Ashura or Minato?

[kiiro]

Hello Base.

Naruto Uzumaki, Transmigrant of Ashura's chakra and also container of Kurama and his chakra. With these things Naruto grew up until the war.

But let me ask you, what helped him the most?

Ashura's chakra or Minato's plan?
Which is the reason of Naruto's success?


For me, I will give the win to Minato. He gave Naruto something that not even a Blood Line cant give.

And who do you pick?

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Kurama bro .

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Ashura's chakra, what kind of question is that? Ashura's chakr even helped Hashirama to get as far as he did.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Ashura's chakra, what kind of question is that? Ashura's chakr even helped Hashirama to get as far as he did.

Hashirama was his own man.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

I'd say... Mizuki
Without him, Naruto wouldn't learn Shadow Clone, and we all know how Shadow Clone made him graduate amd other stuff like mastering Rasengan

Fast forward to Shippuuden and to Jiraiya's death, Naruto masters sage mode but is ultimately restricted by Kurama. Resolution? Shadow Clones. He mastered SM, fought Pain and would meet Minato in the process. He'll learn about Minato's plan.

Proceed to mastering Kyuubi chakra...blah blah
His Shadow Clones were the most part of his battle style against every battle he had including Kurama.

Special Thanks to Tobirama to have created the jutsu.

lmao. Kidding aside, Minato's plan set up everything toward Naruto's learning that he is Ashura's reincarnate.

 

[kiiro]

I'd say... Mizuki
Without him, Naruto wouldn't learn Shadow Clone, and we all know how Shadow Clone made him graduate amd other stuff like mastering Rasengan

Fast forward to Shippuuden and to Jiraiya's death, Naruto masters sage mode but is ultimately restricted by Kurama. Resolution? Shadow Clones. He mastered SM, fought Pain and would meet Minato in the process. He'll learn about Minato's plan.

Proceed to mastering Kyuubi chakra...blah blah
His Shadow Clones were the most part of his battle style against every battle he had including Kurama.

Special Thanks to Tobirama to have created the jutsu.

lmao. Kidding aside, Minato's plan set up everything toward Naruto's learning that he is Ashura's reincarnate.

Rasengan doesn't have nothing with Shadow Clones. Futon Rasen Shuriken does since he used shadow clones to make it faster. But guess what? He used Kurama's chakra in order to use more shadow clones.


Sage mode. Naruto is naturally gifted with large chakra pools. But guess what, it is also thanks to Minato seal which made Kurama's and Naruto's chakra combine naturally. He isn't using Kurama, it is just mixed with his own.

lmao. Kidding aside, Minato's plan set up everything toward Naruto's learning that he is Ashura's reincarnate.

Bold, didn't understand that, what do you mean?

 

[kiiro]

Ashura's chakra, what kind of question is that? Ashura's chakr even helped Hashirama to get as far as he did.

In what did Ashura's chakra help him?

 

[FemmeFatale]

Sakura helped him.

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It was because of her his rasengan exsist

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Rasengan doesn't have nothing with Shadow Clones. Futon Rasen Shuriken does since he used shadow clones to make it faster. But guess what? He used Kurama's chakra in order to use more shadow clones.


Sage mode. Naruto is naturally gifted with large chakra pools. But guess what, it is also thanks to Minato seal which made Kurama's and Naruto's chakra combine naturally. He isn't using Kurama, it is just mixed with his own.



Bold, didn't understand that, what do you mean?

I remember Naruto using shadow clone to create rasengan but yep that is a small thing. Also shadow clones were the ones to refill his sage chakra during Pain Arc but tht was just an astray observation and I was kidding hahha. It was Kurama and Minato essentially.

I meant tht it was Minato's plan that reignited the plot going forward into mastering Kyuini chakra. And Naruto played that role. By the time he needed a new power up, he already befriended not only Kurama but also the other bijuus. Before tapping unto Ashura's chakra, Naruto has already fulfilled Minato's will.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Hashirama was his own man.

True Ashura was fodder and Hashirama was always strong an anomaly to the Ashura bloodline. So was Tobirama another descendant a genious clearly Ashura's fodder gene skipped a generation.

Anyway Kyubi helped Naruto so I'd say Minato's unintentional plan otherwise Naruto would'vebeen Iruka level. Fappers can hate all they like.

 

[kiiro]

Sakura helped him.

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It was because of her his rasengan exsist

You are funny. Are you a girl?

Looks like you are obsessed with Sakura.

 

[kiiro]

I remember Naruto using shadow clone to create rasengan but yep that is a small thing. Also shadow clones were the ones to refill his sage chakra during Pain Arc but tht was just an astray observation and I was kidding hahha. It was Kurama and Minato essentially.

