DMS Kakashi and PS Raikeri

[BenjerminGaye]

No.. The same reason why he didn't use Susanoo chidori on Kaguya and the same reason why Madara and Sasuke did use katon through Susanoo

madara's susanno already performed jutsu tho... so that's kinda moot.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Sasuke didn't use Biju PS in the Boruto movie but he did use the same Susanoo he use in VOTE2 and in the Boruto movie that didn't require bijuu so obviously it's not a bijuu PS.

I stop responding because it becomes a waste of time to repeat our opinions over and over.. if I can't change your mind and I can't change yours, then it would be a never ending cycle especially since to manga facts can be proven on who wins..

He didn't use the same Susano .he coated Kuarma avatar with PS in the same way he coated the combined chakra of the biju .that not him still having IA or senjutsu/biju chakra filled Susano .

Whatever .but when I bring up a manga scan that frankly disproves your idea or your claim .you can't just ignore it and say I can't change his opinion and he can't change mine so let's stop responding to him.that is not how it works.

 

[DHOH]

He didn't use the same Susano .he coated Kuarma avatar with PS in the same way he coated the combined chakra of the biju .that not him still having IA or senjutsu/biju chakra filled Susano .

Whatever .but when I bring up a manga scan that frankly disproves your idea or your claim .you can't just ignore it and say I can't change his opinion and he can't change mine so let's stop responding to him.that is not how it works.

Well he did use the same Susanoo but with less power. It was the same design as the bijuu Susanoo. Sasuke didn't coat the bijuu chakra, he combined it.
He formed the same Susanoo without the combination of all the bijuu chakra... Meanig he doesn't need bijuu to formed it. Sasuke has Rikodou chakra, which is basically Senjutsu, that's how he formed the same Susanoo just on a less powerful scale.
I don't see why Sasuke could form a weaker version of IA since he has the Same Susanoo that performs IA.

You bing up manga scans and put your own twist to it.. just like the NE sensing scan.
You seem like a cool guy so we can continue to talk about any topic you like.

 

[Eng nawashi]

Well he did use the same Susanoo but with less power. It was the same design as the bijuu Susanoo. Sasuke didn't coat the bijuu chakra, he combined it.
He formed the same Susanoo without the combination of all the bijuu chakra... Meanig he doesn't need bijuu to formed it. Sasuke has Rikodou chakra, which is basically Senjutsu, that's how he formed the same Susanoo just on a less powerful scale.
I don't see why Sasuke could form a weaker version of IA since he has the Same Susanoo that performs IA.

You bing up manga scans and put your own twist to it.. just like the NE sensing scan.
You seem like a cool guy so we can continue to talk about any topic you like.

what really matters is the humanoid chakra body that fills the susano which is the real source of all its new showcased power .in vote 2 susano acted as a vessel for the combined chakra of biju as stated by kuarma .if there is any analogy between boruto movie Susano and vote2 susano it will be that kuarma avatar has replaced the humanoid chakra body in vote2 .so yeah boruto movie Susano is quite similar to vote2 susano but only because kuarma avatar has replaced biju chakra .Sasuke can't make this humanoid chakra body with his own chakra which is the reason why he can't replicate BPS by himself .
as for IA .even if sasuke can manipulate lightening through his regular PS in the shape of IA ,there is no way to gauge its power and size without the supply of biju considering that vote2 IA requires enermous amount of chakra that dwarfs Sasuke's own chakra .

I wasn't talking about NE sensing scan since it didn't frankly disprove you and I needed some explanation in order to prove why it proves that Sasuke can't casually sense regular amounts of NE while he is fighting Naruto in CQC.
The scans that frankly proved you wrong was the one of Sasuke's stating that he used too much chakra and the one which shows that even sage shinobies(Sasuke isn't one)while not being in SM ,can't feel or sense NE without being stationary.
Thanx man you are cool too .

 

[DHOH]

what really matters is the humanoid chakra body that fills the susano which is the real source of all its new showcased power .in vote 2 susano acted as a vessel for the combined chakra of biju as stated by kuarma .if there is any analogy between boruto movie Susano and vote2 susano it will be that kuarma avatar has replaced the humanoid chakra body in vote2 .so yeah boruto movie Susano is quite similar to vote2 susano but only because kuarma avatar has replaced biju chakra .Sasuke can't make this humanoid chakra body with his own chakra which is the reason why he can't replicate BPS by himself .
as for IA .even if sasuke can manipulate lightening through his regular PS in the shape of IA ,there is no way to gauge its power and size without the supply of biju considering that vote2 IA requires enermous amount of chakra that dwarfs Sasuke's own chakra .

I wasn't talking about NE sensing scan since it didn't frankly disprove you and I needed some explanation in order to prove why it proves that Sasuke can't casually sense regular amounts of NE while he is fighting Naruto in CQC.
The scans that frankly proved you wrong was the one of Sasuke's stating that he used too much chakra and the one which shows that even sage shinobies(Sasuke isn't one)while not being in SM ,can't feel or sense NE without being stationary.
Thanx man you are cool too .

The first thing everyone was saying is that Sasuke needs all the bijuu, then he needs bijuu chakra, now he just needs enough chakra to fill in Susanoo.

Sasuke's Susanoo acted as more than just a vessel,A vessel is just a container. Sasuke's Susanoo acted as a huge mixing pot, which combine all nine bijuu chakra and contain it, that's exactly one of the main functions to the Gedo Mazo. Which creates a new chakra/Senjutsu/.

