal and much leakage of the nine tails power, sasuke already did what Neji did lmfao. Byakugan = 2tomoe sharingan-3tomoe in perception but not expert level like we witness.
 

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Re: can the byakugan see ..... !!

There is a manga stated law on tsukiyomi so that clearly doesn't apply.

What's the difference here outside of your own subjective opinion?

Just because kakashi says the byakugan has greater insight does not mean it can do everything the Sharingan can in terms of seeing into an opponent.

I agree, Byakugan doesn't have microscopic vision, but that has no relation to what INSIGHT even means.
Firstly, kakashi is not an expert on the Sharingan and could have been speaking from experience.

Guy who has 3T in his damn eye socket for 20 years isn't an expert huh?

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am not saying the Sharingan can do everything the byakugan can obviously. Just saying this particular situation, byakugan has never shown that feat. It can see organs and tenketsu but until it is shown to see individual cells, it cannot.

Agree, but this has nothing to do with insight, so I dont see why you are trying to discredit what Kakashi said.

Relying on "the byakugan has greater insight" phrase is silly. Can the byakugan also enter Naruto's mind to see and talk to the kyuubi? No. Isn't that part of insight? Kakashi didn't even know this or couldn't do this as he would have been able to keep Naruto under control when kyuubi started taking over but he needed yamato for this(again kakashi is not a Sharingan know all)

Orochimaru also saw Kurama like that when he was sensing Naruto's power. It's more than apparent it isn't literal and simply Sasuke seeing the Bijuu chakra within Naruto via Sharingan, something he couldn't previously do in VOTE, though both Neji and Momoshiki could do fine. As for talking to Kurama directly, that is not an insight feat, unless Bee entering Naruto's mind also counts as an insight feat :lol
 

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It doesn't count because it was later disproven like alot of p1 facts.

It was never disproven. Until a character with more credibility than a 3T user says that Byakugan is inferior in insight to Sharingan, it will never be disproven, since there is nothing to suggest otherwise.

Kakashi doesnt even have a grasp of the sharingan true powers.

Maybe in relation to controlling bijuus and MS, but in terms of basic insight abilities, no. He was an expert with 3T's insight, using it to fool Zabuza and mimic movements and understand speech patterns and w/e else.
Orochimaru can barely see what Sasuke saw.

Not the point. It doesn't change the fact that he saw what he saw, even if it was below what Sasuke saw, so it means it isn't litral, and just sensing/seeing the power withing Naruto


Byakugan = 2tomoe sharingan-3tomoe in perception but not expert level like we witness.

Like I've always said, obviously power depends on user, but assuming the eyes are at equal level, then Byakugan is superior.
 

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It was never disproven. Until a character with more credibility than a 3T user says that Byakugan is inferior in insight to Sharingan, it will never be disproven, since there is nothing to suggest otherwise.



Maybe in relation to controlling bijuus and MS, but in terms of basic insight abilities, no. He was an expert with 3T's insight, using it to fool Zabuza and mimic movements and understand speech patterns and w/e else.


Not the point. It doesn't change the fact that he saw what he saw, even if it was below what Sasuke saw, so it means it isn't litral, and just sensing/seeing the power withing Naruto




Like I've always said, obviously power depends on user, but assuming the eyes are at equal level, then Byakugan is superior.

Kakashi most profound ability with the sharingan is the copy wheel not insight or else he would have subdued Kurama himself. Kakahsi was weak sharingan user. Part 1 facts are outdated feats > hype. Sharingan betteer in almost every way. Add insight to the list now.
 

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People disregard facts to push their narrative. lol goofys.
 

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Kakashi most profound ability with the sharingan is the copy wheel not insight

The copying feat uses insight though

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or else he would have subdued Kurama himself.
Kakahsi was weak sharingan user.
Mind control of bijuus has nothing to do with insight. And lol Kakashi was not talking of his own abilities, but the eyes' powers in general, so using his feats means nothing when Kakashi wasn't even saying "the Byakugan is better than my Sharingan" but saying "the Byakugan is better than the Sharingan"

Part 1 facts are outdated feats > hype.

Keep denying what the author has said I guess
 
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