Who has better variants to their signature technique? Naruto or Sasuke?

[To Whatever]

you can dress a cat in a thousand different costumes, but the costumes won't make the cat any more than it is. Your argument is valid, but it isn't 100% bulletproof either. A Rasengan/RS with different releases is still a Rasengan/RS, otherwise it wouldn't be a parent jutsu.

No shit. It's versatile because you can dress that shit up for a lot of situations.

Stop being passive aggressive about agreeing with me.

 

[WalksInShadows]

No shit. It's versatile because you can dress that shit up for a lot of situations.

Stop being passive aggressive about agreeing with me.

acknowledging the validity in your argument =/= i'm agreeing with you. My purpose is pointing out the double standard that exists in your argument. You're thinking way too highly of yourself here bro.

 

[TemplarKnight]

Sasukes variants are far more diverse and useful, narutos are basically different soda flavors

 

[salamander uchiha]

Sasukes variants are far more diverse and useful, narutos are basically different soda flavors

Contingent on tailed beast power if for some reason said power ceases noodles loses his flavours.

 

[To Whatever]

acknowledging the validity in your argument =/= i'm agreeing with you. My purpose is pointing out the double standard that exists in your argument. You're thinking way too highly of yourself here bro.

What double standard?

Chidori is lightning. It can't seal, it can't be given to others. It only incorporated enton into it.

It's lightning, it's not a ball of chakra. It's malleable chakra capable of defense and short to mid long range attacks.

It's limitations are it's lack of elemental variety aside from enton.

The lack of fuinjutsu, the inability to give it to others, among other things I've said before.

You're pitting a lightning jutsu against a jutsu that changes properties and functions based on the users discretion due to the fact that it's base is a orb of chakra and it's incomplete.

RS is the completed Rasengan.

It's why Rasengan can be turned into so much shit. Because it's a incomplete jutsu with its base being chakra, no elements, no releases. Just.Chakra.

Chakra can turn into fire,lightning, earth etc...

Rasengan is a placeholder for whatever suits Naruto.

It's one of the main reason he uses it other than shadow clones and his heightened forms.

He essentially has two main jutsu that are so versatile that he can match other fighters so long as he has the chakra to do so.

 

[WalksInShadows]

What double standard?

you're trying to sell Rasengan/RS + different releases as if it makes the resulting technique any less a Rasengan/RS and then be like "Chidori is still just lightning, regardless what Sasuke shapes it into". My point wasn't about debating how one is more versatile than the other.

 

[Styles]

It isn't one sided thinking.

Rasengan can utilize more elements:

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Can be used to seal:

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Can incorporate Bijuu Dama and TSB:

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Allows others to utilize it:

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In what category other than shape manipulation and defense does Chidori have over FRS? FRS and Chidori cant even be compared. Only Rasengan and Chidori. With Rasenshuriken being the finished jutsu.

Rasengan is a close range. Rasenshuriken is a close-mid-long range jutsu that can be thrown, caught, expanded and detonated at will and has a power scaling higher than anything we've seen in the series.

I'm not saying it doesn't engulf. He said the frs would fly back at Naruto. How does a enton arrow cause frs to fly backwards at him. If the FRS is stopped, it explodes or dissipates. For the FRS to turn around would mean it would stop spinning to reverse itself back at Naruto. That's all i'm asking.




Are we talking about enton arrow or chidori? It doesn't matter if it engulfs. I'm not saying it wont.

I'm asking you again to explain how a FRS gets turned around completely.

Didn't get a quote from you fam my bad for the late reply.

We're talking about Enton from the question the other dude asked.

We've already seen Enton arrow engulf FRS and turn into a bigger arrow. If it collide the speed of the arrow which is faster than FRS added that fire would engulf wind and make it stronger the arrow would shoot back towards Naruto or whoever is using the technique.

 

[SamAdams]

Sasukes varients are more creative in there shape manipulation while Naruto uses more variety in element usage.

Both Rasengan and Chidori are op af and will get the job done. Personally I prefer anything Chidori.

 

[To Whatever]

Didn't get a quote from you fam my bad for the late reply.

We're talking about Enton from the question the other dude asked.

We've already seen Enton arrow engulf FRS and turn into a bigger arrow. If it collide the speed of the arrow which is faster than FRS added that fire would engulf wind and make it stronger the arrow would shoot back towards Naruto or whoever is using the technique.

Rasenshuriken requires it to be constantly spinning. For it to shoot backwards it would have to stop. What you're saying isn't possible. The reason it worked against the juubi was because the arrow is going with it, not against it.

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So it wouldn't turn backwards and fly back at Naruto. It would just engulf it.


I don't understand why that's so hard for you to get. Where in the series has Rasenshuriken ever changed rotations to fly backwards?


Imagine RS is a ceiling fan that's spinning. If you were to force it in another direction it would have to slow down and stop spinning to change rotation and go backwards.

Imagine that this ceiling fan explodes or dissipates when it slows down or it's rotation stops.


I can't break it down to you any simpler than that.

you're trying to sell Rasengan/RS + different releases as if it makes the resulting technique any less a Rasengan/RS and then be like "Chidori is still just lightning, regardless what Sasuke shapes it into". My point wasn't about debating how one is more versatile than the other.

RS/Rasengan is more than a RS/Rasengan when releases are involved because it's properties changes. It goes from being a ball of chakra to something that can burn you, freeze you, seal you etc.

Chidori is lightning, it goes from being lightning to lightning with enton or something that can cut, pierce, and stun you. Chidori cannot seal, freeze, etc.


Also:
I believe you mean, "Any more" @ bold than a RS/Rasengan in which case, you're still wrong.




Think about it:

Is Chidori a elemental jutsu? Yes

Is Rasengan elemental jutsu? No

Does chidori have limitations in releases due to it being lightning? Yes

Does Rasengan have limitations in releases? No.

No matter what is shape manipulation is added, it is only lightning unless enton is involved.

Rasengan lacks shape manipulation but it has releases changing it's properties. It isn't a elemental jutsu at its base so it's capable of being much more than chidori.



In any case you seem to already understand that RS/Rasengan is the more versatile technique, which was the main point of this thread. I'm done trying to dumb this down to you.

 

[Warlocks]

rasengan + kurama's chakra = Amaterasu+Chidori+kurama's chakra/six path chakra

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added six path chakra cuz he use rinnagan to absorb kurama chakra