Base Itachi vs Tsunade & Sakura

[MomoSaka]

Lol....Itachi loses....anyone who disagree is just fanboying aroundkun:.....and it's funny how Dr proof is avoiding Femme....It's like...she already soloed him

 

[BLAZE]

Facts are facts .most of his speed and reaction feats are misinterpreted by fans to look more impressive .

oh only one who is allowed to have speed feats is lawd kakashi.itachi sucks

guess what he couldn't follow his handsigns

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Guess what sasuke who was pressuring Diedara[who has 4.5 in speed same as sasuke and kakashi] with his speed couldn't pressure him
guess who fended of Killer bee's seven sword dance when sasuke couldn't,we can argue sasuke wasn't fully healed but then again that proves itachi is at least hebi sasuke's lvl in speed who has himself shown to be superior than kakashi.DB says itachi is faster

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got behind bee within timeframe of nagato's summon [

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was standing next to bee[

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blinded chamelion and king of hell [

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[Hakke]

Then you should know Itachi lacks durabilty here along with stamina thus neither can he let the fight go on for long time nor can he risk getting badly injured
without sharingan loses precog.He cannot perfectly guess what sakura or tsunade will do next.
He also lacks intel on sakura's chakra based strength and nor does he have sharingan here to see chakra being concentrated in her fists;legs or whatever.If he tries to block it he will get handicapped if he somehow survives

the stamina isn't a big factor here because I doubt that the fight would last very long.
his lack of precog is irrelevant. not everyone has a precog yet there are people who are very powerful in close combat. don't forget that he has superior skills, speed, and reflex
his lack of durability only means that he won't be able to block CES attacks but he can still evade them.
him not being able to see where the concentrated Chakra is irrelevant because he can just evade all of their direct strikes

but you have a point on the Intel though. but I doubt that he would give Sakura a chance to punch him.

anyway with Intel, Itachi solos.

Edit: can't he can tell that she is a CES user by looking at the mark on her forehead?

Why will it.Direct impact from yasaka magatama failed to do so [

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it seems that the Byakuguo does give the user some sort of durability I guess. but let us not forget that the Magatama attack that almost pierced through Gaara's sand and Ohnoki's Golem had far more momentum and perceive force than the attack that Tsunade tanked. you are not going to argue that Tsunade is more durable than Gaara's sand, are you?

also if Itachi charged at a high speed with a Kunai and targeted the neck of the victim he might be able to pull it off. his chances increases if he tried it with something sharper like a sword

the best feat of kunai is slicing oro's arm when he was in genjutsu [

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if something like yasaka beads far larger and with superior feat cannot a kunai won't either

and what that changes.Hidan was pierced by normal weapons repeteadly

Irrelevant.

 

[BLAZE]

the stamina isn't a big factor here because I doubt that the fight would last very long.
his lack of precog is irrelevant. not everyone has a precog yet there are people who are very powerful in close combat. don't forget that he has superior skills, speed, and reflex

Yeah and what he does with kunai stabs her and then die lmao or stabs her twice then dies maybe thrice maybe ten times

he does not even know they have regeneration

his lack of durability only means that he won't be able to block CES attacks but he can still evade them.
him not being able to see where the concentrated Chakra is irrelevant because he can just evade all of their direct strikes[

but you have a point on the Intel though. but I doubt that he would give Sakura a chance to punch him.

yeah

anyway with Intel, Itachi solos.

now with intel still has nothing to put her down.

it seems that the Byakuguo does give the user some sort of durability I guess. but let us not forget that Magatama attack that almost pierced through Gaara's sand and Ohnoki's Golem had far more momentum and perceive force than the attack that Tsunade tanked. you are not going to argue that Tsunade is more durable than Gaara's sand, are you?

kunai will have even lesser momentum than it lol :lol

also if Itachi charged at a high speed with a Kunai and targeted the neck of the victim he might be able to pull it off. his chances increases if he tried it with something sharper like a sword

What feats none.
even orochimaru with his kusanagi missed to land lethal blow to tsunade who was out of action for 20 years [

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Irrelevant.

