Questions about sasukes chibaku tensei and rinnegan powers

[Jiren]

Solo clap too stronk he can use it with or without genjutsu. I loving this fanfic about CT needing genjutsu tho carry on

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

We don't know if he can or has those abilities so there is no way for me to answer that. Obito and Madara didn't use them at all so maybe only some people have them?

Either way, that's not enough to say he's inexperienced at Rinnegan just because he doesn't have all the powers. His control over the Rinnegan was very fast, he learned many of its powers in less than a day after gaining it. Logically over 15 years he would have mastered it

But thats irreleavant. Over 15 years sasuke should have mastered the ability to use coreless CT. Logically he would just clap his hands and win all the fights. But he can't, why? Because like I said, he has to restrain the opponent. Either that or it was a permanent nerf. Choose one

@bold: are ****ing with me? They do have the ''ability''. It's actually a matter of whether they have the skill, and for Sasuke thus far, I'd say he just didn't care enough about them, or just nerfed like I've been saying.

If you didn't master something, that's equivalent to inexperience.

His control over Rinnegan? Pft... more like his control over Ameno, because really, what other Rinnegan ability did he show in the movie other than Ameno? And yeah, logic says 15 years would have been enough, but apparently, Sasuke can't use Deva abilities in the movie when he evinced that ability in VoTE 2...

As with CT, I wouldn't know. He only showed it once, and when he did, his subjects were caster under genjutsu. And we don't know the premise behind a coreless CT, so we can't say for certain whether he can't just do that. But I'd say since he could do it with all those Tailed Beasts, it'd be easier for just one person. But I'm not saying that's possible either.

 

[Illuminater]

Solo clap too stronk he can use it with or without genjutsu. I loving this fanfic about CT needing genjutsu tho carry on

Then he would've used it against momo, kin, or sasuke. Or it was nerfed permanently. Naruto and sasuke were stated to be equal. If he had coreless chibaku tensei that didn't require genjutsu or restraining then he would be stronger.

So there's three possibilities

He was nerfed permanently
It wasn't nerfed just requires restraining victim (like in the naruto game he used susanoo arrows before using it)
Or it is indeed as OP as it sounds and we just don't know enough about it (which means we can't use it in vs battles since its too mysterious)

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

dude sasuke dont even know how implant a sharingan into his eye socket..he begged tobidara to implant them for him...my advice : go fanboy another manga character...forexempel try tobidara he's such a badass character...

Lmao, you're dumb af...

He didn't beg that fodder.

He ordered him...

Obito was fodder brate:

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[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Then he would've used it against momo, kin, or sasuke. Or it was nerfed permanently. Naruto and sasuke were stated to be equal. If he had coreless chibaku tensei that didn't require genjutsu or restraining then he would be stronger.

So there's three possibilities

He was nerfed permanently
It wasn't nerfed just requires restraining victim (like in the naruto game he used susanoo arrows before using it)
Or it is indeed as OP as it sounds and we just don't know enough about it (which means we can't use it in vs battles since its too mysterious)

If Naruto could still use the Lava Rasenshuriken, he would have used it against Kinshi.

See that logic? :kk:

We could also say that Naruto needed Hagoromo's seal to use it, since he's never shown to use it ever since he lost the seal.

Your logic is flawed af bro...

 

[Illuminater]

@bold: are ****ing with me? They do have the ''ability''. It's actually a matter of whether they have the skill, and for Sasuke thus far, I'd say he just didn't care enough about them, or just nerfed like I've been saying.

If you didn't master something, that's equivalent to inexperience.

His control over Rinnegan? Pft... more like his control over Ameno, because really, what other Rinnegan ability did he show in the movie other than Ameno? And yeah, logic says 15 years would have been enough, but apparently, Sasuke can't use Deva abilities in the movie when he evinced that ability in VoTE 2...

As with CT, I wouldn't know. He only showed it once, and when he did, his subjects were caster under genjutsu. And we don't know the premise behind a coreless CT, so we can't say for certain whether he can't just do that. But I'd say since he could do it with all those Tailed Beasts, it'd be easier for just one person. But I'm not saying that's possible either.

Okay, your right about Sasuke having the ability to use it, not necessarily having the skill. What I said in bold was to bring up the possibility of him not having it.

So let me ask, do you think sasuke needs to create a chakra link (like genjutsu) to use coreless CT? In your original post you said he was nerfed so maybe I'm just misunderstanding whether you think he can use it or not, especially in vs debates

 

[Illuminater]

If Naruto could still use the Lava Rasenshuriken, he would have used it against Kinshi.

