The "Naruto doesnt need it" excuse

00Rinne

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Naruto has Rikudo chakra so he can use RSM without the other bijuu.


No he cannot!.. He's a jinchuuriki so he can use BSM with his Bijuu.. (He's stronger now because he has Kurama 100%)

His senjutsu isn't because of RSM but because of his toad SM enhanced by the co-op of his bijuu... When he goes full RSM he has all the Bijuu at his disposal...

Naruto hasn't went full blown RSM because he's a sage with the strongest Bijuu at his disposal.. If you can't get past that, then why go full RSM.. (He saves himself energy an life force)
 

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No he cannot!.. He's a jinchuuriki so he can use BSM with his Bijuu.. (He's stronger now because he has Kurama 100%)

His senjutsu isn't because of RSM but because of his toad SM enhanced by the co-op of his bijuu... When he goes full RSM he has all the Bijuu at his disposal...

Naruto hasn't went full blown RSM because he's a sage with the strongest Bijuu at his disposal.. If you can't get past that, then why go full RSM.. (He saves himself energy an life force)

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No he cannot!.. He's a jinchuuriki so he can use BSM with his Bijuu.. (He's stronger now because he has Kurama 100%)

His senjutsu isn't because of RSM but because of his toad SM enhanced by the co-op of his bijuu... When he goes full RSM he has all the Bijuu at his disposal...

Naruto hasn't went full blown RSM because he's a sage with the strongest Bijuu at his disposal.. If you can't get past that, then why go full RSM.. (He saves himself energy an life force)

What about his first form of RSM??? WHERE HE DIDN'T NEED BIJUU CHAKRA??
 

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No he cannot!.. He's a jinchuuriki so he can use BSM with his Bijuu.. (He's stronger now because he has Kurama 100%)

His senjutsu isn't because of RSM but because of his toad SM enhanced by the co-op of his bijuu... When he goes full RSM he has all the Bijuu at his disposal...

Naruto hasn't went full blown RSM because he's a sage with the strongest Bijuu at his disposal.. If you can't get past that, then why go full RSM.. (He saves himself energy an life force)

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What about his first form of RSM??? WHERE HE DIDN'T NEED BIJUU CHAKRA??

His first form is RSM co-oped by the power he gained from Kurama.. (Not Kurama's power but his own that he fought for) Naruto is a jinchuuriki my man!. he doesn't need all bijuu unless it's need.. His second form is all the bijuu with him along with his own Bijuu being his primary enhancing his already (What I would call base RSM) into the RSM of two staffs & TSB's.. (That's the cloaked RSM with all Bijuu)
 

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Idk why this is still argued when Kishi made it clear. If his chakra cloak doesn't have TSB it's not RSM.


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BSM has pigmentation around the eyes from Toad Sage Mode. His mode from Boruto does not. Thus it is not an ordinary Sage Mode. It's been 2 years now and people still can't seem to grasp that simple concept. The Bijuu cloak could've changed due to Naruto not possessing/not having enough to use the chakras of all 9 Bijuu but the Sage Mode part of it is obviously Rikudo Sage Mode.

Meaning Naruto is no weaker as the other 8 Bijuu added techs that didn't change his overall strength, just made him more well rounded.
 

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BSM has pigmentation around the eyes from Toad Sage Mode. His mode from Boruto does not. Thus it is not an ordinary Sage Mode. It's been 2 years now and people still can't seem to grasp that simple concept. The Bijuu cloak could've changed due to Naruto not possessing/not having enough to use the chakras of all 9 Bijuu but the Sage Mode part of it is obviously Rikudo Sage Mode.

Meaning Naruto is no weaker as the other 8 Bijuu added techs that didn't change his overall strength, just made him more well rounded.

This. Great post.
What's your take on the reason Naruto doesn't have TSB?
 

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This. Great post.
What's your take on the reason Naruto doesn't have TSB?

He used em all up. He used some to seal Limbo, then he lost one when Madara cut it in half, and the rest were destroyed when Indra's Arrow and Dual RS clashed and ripped apart his Avatar and damaged him so heavily that his cloak was torn off leaving his base form injured.

Gudo Dama don't regenerate for Juubi/RSM users nor can they be recreated, so that explains why he doesn't have those.
 

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Naruto still has RSM. Not using a jutsu/ability/power doesn't equal to losing it. If that was the case then a lot characters wouldn't have certain jutsu/ability/power because they haven't used it since the war or only they have only used it once. The pigmentation around his eyes or lack of pigmentation determines if Naruto is using RSM or BSM/chakra sage mode. RSM lacks the pigmentation.

The interesting thing about Naruto's RSM it that it has more than one form. This is RSM Naruto - - which I call his base RSM and this is RSM Naruto - to which I call is full power RSM. The databook confirms both those forms are RSM. It also should be noted that Naruto is able to use the different tail beat chakra individually while in RSM. For example: He just used the 4 tails chakra to create a lava RS - .

If RSM Naruto possesses more than one form and if he can use the different tail beat chakra individually in RSM than that would explain RSM Naruto form in the the gaiden/Boruto manga - . Naruto was using base RSM along with the BM. In other words Naruto in was in base RSM+BM. BM is a jutsu just like lava RS.

Hagoromo told us that Naruto permanently possesses all of the tail beast chakra. That's how the tail beast are able to communicate with each other through Naruto. Naruto ran out of chakra while frighting Sasuke. Yet, after he recovered he was able to use all of the tail beast chakra to help cancel the IT without needing to receive chakra from them. That means all of the tail beast chakra inside Naruto recovered when he recovered. It's just like how the gold and silver brothers permanently possesses the 9 tails chakra. That's the reason their resurrected selves possessed the 9 tails chakra.

At this time there is not evidence or manga fact stating TSB can't be recreated. Remember RSM gives the user the ability to create the TSB not the other way around. So as long as Naruto possess the RSM he should be able to recreated them. Yes, I know what Minato said, but he was basing his information off what he observed at the time. During the war neither Naruto, Madara or Obito was a master at RSM.

The interesting thing about Naruto is he was able to still control and manipulate the TSB in base mode - to - Madara and Obito TSB disappeared when the left RSM.
 
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