I meant tht it was Minato's plan that reignited the plot going forward into mastering Kyuini chakra. And Naruto played that role. By the time he needed a new power up, he already befriended not only Kurama but also the other bijuus. Before tapping unto Ashura's chakra, Naruto has already fulfilled Minato's will.

Oh yes. I understand. I remember now. But you are wrong. Shadow is the reason of Naruto not mastering Rasengan:

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Rasengan is supposed to be done with one hand. It is meant to use in fast attacks and losing time doing a Clone and then the Rasengan ruins the purpose of why Rasengan was made.

He could do the rasengan with one hand during the 4th ninja war. Mastering Kurama's chakra which made him train with no clones helped him do the rasengan with one hand.

I like your last comment.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

In what did Ashura's chakra help him?

He would've died in the forest of death if not for his massive stamina/physical energy. They mentioned this in the beginning of the series numerous times.
Ashura's chakra and energy let him push the limit before kurama could step into the fray. The yellow cloak too is Ashura's life energy too which should also be given credit to him.

 

[Styles]

Kurama is the reason for Naruto's chakra reserves and stamina. Ashura is the reason for his RSM and Kushina is the reason for his vitality and strong chakra.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Oh yes. I understand. I remember now. But you are wrong. Shadow is the reason of Naruto not mastering Rasengan:

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Rasengan is supposed to be done with one hand. It is meant to use in fast attacks and losing time doing a Clone and then the Rasengan ruins the purpose of why Rasengan was made.

He could do the rasengan with one hand during the 4th ninja war. Mastering Kurama's chakra which made him train with no clones helped him do the rasengan with one hand.

I like your last comment.

Well, people always think I have a flawed humor so there is that. I am sorry about inaccurate references. Hohojojo

 

[SenseiSama]

It was destiny so both

 

[kiiro]

He would've died in the forest of death if not for his massive stamina/physical energy. They mentioned this in the beginning of the series numerous times.
Ashura's chakra and energy let him push the limit before kurama could step into the fray. The yellow cloak too is Ashura's life energy too which should also be given credit to him.

Not really, only if think that a 12 year Naruto with 4 points of chakra has Ashura's chakra then yes. But I dont think that Ashura's chakra is only 4 points.

Naruto gain Ashura's chakra after or during Pain Arc.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Not really, only if think that a 12 year Naruto with 4 points of chakra has Ashura's chakra then yes. But I dont think that Ashura's chakra is only 4 points.

You mean stamina, not chakra. As a 12 year old 4 points is too much and most adult don't have 4/5 (5 being the highest), even kakashi doesn't have 4 points of stamina and he never trained his physical energy nearly as much as kakashi did at the age of 12. But when naruto became a teenager his body could handle a lot more strain giving his body a 5 in stamina. That's all Ashura' doing. He was competeing with kisame for stamina since part one, the guy who has the most chakra and stamina in all of akatsuki. It's 100% Ashura's transmigrant and six path yang lineage.

Naruto gain Ashura's chakra after or during Pain Arc.

Wrong. You are born into a transmigrant, that's why Zetsu watched Ashura and Indra fight at VoTe in part 1 naruto vs sasuke.

 

[kiiro]

You mean stamina, not chakra. As a 12 year old 4 points is too much and most adult don't have 4/5 (5 being the highest), even kakashi doesn't have 4 points of stamina and he never trained his physical energy nearly as much as kakashi did at the age of 12. But when naruto became a teenager his body could handle a lot more strain giving his body a 5 in stamina. That's all Ashura' doing. He was competeing with kisame for stamina since part one, the guy who has the most chakra and stamina in all of akatsuki. It's 100% Ashura's transmigrant and six path yang lineage.



Wrong. You are born into a transmigrant, that's why Zetsu watched Ashura and Indra fight at VoTe in part 1 naruto vs sasuke.

No, you are chosen by Ashura and Indra from your way of living. Naruto had 4 points of chakra or stamina because he is part Uzumaki and has Kurama's chakra naturally mixed with his own.

5 is the limit since almost all the ninjas dont get that stamina. For example Gai has 5 just as Naruto but Pa said that only Naruto could use sage mode because no one in the village has as much as him even when they have 5 points.

Sasuke has 2 points of stamina or chakra. Dont think that Indra was that weak.

 

[salamander uchiha]

He would've died in the forest of death if not for his massive stamina/physical energy. They mentioned this in the beginning of the series numerous times.
Ashura's chakra and energy let him push the limit before kurama could step into the fray. The yellow cloak too is Ashura's life energy too which should also be given credit to him.

Nice fanfic Naruto's massive stamina as you put it was from the kyubi. The added benefit of the kyubi was raising and enhancing Naruto in all aspects even healing which kakashi noted. The 4th designed the seal to leak chakra into Narutos raising his reserves over time. Without it he'd be Iruka level and the yellow cloak is amanifestation of the yang chakra of the kyubi. Now you claim it's Ashura's I suggest you present the scans to back it up.