Sasuke's foes vs Naruto's foes.

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Orochi vs Kakuzu (no edo tensei-feats only)
Itachi VS Pain (same restrictions)
Ay VS Muu
Danzo vs 3rd Raikage (same restrictions)
DSM Kabuto vs Nagato (edo- same restrictions)
 

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Orochimaru mid diff
Itachi neg diff
Ay high diff
Danzo mid diff
Nagato mid diff

Itachi solos :score:
 

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Orochi vs Kakuzu (no edo tensei-feats only)
Itachi VS Pain (same restrictions)
Ay VS Muu
Danzo vs 3rd Raikage (same restrictions)
DSM Kabuto vs Nagato (edo- same restrictions)


The difficulty to which each victor succeeds doesn't interest me.

Orochimaru.
Itachi.
Mu.
Danzo.
Nagato.

Ei > Mu if the 2nd Tsuchikage doesn't start at a favorable distance.
 

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Orochimaru wins mid-high diff.

Itachi wins if Deva is nerfed from the start, loses if not.

Ay beats Mu. Jinton is dodged and Mu can't hurt him with any other method of attack.

3rd Raikage destroys him.

Nagato beats Kabut mid-high diff in a the cave. Mid diff anywhere else.
 

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Orochimaru mid diff
Itachi neg diff
Ay high diff
Danzo mid diff
Nagato mid diff

Itachi solos :score:

The difficulty to which each victor succeeds doesn't interest me.

Orochimaru.
Itachi.
Mu.
Danzo.
Nagato.

Ei > Mu if the 2nd Tsuchikage doesn't start at a favorable distance.


I don't see Danzo beating third Raikage.
Raikage can tank everything Danzo has easily AND outlast Danzo in stamina.

Would be an interesting fight though
 
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Orochimaru wins mid-high diff.

Itachi wins if Deva is nerfed from the start, loses if not.

Ay beats Mu. Jinton is dodged and Mu can't hurt him with any other method of attack.

3rd Raikage destroys him.

Nagato beats Kabut mid-high diff in a the cave. Mid diff anywhere else.

I'm guessing due to manda correct?
Yup of course, nerfed as in canon.
makes sense
does he withstand the suction of baku or pops it with hell stab?
is the higher diff in the cave due to not resorting to cst?
 

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I still find it hilarious that people actually think Oro beats Kakuzu....Manda isn't enough to give him the win lol.
 

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I'm guessing due to manda correct?
Yup of course, nerfed as in canon.
makes sense
does he withstand the suction of baku or pops it with hell stab?
is the higher diff in the cave due to not resorting to cst?

Not just Manda. Manda+his ability to avoid and survive most attacks he's hit with. The only thing that'd potentially be bad is his Katon/Fuuton combo and even that's debatable.

Then yeah, Itachi snags the win.

The suction? He'd get sucked inside, but yeah, he'd rip Baku apart from inside out using Nukite.

Hmm, I was gonna say White Rage but in reality it doesn't really matter. I'll say it's mid-high diff everywhere.
 

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Not just Manda. Manda+his ability to avoid and survive most attacks he's hit with. The only thing that'd potentially be bad is his Katon/Fuuton combo and even that's debatable.

Then yeah, Itachi snags the win.

The suction? He'd get sucked inside, but yeah, he'd rip Baku apart from inside out using Nukite.

Hmm, I was gonna say White Rage but in reality it doesn't really matter. I'll say it's mid-high diff everywhere.


How does Oro beat long range mode Kakuzu? Threads would rip his heart out the instant they reach him lol which is doable. In that mode all his elements are combined so hit Manda with a 3 element combo (fire and wind included) and seeing as he was afraid of fire and oil ( which would have burned him over time, whereas here he just gets ****ed by the force AND heat) it would do some damage, add that Manda can't scratch domu and its a high diff fight either way.
 

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How does Oro beat long range mode Kakuzu? Threads would rip his heart out the instant they reach him lol which is doable. In that mode all his elements are combined so hit Manda with a 3 element combo (fire and wind included) and seeing as he was afraid of fire and oil ( which would have burned him over time, whereas here he just gets ****ed by the force AND heat) it would do some damage, add that Manda can't scratch domu and its a high diff fight either way.

Kusanagi easily cuts any threads that approach him, and Manda took Toad Oil Flame and simply shed his skin. He does the same to Kakuzu's elements unless you want to argue that it's so much stronger than TOFB that it turns him to ash before he can do so, in which case I'd ask you to provide evidence. Idk what you mean by "force and heat". If he's using Fire+Wind, it's basically just a hotter flame + Raiton since that's his only other offensive element.
 