Bijuu chakra is just a huge amount of chakra, Kurama's chakra isn't what fuel Sasuke's Susanoo. It's the Senjutsu in Naruto that fuel it. On top of that Sasuke and Naruto both were weaken badly before form that Susanoo. Sasuke weaken by traveling 8 people through his portal and Naruto was weaken from Momshiki attack and having his chakra drain.

Sasuke is a Uchiha with strong chakra and well above average reserves, and is evident that his chakra has only grown more by opening deminsions, a feat he couldn't do as a teen and a feat Obito called nearly impossible for the amount of chakra it takes. Then you add Indra's chakra(transmigrated), Itachi's chakra (EMS), Hagoromo's chakra(Rinnengan), Hashirama's cells on top of a full Matured Adult Sasuke. It's entirely possible for him to fuel Susanoo by himself.

I will agree the scan saying Sasuke use to much chakra is proof but I would like to see if the VI's scan says something different. But you are correct.

 

[Eng nawashi]

The first thing everyone was saying is that Sasuke needs all the bijuu, then he needs bijuu chakra, now he just needs enough chakra to fill in Susanoo.

In order to exactly replicate BPS ,he needs both the same quality and quantity of chakra that filled PS .

Sasuke's Susanoo acted as more than just a vessel,A vessel is just a container. Sasuke's Susanoo acted as a huge mixing pot, which combine all nine bijuu chakra and contain it, that's exactly one of the main functions to the Gedo Mazo. Which creates a new chakra/Senjutsu/.

In other words It acted as a vessel for the combined chakra of biju .

Bijuu chakra is just a huge amount of chakra, Kurama's chakra isn't what fuel Sasuke's Susanoo. It's the Senjutsu in Naruto that fuel it. On top of that Sasuke and Naruto both were weaken badly before form that Susanoo. Sasuke weaken by traveling 8 people through his portal and Naruto was weaken from Momshiki attack and having his chakra drain.

Not really .if RSM kuama avatar enhanced PS's layer in any way then it would be by both kuarma and senjutsu's chakra .but it doesn't really matters how it enhances the outer susano layer .BPS is that strong because of the humanoid chakra body created by the combined chakra of biju .that is where IA and lightening senbons come from .

Sasuke is a Uchiha with strong chakra and well above average reserves, and is evident that his chakra has only grown more by opening deminsions, a feat he couldn't do as a teen and a feat Obito called nearly impossible for the amount of chakra it takes. Then you add Indra's chakra(transmigrated), Itachi's chakra (EMS), Hagoromo's chakra(Rinnengan), Hashirama's cells on top of a full Matured Adult Sasuke. It's entirely possible for him to fuel Susanoo by himself.

Having chakra above average isn't enough to replicate a feat achieved by the combined chakra of 9 biju .him opening portals to kaguya dimension is good and all but not enough .Teen Sakura had enough chakra to open like 4 of these portals .I don't think Sakura has as much chakra as IA needed .

BPS is a perfect Susano that contains huge amount of externally supplied chakra that can be used to make new powerful attacks like IA .in theory if Sasuke had enough chakra to make IA by himself ,he wouldnt need to fill his susano by his own chakra that takes a form of humanoid body then use IA .that is kinda moot .he would just channel his chakra through his regular PS and use IA .there is no point in Sasuke creating BPS by his own chakra since it wouldnt be any stronger than his regular PS .he would be just having his own chakra held by Susano instead of his own body.that doesn't make sense .

I will agree the scan saying Sasuke use to much chakra is proof but I would like to see if the VI's scan says something different. But you are correct.

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[DHOH]

In order to exactly replicate BPS ,he needs both the same quality and quantity of chakra that filled PS .


In other words It acted as a vessel for the combined chakra of biju .


Not really .if RSM kuama avatar enhanced PS's layer in any way then it would be by both kuarma and senjutsu's chakra .but it doesn't really matters how it enhances the outer susano layer .BPS is that strong because of the humanoid chakra body created by the combined chakra of biju .that is where IA and lightening senbons come from .


Having chakra above average isn't enough to replicate a feat achieved by the combined chakra of 9 biju .him opening portals to kaguya dimension is good and all but not enough .Teen Sakura had enough chakra to open like 4 of these portals .I don't think Sakura has as much chakra as IA needed .

BPS is a perfect Susano that contains huge amount of externally supplied chakra that can be used to make new powerful attacks like IA .in theory if Sasuke had enough chakra to make IA by himself ,he wouldnt need to fill his susano by his own chakra that takes a form of humanoid body then use IA .that is kinda moot .he would just channel his chakra through his regular PS and use IA .there is no point in Sasuke creating BPS by his own chakra since it wouldnt be any stronger than his regular PS .he would be just having his own chakra held by Susano instead of his own body.that doesn't make sense .


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As I said, it would be a weaker version. The quality is there, the quantity isn't.

Yea, for the most part.

So your saying Sasuke can make the armor but can filled the armor with his own chakra?

Teen Sakura that has been storing ,saving and collecting chakra for three years. And adding in Obito' chakra that seems like a lot of chakra to me.

External chakras is speculation.. look how All Susanoo are formed. Form rib cage, bone, flesh, body, and armor.. Now Sasuke can make the last stage of Susanoo(armor) but can't fill it in? I'm not buying it. It takes a stronger form of Susanoo to use IA just like it takes a stronger form of Kurama's avatar to use those two Resengans.
If Sasuke Susanoo would be any stronger then what's the point of inventing a new form of PS? That's like saying PS isn't stronger then legged Susanoo and legged Susanoo can't do all the jutsu as PS.

The viz scan prove you are correct.