Lmao its not.its canonical that asuma used wind enhaced blade to slice off his head

 

[KidGamer65]

oh only one who is allowed to have speed feats is lawd kakashi.itachi sucks

guess what he couldn't follow his handsigns

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Guess what sasuke who was pressuring Diedara[who has 4.5 in speed same as sasuke and kakashi] with his speed couldn't pressure him
guess who fended of Killer bee's seven sword dance when sasuke couldn't,we can argue sasuke wasn't fully healed but then again that proves itachi is at least hebi sasuke's lvl in speed who has himself shown to be superior than kakashi.DB says itachi is faster

There is someone who surprised bee with speed [

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got behind bee within timeframe of nagato's summon [

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was standing next to bee[

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] but escaped ST [

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blinded chamelion and king of hell [

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] before striking nagato who has both shared vision and was sensor

Dude dafuq are you even talking about? Barely any of that is actual movement speed which is what is being discussed here, and the ones that are have been addressed. Those don't prove what people are saying about his speed thus his speed is overrated.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao. All you people who think Itachi is going to defeat an unrestricted Tsunade/Sakura who have the firepower to obliterate Susanoo and this kind of range: [

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need to re-evaluate your understanding of the Manga.

"b-b-but Itachi so skilled"

This is NOT a Taijutsu fight. I repeat: This is NOT a Taijutsu fight. :lol So idk what you guys think throwing those arguments around will do. As I've said before his best speed feats are when he has Sharingan and the movement speed ones are not enough to overwhelm Sakura or Tsunade. People really think Itachi is going to run up to them and slice one of their heads off. Smh.

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Kidgamer says Sakura OR Tsunade solos Itachi with ease hahaha.

Lmao what a terrible post but I can't say I'm surprised. Just another Itachi fan overrating his abilities. I'll address this when you decide to explain to the class how these scans are incorporated into your argument.

 

[BLAZE]

Dude dafuq are you even talking about? Barely any of that is actual movement speed which is what is being discussed here, and the ones that are have been addressed. Those don't prove what people are saying about his speed thus his speed is overrated.

was talking about speed and reaction not movement speed.and yes i agree many times his speed gets overrated
but yeah he is around hebi sasuke;kakashi etc in terms of movement speed or do you think he is not

 

[KidGamer65]

was talking about speed and reaction not movement speed.and yes i agree many times his speed gets overrated
but yeah he is around hebi sasuke;kakashi etc in terms of movement speed or do you think he is not

Overall he's a good amount above Hebi Sasuke who is a good amount above Kakashi.

 

[BLAZE]

Overall he's a good amount above Hebi Sasuke who is a good amount above Kakashi.

yeah basically that.
Itachi had one of the best speed feats in manga when he was alive but later on many chars like raikage;bee;naruto have shown far superior speed than him.FTG users are on a different class alltogether

 

[Eng nawashi]

oh only one who is allowed to have speed feats is lawd kakashi.itachi sucks

Who mentioned kakashi .At least I don't give him feats that don't exist .or claim that he can blitze people he can't blitze .

guess what he couldn't follow his handsigns [

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Shunshin feat !!? Reaction feat !!? Nope

Guess what sasuke who was pressuring Diedara[who has 4.5 in speed same as sasuke and kakashi] with his speed couldn't pressure him

Lmfao .Diedara hadn't sharingan which is a huge reflexes boost .Sasuke has also shown the ability to pressure Itachi 's 3t crow clone much more than his speed pressured Diedara .

guess who fended of Killer bee's seven sword dance when sasuke couldn't,we can argue sasuke wasn't fully healed but then again that proves itachi is at least hebi sasuke's lvl in speed who has himself shown to be superior than kakashi.DB says itachi is faster

Itachi retreated the CQC against bee by jumping next to Nagato while Sasuke kept engaging him .and again this isn't a shunshin feat at all .not sure how this shows that Itachi's shunshin is as fast as Hebi Sasuke's shunshin who got more impressive feats and hype .

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Lol no .Shunshin doesn't create such a smoke buff .vanishing of shadow clone does .which means itachi who Nagato was leaning to was actually a clone .the real itachi tried to surprise them .it doesn't even make sense that Itachi'll shunshin up to the air when his opponent is right in front of him .

and dodged bee's strike while engaging with naruto [

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This one is impressive though it is mostly a sensing feat .

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Not exactly the timeframe of summoning as Naruto was shown to spell words before itachi appeared behind bee .it also doesn't equate to itachi blitzing bee since bee wasn't shown to pay an attention to itachi at this time .

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You have yet to prove that Itachi wasn't thrown away with ST .

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This isn't shunshin or reaction feat .it is shrukien jutsu feat .

Your post is a prime example of misinterpreting feats to make it look more impressive .I asked for shunshin and reaction feats yet you brought up all od Itachi's feats including shrukiens jutsu ,taijutsu ,hand signs feats to make Itachi's shunshin feats look better :lol .

 

[Mellanoma]

Lmao what a terrible post but I can't say I'm surprised. Just another Itachi fan overrating his abilities. I'll address this when you decide to explain to the class how these scans are incorporated into your argument.

