[VS] Hidan VS Kisam[cqc battle]

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Restriction: Elemental and summoning ninjutsu for kisame
Starting distance: 5 m
Location:Asuma and his team vs zombie duo

Kisame has samehada while hidan has his scythe
 

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Kisame wins. Hidan's scythe is only good for stabbing and cutting, all things Kisame can easily heal from w/ Samehada. Meanwhile Hidan can't heal from Kisame's own attacks nor is Hidan superior enough to actually sever one of Kisame's limbs in close quarters.
 

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Kisame wins. Hidan's scythe is only good for stabbing and cutting, all things Kisame can easily heal from w/ Samehada. Meanwhile Hidan can't heal from Kisame's own attacks nor is Hidan superior enough to actually sever one of Kisame's limbs in close quarters.

doesn't samehada needs to eat chakra first heal someone
 

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Inevitably overwhelm hidan
 
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This is a fight of power/strength vs speed/agility.

I think this fight could go either way. I don't see Kisame hitting Hidan easily while I also dont see Hidan taking Kisame out easily.

Hidan is hard to hit

Kisame is EXTREMELY Durable.

I favor Hidan's fighting prowess more though.
 

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I favour Hidan myself. I can't see Kisame winning this.
 

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Kisame just eats Hidan. Hidan wont be able to draw the ritual while be eaten alive.
 

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Let's see:

Hidan took on/pressured Asuma and an exhausted 3T Kakashi armed with a kunai in CQC.
Kisame pressured base Gai in CQC at only 30% of his physical capabilities, and comfortably took on base and V1 Bee in CQC as well.

CQC feats favor Kisame.

Both are extremely pain resilient, have great endurance and stamina, and good durability. However, Kisame also has super-human strength (noted at 30%), healing capabilities, and versatile weapon that can extend itself just like Hidan's scythe, unpredictably erect spikes, and also drain chakra with physical contact (which Hidan definitely uses, evident by him running along a tree against Shikamaru).

Kisame has every advantage here.
 
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Let's see:

Hidan took on/pressured Asuma and an exhausted 3T Kakashi armed with a kunai in CQC.
Kisame pressured base Gai in CQC at only 30% of his physical capabilities, and comfortably took on base and V1 Bee in CQC as well.

CQC feats favor Kisame.

Both are extremely pain resilient, have great endurance and stamina, and good durability. However, Kisame also has super-human strength (noted at 30%), healing capabilities, and versatile weapon that can extend itself just like Hidan's scythe, unpredictably erect spikes, and also drain chakra with physical contact (which Hidan definitely uses, evident by him running along a tree against Shikamaru).

Kisame has every advantage here.
can you explain that eh
 

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Kisame wins. Hidan's scythe is only good for stabbing and cutting, all things Kisame can easily heal from w/ Samehada. Meanwhile Hidan can't heal from Kisame's own attacks nor is Hidan superior enough to actually sever one of Kisame's limbs in close quarters.

What do you think about Kisame vs Hidan in overall CQC skills, no ninjutsu and stuff. Generic skills, not a matchup between them
 

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What do you think about Kisame vs Hidan in overall CQC skills, no ninjutsu and stuff. Generic skills, not a matchup between them

Hidan is probably better overall. Kisame was formidable against B because he was absorbing his cloak and B went for the brute force route instead of using his Seven Swords Dance, and he's not countering when even Itachi was forced to retreat, and he has the range advantage when his scythe isn't messed up. V1 B was dodged by Sasuke and Sasuke landed Genjutsu on him yet Seven Swords Dance wrecked him.

Meanwhile Hidan w/ his working scythe was easily overwhelming Asuma and with a broken scythe he was clashing with a tired 3-T Kakashi, and Asuma was doing pretty well against Kisame and was noted in the databook to even be capable of pressuring him. Kakashi was tired, but Hidan's scythe being broken is a greater disadvantage as that completely eliminates a part of his fighting style.
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Hidan would outlast Kisame, assuming fusion & curse are restricted.

since they're using weapons, kisames brute strength won't matter as much.
and then, there won't be any ''healing breaks'' outside of the plot so yeah...
 
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can you explain that eh

I mean, not that it's a huge factor here but sure.

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I only brought it up since some Hidan supporters think Hidan doesn't use any chakra, thus he is immune to things such as Samehada or Shino's parasite insects, for example.
 

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Kisame took on Bee in CQC? Huh? What kind of fanon BS is this?
 

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I mean, not that it's a huge factor here but sure.

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I only brought it up since some Hidan supporters think Hidan doesn't use any chakra, thus he is immune to things such as Samehada or Shino's parasite insects, for example.

His main offense is destroying the center of his chakra system, hope you're not implying he can be incapacitated through chakra absorption.


I mean, if ritual is allowed Hidan should win this lol all he has to do is draw the sigil at any point and Kisame can't do anything "knocking" Hidan out of the circle would knock Kisame back as well and a bloodlusted Hidan takes less than a second to end his opponent.

@KG how was Kakashi tired when he FIRST clashed with Hidan exactly??
 

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His main offense is destroying the center of his chakra system, hope you're not implying he can be incapacitated through chakra absorption.


I mean, if ritual is allowed Hidan should win this lol all he has to do is draw the sigil at any point and Kisame can't do anything "knocking" Hidan out of the circle would knock Kisame back as well and a bloodlusted Hidan takes less than a second to end his opponent.

@KG how was Kakashi tired when he FIRST clashed with Hidan exactly??

Idk if we are talking about the same thing, but what I remember is that they had a short skirmish and Kakashi jumped back, Shikamaru asked him if he's ok (Hint #1) and then Kakashi replied yeah, but that he was pushing it in terms of chakra (Hint #2). So he was feeling a little something.

The only other time I remember was before Atsugai where Kakashi was evading, not fighting.
 

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Idk if we are talking about the same thing, but what I remember is that they had a short skirmish and Kakashi jumped back, Shikamaru asked him if he's ok (Hint #1) and then Kakashi replied yeah, but that he was pushing it in terms of chakra (Hint #2). So he was feeling a little something.

The only other time I remember was before Atsugai where Kakashi was evading, not fighting.

He couldn't entirely evade though, he was literally stuck engaging Hidan until Atsugai was blasted lol so he was being pressured. Tired Kakashi also was evading/keeping up with a flying Deidara beforehand so I don't think his speed/abilities drop so dramatically from a bit of chakra exhaustion as people like to say (afterwards he still was able to blitz Deva in time that he needed to use Asura).

I'd say Kisame can defend against Hidan pretty well, but blood shed is inevitable.
 
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