See that logic? :kk:

We could also say that Naruto needed Hagoromo's seal to use it, since he's never shown to use it ever since he lost the seal.

Your logic is flawed af bro...

Yeah just because a character rarely uses a power doesnt mean they cant. But coreless CT is such an OP haxed power that (apparently) doesn't require much effort, that he would've used it against kinshiki, momo, and naruto. Those were battles that decided the fate of the entire world. He used ALL of his other rinnegan powers, including AMATERASU from his MS but not coreless CT? Again, he either has to restrain them or he has to restrain them completely.

So yeah, either restrain or its permanently nerfed/removed (to make him equal to naruto)

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Not true. First of all I'm going to assume that by kinshi you mean Kinshiki. Lava Shuriken isn't necessary to use, it's literally a normal rasenshuriken just with lava. I understand your MAIN REAL point and I will address it.

Yes, just because they never used it in a while doesnt mean they cant. But coreless CT is such an OP haxed power that (apparently) doesn't require much effort, therefore he would've used it against kinshiki, momo, and naruto. Those were battles that decided the fate of the entire world. He used ALL of his other rinnegan powers, including AMATERASU from his MS but not coreless CT? Thats because he has to restrain them just like I theorized!

Think about it logically bro. That fight between Sasuke and Naruto focused on only the both of them. So naturally, we would see them go all out...

Boruto the movie, however, was focused on Boruto despite the fight being mostly Sasuke and Naruto VS the aliens. An unnerfed Sasuke and unnerfed Naruto would totally have wrecked them. Did Naruto even use his shadow clone technique? Sasuke too didn't use most of his lightning techniques and was constantly using Ameno as if that was the only technique he knew.

Let's say both went all out and used their most haxed abilities.

Sasuke used coreless CT, and Naruto used that OP Rasenshuriken technique.

This technique actually. Let's say Naruto used this:

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Would Boruto have gotten a chance to shine even remotely?

Let's say this Kinshi hurt Boruto, like almost killed him. We would see something like this:

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That'd be going all out.

 

[Jiren]

Then he would've used it against momo, kin, or sasuke. Or it was nerfed permanently. Naruto and sasuke were stated to be equal. If he had coreless chibaku tensei that didn't require genjutsu or restraining then he would be stronger.

So there's three possibilities

He was nerfed permanently
It wasn't nerfed just requires restraining victim (like in the naruto game he used susanoo arrows before using it)
Or it is indeed as OP as it sounds and we just don't know enough about it (which means we can't use it in vs battles since its too mysterious)

Sasuke didn't use chidori blade until his final encounter with kinshiki and it immediately destroyed his blade
Sasuke didn't even use PS in the boruto movie so what are you talking about. Sasuke was hella nerfed

 

[Illuminater]

Think about it logically bro. That fight between Sasuke and Naruto focused on only the both of them. So naturally, we would see them go all out...

Boruto the movie, however, was focused on Boruto despite the fight being mostly Sasuke and Naruto VS the aliens. An unnerfed Sasuke and unnerfed Naruto would totally have wrecked them. Did Naruto even use his shadow clone technique? Sasuke too didn't use most of his lightning techniques and was constantly using Ameno as if that was the only technique he knew.

Let's say both went all out and used their most haxed abilities.

Sasuke used coreless CT, and Naruto used that OP Rasenshuriken technique.

This technique actually. Let's say Naruto used this:

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Would Boruto have gotten a chance to shine even remotely?

Momoshiki would've just absorbed those rasenshurikens. And I don't see your logic at all, hax powers have never been excluded from a fight out of fear of ending it too quickly or ruining. Sasuke had access to amaterasu, susanoo, ameno, and absorbtion when he fought naruto. His CT was left out because he couldnt use it as easily as you think.

 

[Illuminater]

Sasuke didn't use chidori blade until his final encounter with kinshiki and it immediately destroyed his blade
Sasuke didn't even use PS in the boruto movie so what are you talking about. Sasuke was hella nerfed

That black and blue flame broke kinshikis blade probably because he was caught off guard. Its illogical to think that sasuke is so strong that he can defeat him that easily. And kinshiki can absorb ninjutsu which is why he didnt use ninjutsu on kinshiki

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Momoshiki would've just absorbed those rasenshurikens. And I don't see your logic at all, hax powers have never been excluded from a fight out of fear of ending it too quickly or ruining. Sasuke had access to amaterasu, susanoo, ameno, and absorbtion when he fought naruto. His CT was left out because he couldnt use it as easily as you think.

My point is, if Naruto and Sasuke weren't nefed, there wouldn't even be a fight to begin with. :kk:

@bold 1: Kaguya couldn't. Why would Kinshiki be able to do it? He has two hands, not 6+...

