Darth AniCetuS
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He's not the only one.
MS Sasuke was a level above SM Naruto
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He's not the only one.
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When they start saying that even hebi sasuke takes down SM naruto thats when you know they are truly spouting fanfics :th:
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Off course he does Naruto with sagemode admits he's no match for 3 Tomeo Sasuke and needs kyubi chakra. So MS Sasuke s out of the question. I know fappers like you don't like to read the manga and only read fanfic bit this is getting silly.
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MS Sasuke > SM Naruto > Hebi Sasuke
There's alot of BS in this thread.
Naruto never stated he's weaker or no match for a weaken 3 Tomeo Sasuke. In fact characters don't refer to each other that way. Us readers do, but not the characters in the manga. IE: when Zetsu stated Naruto was stronger than Sasuke after the Pain battle he said it just like that. He didn't say SM Naruto or MS Sasuke. Naruto didn't know Sasuke's condition when he faced him after the kage battle. Us reader did, but Naruto didn't.
Naruto knew or at least believed he was facing a strong ninja that:
- defeated Orochimaru
- defeated Itachi
- defeated/captured Killer Bee
- fought and survive a battle against the kages and their subordinates
- defeated/killed Danzo
Remember, Naruto didn't know the conditions of those battle or that fact Sasuke received help. Some that information was incorrect. Sasuke actually failed to capture or defeat Killer Bee. Regardless that's the information he had on Sasuke and that's what his statement was based off of.
Naruto did say he needed the 9 tails to fight Sasuke, but he also stated he and Sasuke would both die if they fought. The manga clearly explains to us what Naruto meant by his statement and that was they were equal and would both die if they fought each other. Naruto's goal was to defeat Sasuke without killing him so for him to achieve that goal he needed to be stronger that Sasuke not equal to Sasuke. Remember it's harder to defeat a person without killing them by killing them.
SM Naruto and MS Sasuke are equal. Sasuke was stronger after his battle with the kages, but SM Naruto caught up to him and his display during the war proved it. 1st vs Madara battle proves SM=MS/EMS. I included EMS because EMS is just a MS that doesn't go blind so that allows to user to fully master it's power. SM is able to match that power with its different levels the user must master. Pa frog told Naruto before he fought Pain he had only mastered SM to a certain level. That level was the basic level. Naruto had perfected the transformation, but could only maintain SM for about 5 minutes so he was nowhere close to fully mastering it.
Naruto never stated he's weaker or no match for a weaken 3 Tomeo Sasuke. In fact characters don't refer to each other that way. Us readers do, but not the characters in the manga. IE: when Zetsu stated Naruto was stronger than Sasuke after the Pain battle he said it just like that. He didn't say SM Naruto or MS Sasuke. Naruto didn't know Sasuke's condition when he faced him after the kage battle. Us reader did, but Naruto didn't.
Naruto knew or at least believed he was facing a strong ninja that:
- defeated Orochimaru
- defeated Itachi
- defeated/captured Killer Bee
- fought and survive a battle against the kages and their subordinates
- defeated/killed Danzo
Remember, Naruto didn't know the conditions of those battle or that fact Sasuke received help. Some that information was incorrect. Sasuke actually failed to capture or defeat Killer Bee. Regardless that's the information he had on Sasuke and that's what his statement was based off of.
Naruto did say he needed the 9 tails to fight Sasuke, but he also stated he and Sasuke would both die if they fought. The manga clearly explains to us what Naruto meant by his statement and that was they were equal and would both die if they fought each other. Naruto's goal was to defeat Sasuke without killing him so for him to achieve that goal he needed to be stronger that Sasuke not equal to Sasuke. Remember it's harder to defeat a person without killing them by killing them.
SM Naruto and MS Sasuke are equal. Sasuke was stronger after his battle with the kages, but SM Naruto caught up to him and his display during the war proved it. 1st vs Madara battle proves SM=MS/EMS. I included EMS because EMS is just a MS that doesn't go blind so that allows to user to fully master it's power. SM is able to match that power with its different levels the user must master. Pa frog told Naruto before he fought Pain he had only mastered SM to a certain level. That level was the basic level. Naruto had perfected the transformation, but could only maintain SM for about 5 minutes so he was nowhere close to fully mastering it.
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This post wouldn't have been so ironic had you not included the bold. Them vs. Madara proves nothing besides the fact that you didn't properly understand what the Manga has shown you. EMS isn't an MS that doesn't go blind. EMS is an advanced MS that increases the power and proficiency of your techniques. Susanoo gets a full body, PS can be unlocked, Sasuke gets better control of Enton. That's obviously more than MS Sasuke w/o blindness.
SM Naruto and EMS Sasuke barely fought Madara to prove anything, and when they did so they used physical attacks because he can absorb Ninjutsu. If you are trying to use their performance as the basis of some ridiculous comparison you should be arguing that SM Naruto w/ physical attacks is inferior to EMS Sasuke w/ physical attacks and a blade as the extent of Naruto's exchange w/ Madara was him getting put on his ass meanwhile Sasuke actually managed to push him back somewhat.
MS Sasuke and SM Naruto are not equal. No portrayal in this Manga puts them on that level. No feats put SM Naruto on that level either. And no way in hell is SM Naruto on EMS Sasuke's tier let alone on par with him.
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lol nothing in SM Naruto's arsenal can take down MS Sasuke's susanoo . SM Naruto gets beaten badly .
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#350.
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No. Sasuke isn't touching SM Naruto and if things turn into who can last the longest, it's a definite loss for Sasuke.
Also Naruto can summon Ma and Pa for continuous NE and use Frog Song to take down Sasuke while he's in his Susanoo. If he gets caught in that genjutsu, it's over.
SM Naruto isn't losing.
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Hebi is on par or stronger than Sm Naruto the facts are there to prove it.
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Any version of Naruto under vote2 gets paddle board spanked by Le Sauce.
That's how the manga worked even down to the reincarnation bs... Naruto was only ever meant to draw during final clash just like Ashura. Or he would've won a fight before against Sasuke and hasnt..
That's how the manga worked even down to the reincarnation bs... Naruto was only ever meant to draw during final clash just like Ashura. Or he would've won a fight before against Sasuke and hasnt..
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No:kk:
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Don't argue with him. He's a hopeless case.
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naruto can easily
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is also heavier than susanooso if naruto caught susanoo than sauke is done for
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MS isn't above SM Naruto
He doesn't beat him in any category
Strength
Speed
Taijustu combined with frog Kata counters pre cog in case you somehow forgot that
And it I didn't take "bijuu" power to best sasuke it was only mentioned he had bijou level chakra
He beat him with his speed enhanced by ration which is a skill he acquired through skill.
He doesn't beat him in any category
Strength
Speed
Taijustu combined with frog Kata counters pre cog in case you somehow forgot that
And it I didn't take "bijuu" power to best sasuke it was only mentioned he had bijou level chakra
He beat him with his speed enhanced by ration which is a skill he acquired through skill.