I don't get paid to be as devoted to this as you are lol

You said he lacked speed/reflex feats so I showed some of him striking and evading.
KCM Naruto, Bee and DSM Kabuto are canonically faster than Tsunade/Sakura. Would Itachi win this heavily 1 sided fight? Probably not but I just posted feats. Tsunade and Sakura fighting styles are insanely wreckless. It wouldn't be as EASY as you claim it would be.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't get paid to be as devoted to this as you are lol

You said he lacked speed/reflex feats so I showed some of him striking and evading.
KCM Naruto, Bee and DSM Kabuto are canonically faster than Tsunade/Sakura. Would Itachi win this heavily 1 sided fight? Probably not but I just posted feats. Tsunade and Sakura fighting styles are insanely wreckless. It wouldn't be as EASY as you claim it would be.

No, I said he lacked movement speed feats. 1 of those is not a movement speed feat and the other is just 1 feat. Meaning he does lack them as I said. Then we have the fact that evading B has nothing to do w/ being able to blitz Sakura/Tsunade and cut their heads off with no reaction, which was the original argument.

-B
-Kabuto
-Naruto

All irrelevant for reasons explained by myself and others.

And yes, it's as easy, or even easier, than I claim if both of them are fighting against an Itachi w/ no Sharingan.

 

[Mellanoma]

No, I said he lacked movement speed feats. 1 of those is not a movement speed feat and the other is just 1 feat. Meaning he does lack them as I said. Then we have the fact that evading B has nothing to do w/ being able to blitz Sakura/Tsunade and cut their heads off with no reaction, which was the original argument.

And yes, it's as easy, or even easier, than I claim if both of them are fighting against an Itachi w/ no Sharingan.

lol what? I thought BASE Itachi was 3T?

If not Itachi is canonically blind with no Sharingan so ofcourse he loses

The manga image shows him evading Bee then shunshinning away BEFORE KCM Naruto or Bee could properly re position themselves. Thats the part that I was posting not just Bee attacking. Naruto and Bee are literally in the same position by the time Itachi was 15m away

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That is an impressive speed feat against those two. Follow the red lines they are in the same exact spot

 

[KidGamer65]

lol what? I thought BASE Itachi was 3T?

If not Itachi is canonically blind with no Sharingan so ofcourse he loses

The manga image shows him evading Bee then shunshinning away BEFORE KCM Naruto or Bee could properly re position themselves. Thats the part that I was posting not just Bee attacking. Naruto and Bee are literally in the same position by the time Itachi was 15m away

This is Itachi w/ no Sharingan. Said multiple times throughout this thread.

That argument was addressed too. Not only is it not shown when B and Naruto repositioned themselves, Itachi was evading at full speed, they were not at full speed. Naruto at his top speed is far beyond Itachi in speed.

 

[MomoSaka]

Yeahhh.....

No. :lol

When people take the jokes seriously:lol....
Seriously tho....Right now....He IS....stronger than them....( Hebi Sasuke, Itachi, Kakashi )IMO
....Btw....did you saw KH3 trailer...?

 

[JStar King]

Itachi wins. Solos Tsunade with Tsukiyomi and uses Tosuka on Sakura.

 

[BLAZE]

lol what? I thought BASE Itachi was 3T?

if he had sharingan op wouldn't have mentioned finger genjutsu.sharingan genjutsu would be far more potent along with the fact extremely hard to break.

 

[MomoSaka]

Itachi wins. Solos Tsunade with Tsukiyomi and uses Tosuka on Sakura.

BASE ITACHI.....can use ms..?kun:
Anyways.....Itachi's genjutsu is useless when they release their seals...:lol

 

[Hakke]

Yeah and what he does with kunai stabs her and then die lmao or stabs her twice then dies maybe thrice maybe ten times
he does not even know they have regeneration
yeah
now with intel still has nothing to put her down.

why would he stab her if he has intel? he can just cut her head off

also if he stabbed her, he can see that she has regeneration then cut her head off

kunai will have even lesser momentum than it lol :lol

not if it was moving at very high velocity.

also, one thing that you didn't count and that is the sharpness. the Magatama was not that sharp, that's why it didn't make it through her body. meanwhile, we saw her getting stabbed by Kusanagi.

is Kusanagi more powerful than Magatama? No, but it's sharper. give Itachi a sword or anything sharp enough and he behead her

What feats none.
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Itachi is faster than Oro and the distance is just 5 METERS. can't he blitz her with ShunShin. No? okay, in CQC he still beat her. no chance in hell either of them will be able to land a direct strike on him

and even if he can't blitz her, he can just come close to her fast and prevent her from punching the ground

Lmao its not.its canonical that asuma used wind enhaced blade to slice off his head

Irrelevant because we are talking about Byakuguo users and not Hidan

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Anyone who think itachi wins is retarded