Haruno isn't a Clan?

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DB says Sakura Uchiha
I tranalated it. lol
うちはサクラ reads Sakura Uchiha

Thank you. Let's see Lyke denying and excusing this. Deal with it. Sakura has become a member of the Uchiha Clan.

My Gosh it's just a stupid name why Discuss this in the first place.
 

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I'm really disappointed in you. I wasnt active during your time, but I heard lots of good stuff about you, leading to me assuming you would be logical and backed up by facts. Looks like this isnt the case, as you ignore posts you dont want to comment or simply cant.
That not fair, every since 2013 I've been nothing but rainbows and sunshine, a beackon for hate and I said nothing, and replied to everyone respectfully and truthfully and recieve nothing but hate and name calling, but now that I choose not to respond to some redundany post, I the villian? When I do post scan, they are ignored, with hate and people only choose to listen to the hate, even when im right. So Sue ME
Family crests in Japan are called Mon. They were used to identify not only individuals but also families, members of clan, the clan itself or organizations. In the modern days, we can see them everywhere as Brands or as we commonly know them, logos.

We have no idea wether, Kishi, intended to use the Mon as a family crest or a Clan crest in the case of the Harunos. Going by a consistency process, we might suspect that the Haruno were, in fact, a clan because the usage of the Mon in Naruto was mainly for for clans or it is just a coincidence and he didn't care at all.

Oh wow, this is very interesting. From the road to ninja movie, it was seen that Sakura dad seemed to be wealthy and a traveling man as he was always seen shopping, so maybe they are something, kishi did say that he wanted to introduce her parents
 

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Haruno isn't clan, it is a family. But it doesn't really matter. What matters is that Sakura is a Uchiha now whether people like it or not. Kishi made it like that so y'all will have to deal with it or live in denial.

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Tbh denying this at this point is just pathetic, given all the "Sakura Uchiha" canon material we already have by now.
 
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Thank you. Let's see Lyke denying and excusing this. Deal with it. Sakura has become a member of the Uchiha Clan.

My Gosh it's just a stupid name why Discuss this in the first place.

Look what I said:
Kishimoto heavily contradicting himself with the feudal japan references then.
^followed this for whole Part 1 and 2
 

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If that is true its contradicting Rastas stament that only women take the name. And, if Sai took Inos name, Minato would have done the same, becoming an Uzumaki

Minato became Hokage, I think he brought that Honor to the Namikaze family. Or the whole thing is just arbitrary, blame Kishi
 

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That not fair, every since 2013 I've been nothing but rainbows and sunshine, a beackon for hate and I said nothing, and replied to everyone respectfully and truthfully and recieve nothing but hate and name calling, but now that I choose not to respond to some redundany post, I the villian? When I do post scan, they are ignored, with hate and people only choose to listen to the hate, even when im right. So Sue ME


Oh wow, this is very interesting. From the road to ninja movie, it was seen that Sakura dad seemed to be wealthy and a traveling man as he was always seen shopping, so maybe they are something, kishi did say that he wanted to introduce her parents

Isn't everyone opposite in rtn tho... meaning their poor and stay at home?
 

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Minato became Hokage, I think he brought that Honor to the Namikaze family. Or the whole thing is just arbitrary, blame Kishi

But they married before he became Hokage.

Yep, Kishi doesnt really know what to do with all the references.
 

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But they married before he became Hokage.

Yep, Kishi doesnt really know what to do with all the references.

O realized that too. Minato might have opted to retain his surname after all.
 

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Oh and just for the record, Hinata is Uzumaki Hinata now, not Hyuga Hinata anymore.

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Thought that - even for the most stupid members - such a thing would be clear at this point. :lol Seems I was wrong.
 

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Oh and just for the record, Hinata is Uzumaki Hinata now, not Hyuga Hinata anymore.

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Thought that - even for the most stupid members - such a thing would be clear at this point. :lol Seems I was wrong.

I love that chunin is highlighted
 

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this was before the world switched
Was it? I never saw rtn
Oh and just for the record, Hinata is Uzumaki Hinata now, not Hyuga Hinata anymore.

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Thought that - even for the most stupid members - such a thing would be clear at this point. :lol Seems I was wrong.

I'm glad I said I wasn't sure, that shoots my theory down though, I guess it's purely a choice thing as far as taking spouses names in the nv
 

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O realized that too. Minato might have opted to retain his surname after all.

Actually, the Uzumaki where rare and being killed off, Kushina was something of a refugee. That couldve affected his not taking her name
 

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If that is true its contradicting Rastas stament that only women take the name. And, if Sai took Inos name, Minato would have done the same, becoming an Uzumaki

Please tell me where in my statement did I say in Naruto's adaptation of marriage did women and women only secure thier spouses name? Your over thinking and going on a tangent for no reason other then wanting to sound right.

First off, this is a fictional series that has some adaptations of non-fictional traditions that aren't always appropriated how they would be in the real world. I simply stated how marriage worked in the real world way before the industrial revolution in fudal Japan, not how marriage works in Naruto. Kishi never established the lexicon version of marriage in his series so it's not worth fighting about. Sakura's last name is Uchiha becuase Kishi made it so and Sakura Uchiha is canon.
 

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O realized that too. Minato might have opted to retain his surname after all.

Yep, Kishis concept of referencing is messed up. Everyone does as he pleases.
But, a clan being only blood line is still legit, else, Uchiha and Hyuga wouldnt have been doing incest all this time, so Sakura is and will never be a real Uchiha, and Hinata will never be an Uzumaki.
 

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Yep, Kishis concept of referencing is messed up. Everyone does as he pleases.
But, a clan being only blood line is still legit, else, Uchiha and Hyuga wouldnt have been doing incest all this time, so Sakura is and will never be a real Uchiha, and Hinata will never be an Uzumaki.

She'll never be Uchiha by blood, right, but Sakura is way stronger than the average Uchiha so her addition to the clan was a good thing.
 

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Yep, Kishis concept of referencing is messed up. Everyone does as he pleases.
But, a clan being only blood line is still legit, else, Uchiha and Hyuga wouldnt have been doing incest all this time, so Sakura is and will never be a real Uchiha, and Hinata will never be an Uzumaki.

Yep how else would Boruto and Hima be a part of the Hyuuga clan if Hinata dropped the Hyuuga name...
 

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Please tell me where in my statement did I say in Naruto's adaptation of marriage did women and women only secure thier spouses name? Your over thinking and going on a tangent for no reason other then wanting to sound right.

First off, this is a fictional series that has some adaptations of non-fictional traditions that aren't always appropriated how they would be in the real world. I simply stated how marriage worked in the real world way before the industrial revolution in fudal Japan, not how marriage works in Naruto. Kishi never established the lexicon version of marriage in his series so it's not worth fighting about. Sakura's last name is Uchiha becuase Kishi made it so and Sakura Uchiha is canon.

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Indeed lol

Sidenote: For the record, when your a woman who comes from a unrecognized home/clan and you marry into a prominent family you drop your name (the lesser) and pick up your husbands family name. When you already come from a prominent and marry into a family of equal status you keep your family name for historical purposes and if your wedding into a lesser family (didn't happen offten in feudal Japan) they also keep their family names instead of picking up the lesser.

Also, you said when both clans are prominent, you keep the clannames, yet, Vulpini, taken from the databook states Hinata is Uzumaki.

Your post seems suspiciously made up :sigar:
 
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