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Orochi vs Kakuzu (no edo tensei-feats only)
Itachi VS Pain (same restrictions)
Ay VS Muu
Danzo vs 3rd Raikage (same restrictions)
DSM Kabuto vs Nagato (edo- same restrictions)

Orochimaru low diff if he is serious. Mid diff if he plays around.
Itachi probably.
Ay probably.
Danzou mid-high diff.
Kabuto high diff.
 

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Kusanagi easily cuts any threads that approach him, and Manda took Toad Oil Flame and simply shed his skin. He does the same to Kakuzu's elements unless you want to argue that it's so much stronger than TOFB that it turns him to ash before he can do so, in which case I'd ask you to provide evidence. Idk what you mean by "force and heat". If he's using Fire+Wind, it's basically just a hotter flame + Raiton since that's his only other offensive element.

Jiraiya's was just flames spread out with oil lol Kakuzu's is stated to have explosive combustion force, adding the wind which also has its on exploding force is only going to increase that, evident by how it BURSTS its fundamently different than Jiraiya's Katon in which he just sprays flames ultimately I think its an advantage for Kakuzu going up against other Katons but either way its bursting right through that molt, also don't forget Raiton can paralyze if he's merely adding electricity.
 

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Orochi vs Kakuzu (no edo tensei-feats only)
Itachi VS Pain (same restrictions)
Ay VS Muu
Danzo vs 3rd Raikage (same restrictions)
DSM Kabuto vs Nagato (edo- same restrictions)

Orochi beats Kakuzu.
Pain beats Itachi.
Mu beats A
Danzo beats the Sandaime Raikage
Nagato beats Kabuto
 

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Jiraiya's was just flames spread out with oil lol Kakuzu's is stated to have explosive combustion force, adding the wind which also has its on exploding force is only going to increase that, evident by how it BURSTS its fundamently different than Jiraiya's Katon in which he just sprays flames ultimately I think its an advantage for Kakuzu going up against other Katons but either way its bursting right through that molt, also don't forget Raiton can paralyze if he's merely adding electricity.

It starts small and explodes into it's full size. That explosion isn't enough to push through and wipe out the opposing flame when it happens so it doesn't have any lasting effect that'd help Kakuzu overpower Jiraiya, so no, it's not busting through anything nor does it melt Manda before Manda can evade like he did in canon.

Adding electricity? To what? Fire? Obviously won't work as fire doesn't conduct electricity so he'd need to be making contact w/ Manda, and I think it's safe to say that'll never happen.
 

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It starts small and explodes into it's full size. That explosion isn't enough to push through and wipe out the opposing flame when it happens so it doesn't have any lasting effect that'd help Kakuzu overpower Jiraiya, so no, it's not busting through anything nor does it melt Manda before Manda can evade like he did in canon.

Adding electricity? To what? Fire? Obviously won't work as fire doesn't conduct electricity so he'd need to be making contact w/ Manda, and I think it's safe to say that'll never happen.

Bruh the databook hypes its explosive/combustive force specifically lol and it blew Kakashi backwards and was reaching Chouji and Ino who were back ways too, Atsugai also has force which is contributed to the jutsu.

Why can't he just spray his raiton with the Katon so they both strike Manda? Doesn't have to ride the flames lol raiton on its own can still paralyze.
 

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Orochi vs Kakuzu (no edo tensei-feats only)
Itachi VS Pain (same restrictions)
Ay VS Muu
Danzo vs 3rd Raikage (same restrictions)
DSM Kabuto vs Nagato (edo- same restrictions)

Orochi wins
Pain wins
Ay / Muu dont know who win this
3rd Raikage wins
Nagato wins
 

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Oro
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Nagato

I'm going to go with 3rd raikage. Since kotoamatsukami is restricted, danzo has nothing that penetrates raikage's armour. And his feats don't convince me that he could be smart enough to figure out how to penetrate 3rd raikage's skin
 

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Orochimaru beats Kakuzu high difficulty only problem he would have is domu.

Itachi wins if he's put in the same scenario as SM Naruto.

Muu can't hit him so he loses and he surely can't outlast him either.

3rd Raikage rapes but Danzo can actually hurt him despite with many may think.

If Kabuto uses Manda II its basically over for Nagato.
 

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Bruh the databook hypes its explosive/combustive force specifically lol and it blew Kakashi backwards and was reaching Chouji and Ino who were back ways too, Atsugai also has force which is contributed to the jutsu.

Why can't he just spray his raiton with the Katon so they both strike Manda? Doesn't have to ride the flames lol raiton on its own can still paralyze.

Lmao, no it didn't. What are you even talking about? They jumped back to avoid the flame. Atsugai doesn't contribute either because Fire eats Wind and becomes hotter flame. What the DB "hypes" is irrelevant when we've seen how it works.

Gian doesn't cause paralyzation. No Raiton does unless streamed through the body.
 
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