CES or Gentle Fist?

[Lyke]

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Sakura sarada and tsunade have all one shotted
They are the only CES that matters , as they are the most powerful users

Thats like saying Sasuke is the strongest Sharingan user so the rest doesnt matter when comparing.

Oh, Kakashi isnt resistant to Genjutsu? He got the Sharingan, Sasuke is immune so is Kakashi then.

Oh, Hinata cant use rotation? Neji can so Hinata can aswell

Kaguya gentle fisted Susanoo and broke it?
Well, Ao can do it too since he has the Byakugan then

Because "the strongest are the only ones that matter", right, femme?

 

[FemmeFatale]

Thats like saying Sasuke is the strongest Sharingan user so the rest doesnt matter when comparing.

Oh, Kakashi isnt resistant to Genjutsu? He got the Sharingan, Sasuke is immune so is Kakashi then.

Oh, Hinata cant use rotation? Neji can so Hinata can aswell

Kaguya gentle fisted Susanoo and broke it?
Well, Ao can do it too since he has the Byakugan then

Because "the strongest are the only ones that matter", right, femme?

Not it's not, CES isn't an active ability in anyone else's fighting style. They are the only ones to use it to its fullest extent

You are deflecting from the point

 

[Reviewing Logic]

The Gentle fist is a universal and flexible taijutsu

not only is it meant to seal down the user it can also damage innards as well as be tweaked and customized via one's choosing

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you have to remember that the Hyuga have a KKG that can expel chakra from any chakra point as well as manipulate it, boost it, damage chakra, mend chakra, and split ninjitsu

in the itachi book we saw a diluted Hyuga with only one eye split a fireball ninjitsu with GF


CES is a chakra based fist

regular ninja can only expel chakra from their hands and feet


a CES user who is about to hit a GF user the user can stop them in their tracks via expelling chakra

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they can also expel the same innards destroying chakra from any point of their body


punching the ground or using CES is possible for anyone with good chakra control, a hyuga would be easily able to learn it but reframe from doing so since they have the superior taijutsu

 

[Lyke]

Not it's not, CES isn't an active ability in anyone else's fighting style. They are the only ones to use it to its fullest extent

You are deflecting from the point

Kaguya also uses byakugan to its fullest extent. Same as Sharingan User being immune to genjutsu. Stop being in denial

 

[Umari Senju]

in Hand to Hand combat, the gentle fist is definitely a better choice since it damages the opponents with the slightest touch.

but the CES is good if you wanted to punch the ground and destroy things from a safe distance.

Depends on if the one using CES has any kind of speed. We've seen CES crack a legged Susanoo. If someone is hit directly with CES, that body part is gone.

As Conrow stated. It depends on the user. One uses fitness and the other brute force. Same result, different method.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Kaguya also uses byakugan to its fullest extent. Same as Sharingan User being immune to genjutsu. Stop being in denial

I've never seen one Sharringa user immune to genjtus. Sakura is the only person in the manga who have shown immuninty, a uchiha is always caught under the genjutsu before defelcting it.

Kaguya used the byakugan, but not gentle fist. She used other attacks in conjunction with the byakugan.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

Immunity =\= resistance

 

[Misо]

One gentle fist to the heart >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CES

 

[Misо]

I've never seen one Sharringa user immune to genjtus. Sakura is the only person in the manga who have shown immuninty, a uchiha is always caught under the genjutsu before defelcting it.

Kaguya used the byakugan, but not gentle fist. She used other attacks in conjunction with the byakugan.

When. The. ****?

 

[Misо]

CES is clealy more powerful and can take out more opponents (crowd control) while gentle fist is a fighting technique and very presise way of disarming your opponent.

Sakura knocked the soul out of Shins body and Tsunade shattered pure chakra.

Nice fanfic. Has CES ever knocked someone out for a whole day?

Sakutards say Himawari doesnt count because Naruto was caught off guard, but when Kaguya and Shin are caught off guard, you sell your soul to Sakura.

 

[Dylan Uchiha]

CES..

 

[~Sasuke~]

I like Gentle Fist, but CES.

 

[Calpal]

if you gotta run around and break the ****ing earth just land a broadside-barn-door strike then you shouldnt call yourself a ninja, or even a medic with that lack of finesse.

Gentle fist is a style superior to sakuras run, jump, and punch boxing style, which to be honest was only ever showcased against sasori and never again. whereas a shinobi of sakuras level with gentle fist would easily shit on sasori as he has nothing to defeat rotation. and sure, he has no living body, but one tenketsu strike to the heart and its gg.

yes CES is far more 'powerful' in the sense that it uses much more brute strength, but a technique that requires so much chakra control could be used just as efficiently as GF, if not more efficiently.

i think in an all out bloodlusted battle hinata isnt stupid enough to let sakura blow her head off. rotation or not, gentle fist has enough fluidity and adaptability to handle CES because CES isnt even a style, its a supplement.

**** while were at it, teach hinata CES, shouldnt be hard for her to learn, then what?
on the other hand sakura can never be proficient with GF

 

[FemmeFatale]

if you gotta run around and break the ****ing earth just land a broadside-barn-door strike then you shouldnt call yourself a ninja, or even a medic with that lack of finesse.

Gentle fist is a style superior to sakuras run, jump, and punch boxing style, which to be honest was only ever showcased against sasori and never again. whereas a shinobi of sakuras level with gentle fist would easily shit on sasori as he has nothing to defeat rotation. and sure, he has no living body, but one tenketsu strike to the heart and its gg.

yes CES is far more 'powerful' in the sense that it uses much more brute strength, but a technique that requires so much chakra control could be used just as efficiently as GF, if not more efficiently.

i think in an all out bloodlusted battle hinata isnt stupid enough to let sakura blow her head off. rotation or not, gentle fist has enough fluidity and adaptability to handle CES because CES isnt even a style, its a supplement.

**** while were at it, teach hinata CES, shouldnt be hard for her to learn, then what?
on the other hand sakura can never be proficient with GF

But you are wrong , tsunade only fought Madara recklessly because she didn't care, Sakura attacks are very calculated and she is always observing and 2 steps ahead of her opponent .

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Again a slow CES fist won't be able to even touch them

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Naruto in the Chunin exams only got to parry it via clashing early with Neji (Neji couldn't spin fast enough)/(he started late)

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The rotation's defense is proportional to the users spinning speed

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and likely Neji's Rotation in the Chunin exams wasn't as strong compared to his rotation during the fight with the tentails

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Then we have the fact that the GF itself is more refined then CES and is faster, could counter combat, etc....

Let alone the Byakugan's added insight.

Conclude the fact that the whole point of the GF is to seal/destroy/manipluate one's chakra network and chakra while the whole point of CES is to expel chakra from a certain point to garner/increase strength. (Even though the Hyuga KKG allows the user to expel chakra from any point from their body).

Tell me how would you be able to even use CES if your network is destroyed and your internal stored source is sealed? Naruto had a chance against Neji since he had a external source while Sakura, etc... stores chakre in one of their chakra points like a chakra bank, hence it is internal and not from a outside source.

Even so if you want to use fanficiton and assume it is internal we also learnt that you can steal close off the external source as well.

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[Misо]

But you are wrong , tsunade only fought Madara recklessly because she didn't care, Sakura attacks are very calculated and she is always observing and 2 steps ahead of her opponent .

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