@bold 2: you've said it yourself. And coreles CT is one of those hax powers that needed exclusion.

 

[Jiren]

Then why didnt he use it on Naruto

Like bruh why is the sky blue. Kishi never said why and he sure didn't say CT requires genjutsu. Databook puts Sasuke as CT user. It's just a coreless Ct Sasuke manifested his own version of sorts it's OP that's why he never uses it again

 

[Illuminater]

My point is, if Naruto and Sasuke weren't nefed, there wouldn't even be a fight to begin with. :kk:

@bold 1: Kaguya couldn't. Why would Kinshiki be able to do it? He has two hands, not 6+...

@bold 2: you've said it yourself. And coreles CT is one of those hax powers that needed exclusion.

"@bold 2: you've said it yourself. And coreles CT is one of those hax powers that needed exclusion."

Bruh, ALL OF Sasukes haxed powers were used in the final fight. You're not the author so you can't decide whether they were nerfed or not. Sasuke still used Amaterasu, Susanoo, Ameno, and chakra absorption. Coreless CT wasn't used because he has to restrain Naruto or maybe he just can't it...
I don't ever remember a Naruto fight where a characters powers were excluded just to make the fight longer/better.
Naruto was still OP against Toneri
Deidara still had C4 against Sasuke
Danzo still had izanagi against Sasuke
Killerbee still had his bijuu against Sasuke

Do you see the trend? Kishi doesn't exclude OP powers just to make a fight longer or whatever you think makes it better.

Do you agree that he doesn't have coreless CT or not?

 

[Illuminater]

Like bruh why is the sky blue. Kishi never said why and he sure didn't say CT requires genjutsu. Databook puts Sasuke as CT user. It's just a coreless Ct Sasuke manifested his own version of sorts it's OP that's why he never uses it again

Okay so either way you agree that he doesn't have the power (permanent nerf)? which still proves my point

 

[Jiren]

You didn't answer the question. And I know we don't know enough about coreless CT to understand it. We're suposed to use our ****ing BRAINS and the information we currently have to see why.

LETS SEE

Genjutsu on restrained bijuus? CHECK
CORELESS CT? CHECK
NEVER USED IT ON MOMO, Kin, and Naruto? CHECK

Clearly the opponent needs to be restrained in order for it to work.

When did the opponent ever need to be restrained for CT to work tho bruh. He only used it once on the nine bijuu who were aiming to attack him had he not used genjutsu first. :lol: your assumption is baseless mate

 

[Illuminater]

When did the opponent ever need to be restrained for CT to work tho bruh. He only used it once on the nine bijuu who were aiming to attack him had he not used genjutsu first. :lol: your assumption is baseless mate

Because that's the only time he ever ****ing used it. I highly doubt Kishi gave him a power where he can just turn anyone into a ****ing core. He would've used it on momo, kinshiki, and naruto if that was possible.

CLEARLY it was a permanent nerf where he can't use it ever. Or the opponent must be restrained which is the most logical reason. If he could just clap his hands his statement on NARUTO AND SASUKE BEING EQUAL WOULD BE WRONG.

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[Tauren Chieftain]

Even if he can use it without genjutsu its useless against OP opponents who will simply cut or evade incoming rock like Kinshiki would for example.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

"@bold 2: you've said it yourself. And coreles CT is one of those hax powers that needed exclusion."

Bruh, ALL OF Sasukes haxed powers were used in the final fight. You're not the author so you can't decide whether they were nerfed or not. Sasuke still used Amaterasu, Susanoo, Ameno, and chakra absorption. Coreless CT wasn't used because he has to restrain Naruto or maybe he just can't it...
I don't ever remember a Naruto fight where a characters powers were excluded just to make the fight longer/better.
Naruto was still OP against Toneri
Deidara still had C4 against Sasuke
Danzo still had izanagi against Sasuke
Killerbee still had his bijuu against Sasuke

Do you see the trend? Kishi doesn't exclude OP powers just to make a fight longer or whatever you think makes it better.

Do you agree that he doesn't have coreless CT or not?

*sigh*...

Are we still talking about the movie here?

Honestly, I find it stupid to think that Sasuke would use all those jutsu in a fight that didn't go further than 30 minutes max...

Do I agree he doesn't have coreless CT? Lol, you saw it when he used it against all the TB's...


Anyways bro, you can think what you want, lol... maybe he doesn't. And it doesn't matter as it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome of that fight.

 

[Lyke]

Sasuke is the strongest shinobi alive, also he is invincible